Thursday, December 20, 2012

Julian Leyzaola: "There is No Safe Place in Mexico For Me"

Borderland Beat

He Will Leave Mexico in October When He Retires

 
 
Juárez police Chief Julian Leyzaola -- a career law-enforcement officer specially chosen to reduce the once-uncontrolled violence that tarnished the image of this city -- is prepared to leave the country once his dangerous assignment ends in October.

"There is no safe place in Mexico for me," said Leyzaola, who has worked in law enforcement in the military for 37 years. "Mexico is prohibited for me."

During a lengthy interview with the El Paso Times, Leyzaola, who came to Juárez from Tijuana, talked about his job in a place once considered one of the world's most dangerous cities.

After 20 months on the job, he feels satisfied because the number of homicides is declining. From March 2011, when he arrived, to November of this year, the number of homicides has declined every month. And 2012 is projected to finish with fewer than 800 homicides compared with 1,956 homicides in 2011.

The 54-year-old Leyzaola, a lieutenant colonel in the Mexican army, is credited with a remarkable reduction in crimes such as extortion, carjacking and kidnappings. The reduction was accomplished with a strategic plan that included the cleansing of the police department -- 800 officers have been dismissed in his term -- and regaining the neighborhoods that once were under control of criminal groups such as the Juárez and the Sinaloa drug cartels.

Though the city is making a slow turnaround, Leyzaola is not without critics.

In the past 20 months, he has been the target of two assassination attempts and accused of human-rights abuses. He said his job is to fight crime and in doing so, he has become "the bad guy of the movie."

Leyzaola's job will end Oct. 10 -- something he is looking forward to.



"You don't know how big the responsibility of sitting here is," he said. "I don't know how many people would like to be here, but when the time to give my resignation comes, it will be a very happy day for me."

Question (Q.)  It has been almost two years since you came here and the numbers show a clear reduction of crime in the city. How did the city achieve this?

Answer (A.)   It is clear for me that when you implement a program and strategy and you verify them meticulously, the results will be the ones that your were looking for. The security program that we used here was the same that I applied in Tijuana with very favorable results. I received Tijuana with more than 6,400 crimes per month and after a strategy of cleaning, training, equipment and awareness within the police force, we reduced the crime more than in half.

In Juárez, we started with a rigorous process to clean the police force. Since I came here, 800 police officers have been separated from the corporation for different reasons. Most of them have resigned, others were fired and many were indicted for corruption or other charges.

Q.  How did the strategy work in downtown?

A.   Downtown exemplifies what happened in the rest of the police districts. When we got here, we realized that two organizations were fighting for control, La Línea (Juárez drug cartel) and El Chapo's organization. La Línea was the most aggressive and violent group and they were financing their activities not just with the money obtained by selling drugs, but also with extortion, kidnappings and carjacking.
 

They were able to get between $480,000 and $640,000 weekly. At that time, police officers were banned from entering downtown if they were not working for or had an agreement with the organization.

By the end of March, we started patrolling downtown streets with elite groups and we started confronting criminals. In a second phase, we introduced officers on foot patrol and then we infiltrated their organization. In addition, all the officers that were previously assigned to downtown were moved to other areas.

There were around 70 officers for the area and just nine vehicles. We brought in 282 officers and 80 vehicles and provided them with high caliber weapons, cartridges, bulletproof vests and radios with encrypted frequency.

When I transferred the officers that were working for the criminal organizations in downtown, it left the criminals blind, and when we got the encrypted frequency, it left them deaf. That created a lot of uncertainty within the organization.

Q.   Do you feel that your strategy completely eliminated the operations of La Línea in downtown?

A.   I think that right now, La Línea, as a criminal organization, doesn't have a strong presence in Juárez, or if they have it, it is very weak.

Q.   What about El Chapo's cartel?

A.   El Chapo operates more in the south and southeast of the city. When we went to those areas, we had good results, too. We secured several of their houses, high-caliber weapons and drugs, especially marijuana.

Q.   But El Chapo still operates and has a strong presence in the city?

A.   El Chapo operates on a bigger scale. He doesn't go into retail and that makes it more difficult to detect him. He is more concerned about big loads of drugs going into the U.S., and his presence in the city is less visible because he is not in extortion or carjacking. To be more effective in combating him, we would need more intelligence capacity and other kinds of actions.

Q.   It is said that what really provoked the reduction of crime is that El Chapo won the war against La Línea. Is that true?

A.   I think that is an adventurous expression. First, because whoever says that should be involved in the criminal structures and must have details on what is going on inside. I can tell you that we have fought all the criminal groups with the same intensity. I don't care to which group they belong. We are combating delinquency in an integral way.

