Friday, November 2, 2012

Nearly 60,000 Drug War Deaths in Mexico Under Calderon

Borderland Beat

According to Monterrey's Milenio daily, organized crime-related violence has claimed 57,449 lives in Mexico during the six-year presidency of Felipe Calderon, including 10,485 so far this year

Organized crime-related violence has claimed 57,449 lives in Mexico during the presidency of Felipe Calderon, whose six-year term ends on Dec. 1, according to a tally published Thursday by the Milenio daily.

Based on its own calculations, the Monterrey-based newspaper also put the number of drug war-related homicides thus far in 2012 at 10,485 and said 888 people were killed in October, the second-lowest monthly total this year.

Seven of Mexico’s 32 federal entities accounted for 72 percent of the homicides last month, according to Milenio. In October, the country’s most violent state was Guerrero with 145 murders, followed by Chihuahua with 139, Sinaloa with 94 and Nuevo Leon and Jalisco with 68 each.

The states that saw the biggest drop in homicides last month relative to September were Michoacan, Baja California and San Luis Potosi, in that order.

The last time the government updated the country’s drug war death toll was on Jan. 11, when it said 47,515 people had been killed in organized crime-related violence between Dec. 1, 2006, and Sept. 30, 2011.

In August, the Movement for Peace with Justice and Dignity, which poet-turned-peace activist Javier Sicilia founded after his son was murdered by suspected drug-gang members, put the death toll from Mexico’s drug war at roughly 70,000.

Calderon, of the conservative National Action Party, or PAN, militarized the struggle against Mexico’s heavily armed, well-funded drug mobs shortly after taking office in December 2006, deploying tens of thousands of troops across the country.

The strategy has led to headline-grabbing killings or captures of 25 of the country’s 37 most-wanted criminal leaders – including Los Zetas cartel leader Heriberto Lazcano, killed in a shootout with marines on Oct. 7 – but the violence has continued unabated.

Calderon will be succeeded in a month by Enrique Peña Nieto of the Institutional Revolutionary Party, or PRI, which will return to power after a 12-year hiatus.

Peña Nieto, who has vowed to bring down the violence during his six-year term, says he will keep the army on the streets in Mexico’s most insecure areas while bolstering the Federal Police’s capacity to fight crime.

The president-elect has said he will not seek accords or truces with drug gangs, as the PRI is widely suspected of doing in the past.

Calderon suggested in an interview with The New York Times in October 2011 that members of the PRI, which ruled Mexico uninterruptedly for 71 years, would be susceptible to making deals with organized crime the party regained power.

Source: EFE

49 comments:

  1. Hey at least noone innocent has died..

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  2. Yeah, and George W. Bush didn't set the US back 20 years...but as they say sometimes it has to get worse before it gets better. I believe in Mexico....

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    1. Mexican government is VERY powerful, they allow drug lords to operate all this fighting is disturbing peace and will soon end Mexico could get El Chapo within 5-6 hours if he made a move against the wrong political figure. And it would only take that long because of having to mobilize a force and travel. Narcos are very powerful but Mexico is far stronger. The reason they let it slide is because if they shut em down too many people would have to die too many would be out of a legitament job like growing opium pot etc. not sicarios, they're only human targets for the real workers and logistic men. Just look at how powerful the military is when only 30 men from the special tasks created such an unstoppable force in Los zetas. The narcos don't need to die its the sicarios out of hand and peace needs to return. Anyone agree??

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  3. and so what if