Q.   Human rights organizations argue that since you came here, the number of arrests skyrocketed. They talk about 60,000 arrests in the first six months of 2012. However, just 600 were indicted because there was not enough information to prosecute them. Your thoughts?

A.   We should not confuse administrative arrests with arrests for felonies. I'm aware that there was a moment when the administrative arrests skyrocketed, and it has to do with officers that were abusing their power. I have to recognize that I have a police force that needs to be watched all the time.

We had fired 800 officers that were not meeting the professional standards. And when I said that I'm talking not just about officers who were working with organized crime. I'm also talking about corrupt officers that were stealing people's money and belongings or were just arresting people for misdemeanors. Let me tell you that in August this year, we had 16,000 people arrested for misdemeanors, an average of 500 per day.

Q.   That is very recent. Is it still happening?

A.   Yes, and we had many complaints from citizens and human rights organizations. We had an average of five to seven complaints for arbitrary detentions. What did I do? I reviewed all the proceedings and I realized that the officers were abusing their power, and we started addressing the problem.

Q.   When you came here, you had 2,600 officers. Then you fired 800 and you have been training new officers at the police academy, right?

A.   We have graduated only 87 cadets.

Q.   So, most of your officers are still part of the police force that you inherited?

A.   Yes, I have 1,800 officers now. And just 87 are new. But we have to understand that not all the officers were bad or corrupt. As of today, the officers are more conscious about their role in society. They know that there is no going back to the past, when they could abuse their power without facing consequences. I think our police officers are aware that things have changed.
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Q.   Accusations of human rights abuses have followed you since your time in Tijuana. It draws attention every time that a person is arrested and he or she is presented to the media with visible signs of having been badly beaten. Human rights organizations said they have filled around 40 complaints for torture, excessive use of force and mistreatment by police officers.

A.   I agree with that. There was a time in which the detained people were presented badly beaten. I accept that and I don't try to justify them, but I have had to deal with two of the most corrupt police corporations in Mexico. Do you think that before I arrived in Tijuana nothing happened? Do you think the situation there was not worse before I arrived?
 What happened is that when I went there, I started applying internal proceedings to clean up the corporation, I indicted 23 superior commanders. É When I start breaking the links between police and criminal organizations, when I arrested hit men, delinquents, when I started doing my job, they started complaining. Why? Before, they (police and community) could not complain because they feared reprisals. Now, they can and I became the bad guy of the movie.

Q.   How do you feel about those accusations?

A.   They can't destroy the honor of a person without having evidence. Imagine my sons, my family. É They accused me because I'm the face of an institution, but they have never gotten my side. In Tijuana, where the complaints were more serious, they never gave me the right to refute. I already presented a complaint on the Inter-American Commission on Human Rights because of the way I have been attacked, but they have never called me either.

Q.   Do you consider yourself a heavy-handed police officer?

A.   If heavy-handed is to clean a police department, to eliminate corruption, yes. I have a heavy hand because any police corporation can't do its job while it has delinquents inside. And I'm going to tell you that there is not a single police force, not in El Paso, New York, Chicago or Paris, that can say it is totally clean. There is always something there and we, as the head of the corporation, have the obligation to be watching out because a badge and a pistol gives those officers a lot of power.

Q.   How do you feel about your personal security?

A.   I always keep the same level of security because even if the crime rates have declined, I'm still a target for criminals. You won't ever see me in a relaxed situation. I'm always alert.

Q.   You will end your job when the current administration finishes its term on Oct. 10. Is that enough time to conclude what you started?

A.   I brought a security plan and I presented it to the municipal presidency. Who operates the plan is not something that I should decide. I came here to work and I think I have done it well. If they (authorities) tell me that I should leave, I will be the first to congratulate myself because it is very difficult to work in a place like this, not just for the confrontations with delinquents.

Q.   What else makes it difficult?

A.   The confrontation with society because everybody wants changes, but nobody wants to change. That is the reality.

Q.   What frustrates you the most?

A.   It's difficult. Crime, at least in the two cities where I have been, is so rooted in society that criminals are a well-accepted part of it. Here in Juárez, I could tell you that 80 percent of families have somebody that is involved in crime.

Q.   Eighty percent?

A.   It is really rooted in society. Delinquents are so prosperous that they have their own language, religion, music. They have become urban heroes, with money, pretty women, vehicles, properties. They are role models and people admire them.


So when I try to combat them legally, I become the Antichrist because I'm fighting those delinquents. It is like when you are fighting a cancerous tumor that needs to be removed; it is going to be painful and your body will fight it.

Q.   Do you feel misunderstood by society?

A.   No, never. I just know that I do my job with responsibility and ethics. But many other people don't do that.


El Paso Times

96 comments:

  1. Welcome to my sofa, Senor!

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  2. Extrememly brave man..........Along the same lines as Zapata and Hidalgo........put nowhere in Mexico will he have safe harbor........sad treatment of a hero


    Reynosa

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  3. This man is a hero. He was the one who cleaned up Tijuana a few years ago, after he did his work in Tijuana, he was sent to Juarez. What a shame that a man who risked his life for a country, can't even live in peace in it.

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    1. Not a hero lol hes a criminal with a badge. Part of the whole plan to clean up for chapo

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    2. Finalmente sale este policia malviviente, este es el que no pudo contra el cartel de juarez, mexico no esta a salvo para ti por corrupto leyzaola y si te quedas aqui la linea te ba quebrar por proteger ala gente del chapo con tus policias marranos y corrupcion que dejaron a juaritos en un oyo

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    3. This guy is no hero, hes under chapos payroll

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    4. How do you know that?

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    5. Chapo's cleaner is too scared to stay in Mexico. He has earned lots of money from the Sinaloa Cartel to spend his retirement life as a multi millionaire in the USA....Run coward run.coward

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    6. Well shit then, sounds like chapo should be the new police chief cause looks like things got alot better in both TJ and Juarez, you idiots!! It didn't say things got worse, friggin' illiterate donkeys on here...

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  4. This guy is a puppet for chapo...he and his police force escort drugs intown and money out of town..all the new officers are people put there by chapo to watch over the force and keep things under his control and to eliminate any potential threats

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  5. What a shame he can't even live in his own country.
    A lot of people give him no credit"he works with chapo,he is no good"do his words sound like a man who works for anyone but the decent people of Mexico?
    He sounds fed up with Mexico,and can't wait to leave.
    Can any of us blame him,where would he be safe in the country he has served for so long?Sad indeed.

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  6. Bullshit. You can see aztecas downtown and all over the city like nothing. The aztecas still have more people in the ceresos than anybody else and on the outside. Yea everybody hates the aztecas but fall in the ceresos and well see if you don't pay them tax.

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  7. Wait for the hatters to talk shit....

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    1. Who the Mad Hatters, from Alice In Wonderland???

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  8. did he realy clean tijuana or was it the us and its aprehentions of the arellanos, and also help from rivals of the arellanos that wacked one of them in some town in mexico, credit is due but please, i lived in san diego and went to tijuana nemerous times, just like i go to matamoros now a days it was never as bad as the press made it seem, also if you mess, mingle, hang out, befriend, the cartel in any way you are bound to get double crossed even if you do everything by the book, GREED GREED GREED, is mans downfall, i guess this guy will end up in mcallen texas, or chula vista ca...fools free pass to citixenship poor me.....

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  9. @2:06,

    from thugs and thieves the shit will flow. They can't stand it when a person actually stands up to cartels. ...they cannot believe there are heroes in Mexico that are honorable. There is not proof of improprieties, what he was found "guilty" of is crossing the line when dealing with thugs and narcos. A little rough sometimes, or a lot rough sometimes? fine by me, just make sure they are what you think and not an innocent....

    Remember readers what I am saying thugs will sling the mud, but will never back it up, this is a man I wish we could clone for every city along the frontera

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    1. Since hes gotten to juarez i havent hardly heard anything about the city. What is going on there? Whats going on with the juarez cartel, its like they disappeared? Chivas i agree with you about this guy. He seems to get the job done. Of course everyone cant be happy and there's aways gonna be allegations and assumptions, but no proof or examples.

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    2. Chivis- This sounds like a truly honorable man, who has dedicated his life to his country. I am deeply saddened that such a heroic man has to leave his home country. We have plenty of room for this wonderful man and his family. And, Texas is close. Thanks for a moving tribute to this man. Happy holidays to you and yours. Texas blessed Grandma.

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  10. I hope he moves to the EU and becomes a US citizen, writes a book and collect millions.

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    1. Book? I want the movie on 3D.!!!

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  11. Chief Leyzaola has brass balls and integrity. He also has my eternal gratitude for showing the world that one man can make a difference. He has been criticized for his methods out of context. When you fight the devil you should not be criticized for twisting his ear, especially when it helps you to win the fight.

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    1. Lol you call brass balls putting the police to apprehend and kill all the people and familly related to people of la linea, this guys are murderers, thats why the were killing a cop a day, because leyzaola was working with sinaloa. people of juarez know, theyre stories alot of them in the diario de juarez or pm about people that bearly survived killings were there is even witnesses of leyzaola killing and torturing la linea members, news of people that have openly accussed leyzaola of murdering along with the police sicarios and have been murdered, its part of the horror of what cd juarez is. Theres even been mantas on this, it is overly know leyzaola is a corrupt cop that works with the mexicles and doble(chapos people) to subdue aztecas. Thats the truth, mexico is full of corruption, there is no way back

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    2. La Linea IS a criminal group right?? So fuck them, and if he was getting his hands dirty then that takes balls, not many police chiefs will do that.

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    3. So what if he was killing family members of La Lines,they deserve it(involved or not)their kids will probably grow up to be filthy scum also,it its ok.

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  12. He has to leave his own country,how sad.
    A decent man who served now can't wait to leave,because he will not be safe from his fellow Mexicans.How nice.
    Can't blame him.

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  13. by twicking an ear or two no harm no fowl, but to violate someones civil rights is totaly wrong, supose we did that here in the us just start pulling ears and throwing citizens in jail for nothing just because youe looked, dressed, cut your hair, half of california would be in jail, to include any other state............and you call this guy a hero....because chapo is dealing with bulk large quantities he is left alone hard to find,, his statement not mine

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    1. His statement was that chapo is sending his loads across the border , which means they arent operating obvious dope houses for everyone to see which makes em less detectable. Your statement is a prime example of how people twist anothers words and make them out to be bad guys

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    2. Brother I don't know if you've ever been to war but there are no civil rights in a war zone. You look suspicious then you're getting shut down.

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  14. God bless him

    ~~~el spaceio~~~

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  15. Great man IMO ..congrats chief !!!

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  16. He is only Alive temporary....The cartels will get him before October...Dead man walking.....He put a lot of criminals and innocent people in jail..He has many many many enemies..This dude is not clean either,check his off shore bank accounts..

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  17. I pray he lives to leave that hell hole.

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  18. If Chapo never invaded in the first place everything would of stayed calm,i have read here numerous times linea never extorted before the war, and only started doing so out of desperation.
    I really like to believe this guy is one of the good ones,but any ways he done good....he done very good for the peoples of Tijuana and Juarez, someone had to clean up the mess Chapo inflicted in these two city's...yes,fuck Chapo and CDS they will get there Dues.

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    1. Really? Wasn't Juarez the global capital of disappeared women? And wasn't that before Chapo?

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  19. .....HONOR!!! INTEGRITY!!! BRAVERY!!!! WHAT GOOD MORALS TO LIVE BY AND BE AN EXAMPLE, SO OTHERS CAN FOLLOW!!!!...

    .....THE RIGHT THING IS CHARACTERIZED BY SOME-ONE WITH ETERNAL STRENGTH AND MORALS, WHOSE STANCE WILL ALWAYS BE REMEMBERED AND STANDARDS TO LIVE BY!!!.....

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  20. Some of you people need to realize that this individual is a criminal with a badge dispite how the minstream media presented him for a few years in Juarez. I lived in Juarez, for two years of his duty as chief, I even saw him cruising through the streets of my neighborhood.

    This motherfucker paved the way for the GN to take over the northern sectros of Ciudad Juarez for GN, trust me it was the word on the street, this was the shit that his police force was spreading in the streets. GN at the time could not organize efficiently to take over the ports so that they could streamline the smuggling process kinda like they have done in TJ. La Linea and Aztecas just would not allow them to set up shop anywhere near the bridges. Do your research so that you can see all of the murders perpetrated close to the three main bridges and you may realize what I am refering to. Needless to say that GN never took over those all-important nodes that are the definition of smuggling in Juarez.

    Also research all of the complaints filed against Leyzaola and his police force for unlawful arrest. These motherfuckers literally pick people off the streets, consumers eating burritos and whatnot so they could make the 9:30 local news on channel 44. The deltas Leyzaolas personal vigilante unit, once did this to some hapless beings and they were found dead in south Juarez.

    The list goes on and on so Chivis please be more objective in your support of a fucking serial killer posing as an officer of the law.

    If all of you people can make inferences based on information provided you can easily see how it was impossible from the get go to supplant the Juarez Cartel form J-town. He mentioned that 80% of the families in Juarez have someone involved with crime. So you can see how it would be impossible for anyone to try to take over what locals have been doing for decades here without a problem. Before this Sinaloa invasion those involved with crime were kept in check by the Juarez cartel to keep the plaza quiet and anyone falling out of line was quickly dealt with. But when Chapo came in the scen he promised the world to all of Juarez Cartel's capos and those who took the bait are now in prison or are his enemies again after having realized that he had no intention of delivering on his promises. the result is a chaotic Juarez that will take years to calm down again despite of ANYTHING Leyzaola has accomplished, because he is yesterday's news and his "vigilante" police crews will be wiped out little by little like they have been by the Juarez cartels own vigilante crews LOL.

    Independent Juarez, keep the fuck out if you don't know the law of the land, better days await the Juarez Nation like it was before greedy fucks laid siege to our beautiful life. We from Juarez remember that it was never like this until Chapo tried to take over and ruined the social order by turning brother on brother with promises of making masters out of a few that would enslave an entire population. Before this everyone worked without a problem Mexicles alongside Aztekas, Marrufo alongside Rikin alonside Salgueiro alongside M10 alongside etc etc. and it will be like that again once the invaders are driven out for good.

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    1. Your words tell us all we need to know about the scumbag you are, and that you're happy with 80% of your fellow citizens working in crime. You are a cum rag at the bottom of a Juarez slaughterhouse dumpster...

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  21. Who cares if Chapo is paying him. Chapo doesnt kill innocent people. He's like Scarface. He wont harm those that are not in the drug business. The zetas on the other hand will kill you because you don't pay them rent from your local business. What a bunch of crap. I hope Chapo kills every zeta or other cartel member who extorts, kidnaps and tortures innocent business owners who are not involved in any criminal activity. ITs one thing to traffick drugs its another to terrorize innocent people.

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    1. You sir are dumb as door knob.. your favorite super hero Chapo is the biggest hypocrite out there.. hes people murder, rape and extort more than any cartel.. the difference is that no one reports on CDS.. before Chapo began the war in Mexico every cartel kept to themselves and made there money..so Fuck CDS and Chapo

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    2. Really like those Zetas who burned down that casino, that happened after the war started? Let me guess, Chapo made them do it...you idiot...

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  22. Sorry for the off topic but a source tells me la tuta was apprehended in sahuayo 2 weeks ago..

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    1. Mi gente me dijo lo mismo. My people down there told me the same thing and that the cops are keeping it a secret.

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  23. Ever seen a.post from somebody that actually lives in juarez that was happy chapo was there or involved in juarez? Nope...Real Juarenzez know the real situation...All cartels are bad but how can you people actually cheer for chapo if he started this mess.....

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  24. have to say ... looks like very cunning move my Chapo. move this guy from Tijuana after making that place quiet, then eliminate La Linea from the police force in Juarez. very clever.

    if i have done this man an injustice ... forgive me. but if this guy was truly an honest cop - don't you think his whole force would be in a major war in Juarez? Think about it - an honest cop sitting in a key city on one of the main Plaza's??

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  25. @8:21pm do some research on CDS dude,they not as nice as you think they are...your missing the point too,there was peace in Juarez before the CDS invasion which caused thousands too die....any way believe what you want,but do agree zetas are not nice creatures.

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  26. @7:26 PM...You wrote the true article. I use to go to Juarez 4 times a year for 3 or 4 days at a time from 94 to 2007. I knew a lot of people, many connected. I was not and had retired from trafficking 8 years before. Juarez was exactly as you say it was. As long as you stayed in the streets, out of the alleys, and out of the known neighborhoods with gangs, it was pretty safe. The people were friendly and fun loving and appreciated tourists. The hotel and restaurant service was like what you would get in Europe. The Juarez Cartel was very firm but you had to f*** up for them to do anything to you. Otherwise, they too were friendly and fun loving too. Just :mind your own business.

    You explained it perfectly as to what caused the cities crime, El Chapo's greed and hunger for power. What you left out was the support he got from a crooked President and his military that acted more criminal that any of the cartels. You would have to kill the entire city to uproot the Juarez Cartel and when you ask people connected who really has Juarez, they all say the Juarez Cartel of course. The only thing I can say that always bothered me was the serial killings of women. Their was always rumors that people connected were involved with some of them or that cops that were connected were involved in other. Both probably true, but I always knew that the Juarez Cartel could have stopped that with a simple demand but they never did it. It was the only thing that gave them a black eye to the public. Maybe it is simply, they do not view women the same as most of the rest of the world.

    Anyway, it is nice to see old school speak out here. Most of those who comment are law enforcement, law enforcement wanna be's, CDS groupies, or the Johnny comes latelys that thrive on every piece of crap the media writes not knowing the Mexican Government, and its military are more evil than the capos they are at war with.

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  27. Leyzaola's pattern is what Nieto seems to want to put into practice throughout Mexico.....It deffinately favors chapo and the Cdg because they are more into shipping truckloads into the US..than street sales......but I don't think anyone would say he is a saint.....Just the lessor of two evils...The Zeta's were organized originally to fight Chapo from taking Tamaulipas.....and the truth is the average Mexican does not care about truck loads of drugs going north to sell to the "pinche weros"..they just want the murders,extortion,and kidnaping to stop......

    reynosa

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  28. We need someone like u in Chicago. a police supwrintendent with balls and is not afraid to face the criminal element. every one in Chicago is rooted on crime as well, and they are the only ones complaining. I hope that you enjoy your retirement because for police officers like you and me, its a luxury that doesnt happen as often.

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    1. You mean mexico needs more corrupt police to pave the way for chapo the one that started this mess. Sometimes I think people here arent even capable of thought

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    2. 9:33 am. The brave man you just said was a freaking criminal cop, may not respond to your freaking ignorance but I will. Where do you freaking come from to trash someone you don't even know? One of my kids lives in Chicago and I have been there many times. EVERY POLICE OFFICER I HAVE THE PRIVILEGE TO MEET, IS A HERO TO ME. If I wasn't a lady I'd be even clearer in my thoughts about you piece of scum. Go to HELL DUDE. And. Thank you Chi-town officer for your service. God bless you. Thanks BB FOR LETTING ME VENT AGAIN.!!! Texas Grandma.

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  29. Mexico needs gun control laws. The guns are the problem, not the criminals. Pass some gun control laws and everything will be just fine.

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    1. Sarcasm at it s finest.. I applaud you maam..

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    2. No actually they do need them.. Then the citizens can defend themselves better than with those paid police men like leyzaola that kill without fear because the whole system is corrupt

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    3. There is a gun control law in Mexico. It's illegal to own guns in Mexico.

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  30. 4 times a year and know everything. truth is both opinon is corect. his practice is heavy hand to all he see as criminal but sometime they are not but his guys dont wait to know before beating and sometime killing. but we know he has helped more than others its much better not perfect but he has only little time so maybe it will be the most killings again in the place when he leaves.

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  31. Yes, yes, he was successful. Now please excuse him while he runs for his life.

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  32. so why leave if he is doing such a great job and he loves mexico why not stay and help the people of juarez, if you keep cleaning the place hence (clean) then the place will be safe for all of us whether you go for a five day stay or two day stay, alleyes or streets, dinning, get the picture........no poor me i am leaving o to a safer place like let me guess the U.S.A. by the way mexico does have gun control even though they are everywhere, on the other hand every household shuld be allowed to have a gun and let me see you try to take a son (teenager) from some gun wild woman not that easy......guns are the equalizer hence word peacemaker.......your thoughts

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    1. Hes not helping the people of juarez domeass hes killing people sons fathers of the real juarences because of dirty money

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  33. El Cartel de Juarez and CDS are just one in the same. GREEDY un-patriotach bastards, they will go down as destroying their own people for the good of los puto billetes. Instead of banning together to share the multi-billion dollar cake they have shed so much blood to only bring heat amongst themselves.
    Bola de ignorantes.

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  34. Wtf, let the chief kill whoever he wants .that town needed a beating like that..just be grateful that he drained a lot of the evil out of there..and pray that the next chief is even more ruthless .

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  35. chapo nothin . veitia kicked chapos out of tepic and ppl say hes zeta chapo cant control nothing

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  36. The reason leyzolyla wants to leave is cause hes tired of trying to try to take the juarez plaza for chapo, he knows its never gonna happen. and he cant stay in mexico cause he knows backstabbing chapo isnt gonna protect him, and he will probably end up getting decapitated on you tube

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    1. Haha yeah thats so true lol

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    2. Very true...After using him Chapo will get rid of him like a used toilet paper.

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  37. Hope he lasts till his retirement. Long 10 months ahead.

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  38. Anyways Zetas have nothing to do with this topic, its about police Chief Leyzaola,cleaning up Juarez of its original Cartel for Chapo Snitchaloa... and as Reynosa stated LOS ZETAS were created to stop Chapo Snitchaloa from invading CDG territory.
    So yeah Ruthless business man Chapo is,he blames everyone else for the violence...but he triggered it by his invasions.

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  39. @8:49am If Chapo had not of invaded CDG territory, Los Zetas would never of been created fool!!! and we wouldnt be in this mess right now....fool!!!!
    GET IT NOW....?????

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    1. It's clear that you don't "fool". Research before you comment !!

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  40. It is true about lezeyola. He works for Chapo. Why Do you think he went into TJ to help clean up the TJ Cartel becuase chapo was having a harD time anD the same goes for Juarez. They are having a harD time cuz the Aztecas are the ones fighting el Chapo so therefore here comes lezeyola to help clean up the Aztecas.

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    1. Not true. Chapo doesn't control shit in TJ. The AFO has complete control in TJ. Do some research bro

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  41. Let me clear one thing up for alot of you people who think you know shit,but are clearly in the dark about most things narco..CDs makes its money with drugs..they do extort and kidnap in a sense,but not what u think..they offer the higher ranking law enforcement silver or led..u take bribe or suffer consequences..they kidnap anyone who triea to steal from them,not innocents..they never extort street vendors..I know this for a fact..I lived that life for many years..I got out from a.maximun security prison in colorodo.im currently in montery nuevo Leon..zetas extort everyone..im doing my best to rid them one at a time..

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    1. 7:56pm.Wow. OUR SUPER MAX. REALLY WORKED??? So, who'd u snitch on to get such a light freaking sentence? Went in as what DRUG TRAFFICKER? MURDERER? We need to rethink letting people EVER GET OUT.Death penalty sounds about right. How many innocents have already died due to your CRAZY ASS? God bless Mexico from the EVIL PEOPLE LIKE YOU.

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  42. Steering off topic a bit, tell me Bordelamd Beat, WHAT HAS CHANGED FOR THE BETTER for Mexico for starters SINCE YOU OPENED YOUR DOORS?, TELL ME,

    VOZ MEX, bloggero

    Muchas gracias por su respuesta

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  43. Nah dude CDS cell got done for Extorting small mining company's and similar business's,but yeah looks like they are the lesser of the two evils (@7:56pm) sorry bud they do extort and kidnap and finally kill.

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  44. (@7:56pm)CDS's allies CDG extort and kidnap businesses too just as CDS,CDS may not to the same extent as other cartels(zetas) but history shows they have extorted businesses and probably still do until caught, pls dont call me a liar,do some research....the proof is out there.

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  45. I can't wait for the movie staring Juan Gabriel.

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  46. If that's the case that chapo's organisation doesn't use extortion it's not because of some moral impetus but because of a higher cash flow. If the cash flow of chapo would be choked off they would use every other means to get to money to finance their structure.

    Think about cartells as proto states. States need financing to keep their structure alive and for that they use taxes. If the money gets short they'll increase the taxes and broaden the tax base. And what are states? Organized violence.

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  47. 7:56p, between posting comments on blog sites on your mother's computer ,and cheerleading ,and hunting down zetas in your spare time.. I wonder? do you find any time for yourself ? Or is that the best you can come up with after your visit to Colorado ?

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  48. As an American you will never understand the Mexican mindset until you have lived their life.

    80 percent of the families in Juarez have family members involved in crime.It is engrained in them from a baby,you do whatever to protect the family. I did not say they are all bad,but they will never turn on a family member.....actually just the opposite..wonderful,talented,loving......but the culture teaches them to turn a blind eye..

    The masses have never know freedom and opportunity for their children as Americans have.So for survival they rely on a strong family unit....

    Leyzaola took a suicide mission to go to the most dangerous city in the world......even the federalies have tried to assassinate him...Nobody I know gave him more than two months to live. A true Hero

    Americans on here are screaming and cussin that he has done nothing about Chapo.........He has just been taking back the streets and reformin the police..........that is where the people live and die, kids have to go to school, parents have to work. businesses have to operate...the trash has to be hauled off........

    The Mexicans do not care about some drug lord shipping truck loads of drugs to the "pinche weros" in the US.

    As an old abuelo told me once the killing of a capo is like killing a cockroach "you kill one and a thousand show up at the funeral"

    I am not a cheerleader for any Cartel......but mexico has to solve their own problems in society........and this man Leyzaola is the only one I see that made any progress.........

    What about the drugs going across the border???
    That's the pinche weros problem in their society that WE AS AMERICANS need to solve...chow

    Reynosa

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    1. Idiot....idiota. Ooohhh chapo,Chapo,chapo, reforming police. I lived in mex.from 08to2010. Chapos ppl are no good raping,robbing,killing bastards. His cops too. They hide behind their media shield. Do not believe everything you read and hear in corridos. Oh yeah especially here on bb where chapo is GOD. Ramon ayala

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  49. "December 21, 2012 8:37 AM Anonymous said...
    so why leave if he is doing such a great job and he loves mexico why not stay and help the people of juarez, if you keep cleaning the place hence (clean) then the place will be safe for all of us"

    Answer: this is called attrition. Many seasoned police officers and army veterans know it too well.

    You wrote: "on the other hand every household shuld be allowed to have a gun and let me see you try to take a son (teenager) from some gun wild woman not that easy......guns are the equalizer hence word peacemaker.......your thoughts"

    My thoughts ? Well your recomendation is rather stupid. USA is saturated with guns and has one of the highest crime rates in the World.

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  50. "I got out from a.maximun security prison in colorodo"
    Well keep your head down and be cool brother,what do you think about this z shit.Are they losin their hold over their?Everywhere sayin they losin ground in Zacatecas and other places,,only the players know for sure?

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  51. @December 22, 2012 9:59 AM

    No it's not illegal. Just very hard to get permits.
    And with permit you cannot obtain bigger than .38 caliber handguns and some limited caliber hunting rifles.

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  52. 8:49 AM
    "pinche weros"
    I see that pissed you off as well.You may be married to a Mexican girl and live in Reynosa,but some of these Mexican guys are hateful motherfuckers.You must know it more than me,they got some fucked up ideas on the US,race,crime,and all that good shit.Good luck to you bro.

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  53. Yeah,like any of you know for sure what the fuck he got going with chapo?Some more of the factionalism and city shit goin on.Live in Juarez,hate Sinaloa.Sinaloa hate Juarez,live in Tijuana,hate Sinaloa.Sinaloa hate Tijuana,every city all hate on each other,great isn't it,and on and on and,whatever.
    Represent to the fullest yall,,,,whatever.

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  54. Yes,I was in Florence Colorado.never snitched on anyone,did my time and got deported..the zetas do seem to be getting weaker,but not here in monterey.I see alot of people yapping like they know shit,when they dont have a clue.I seen alot of crazy people there in super max.the southern California Mexican mafia was just as dangerous as any cartel..

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  55. Dude,why would you say you never snitched on anyone?...ive done 3yrs in a medium and 2yrs in a max, 5yrs altogether,i just find it strange....anyway good luck in life.

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  56. December 22, 2012 9:52 PM
    "Yes,I was in Florence Colorado.never snitched on anyone,did my time and got deported"
    Sorry about all that shit man,did you get any visits at all,or didn't you give a fuck?As bad as it gets out here you got some options,in there you got shit,except the stress of money an shit.Fuckin deported after that shit.Brother,Bat Marquez,Eme is there aint he?Man,one of Eme was getting out after 15 in 2010 and then got cracked for another murder,and his trial dont start till 2013.Is it wonder you wanna start killin people?
    Shit man,how come you end up in that yard?Watch your ass brother,do what you gotta do,but be cool about it?

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  57. To dec 22, 6:27.......please don't judge all Mexicans by comments here on BB......Most all of Mx refers to Juarez as the "basura" of Mx......the trash....Most have no idea of the American's mentality or the generosity Americans
    have showed to them and the world.....Just as we cannot fanthom their hardships that has shaped their mentality.

    I can and do argue both sides of the fence..I am totally against illegal immigration and yet have felt the pain and frustration of trying to immigrate my family legally....I would like the military on the border, not to shoot illegals, but to stop the cartels who control the corridor now....

    If the violence is not stopped at what time do we quit calling them illegals and admit the fact
    that a lot are in fact refugees fleeing for their lives......

    The USA was founded on people seeking freedom for their familys......Mexico has throughout history been conquered, invaded, and ruled by
    people only wanting to plunder it for its riches.....

    That still is the prevailing mentality today..
    It has often been said "Mexico so close to the USA, but so far from GOD"

    reynosa

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  58. reynosa
    No brother,i,m not that naive.I have heard one of the mods here(chivis)say exactly the same thing"don't judge all Mexicans by comments here on BB"i wouldn't do that.I have never used racism on here,and one of the names that gets used against Mexicans is horrible i hate it.Sometimes you get pissed off getting called"whiteboy,w-man,gringo"as though its nothing.I think most US would love to see Mexico safe and well,but somehow we are not believed?Its madness,this animosity that is out of rationality?Anyway brother,i hope you and your family get sorted out to go where you want when you want,seriously.

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  59. I had said I never snitched because some wise guy asked who I snitched on to get out..I ended up in Florence because I was allegedly a shot caller in my prior yard in Mississippi.and because of the ties to CDS..I do recall a guy named bat there from out in Los Angeles there..

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  60. And as for if I ever got any visits,only one while I was waiting to get sentenced.3 agents from the DEA who said that they would pay well and get me a reduced sentenced to work with them..I told them to talk to some of my codefendants,cause Im part of the 10% of people who really believe in keeping it solid..

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  61. 2:18 PM
    How you doin now man,not to bad or what?At least you kept your mouth shut and now don't have to watch your back,have you got the smell out your nose?
    Man,fuck has people gotta try and be smart ass for?
    Lot of people done this and that on here,its a never ending paper chase for millions of people.Do you get to go swimming and all that good shit?Gotta beat bein in jug any-day,anything beats that,
    ey send me some air fare.
    Nah,catch a cool breeze wit luck on it man.

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  62. @2:18pm Cheers dude,as you can see i dont read the hater's comments is why i ddnt notice that, sounds like you done way more time than my 5yrs.
    Im so happy now,i work a legit job...i never have to watch my back ever again,its always good to leave that shitty criminal life,easy money just aint ever that easy.

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  63. @5:50pm is that it? is that all you have to offer, some half ass come back like that? c'mon dude prove me wrong,give me some info for me to think otherwise......

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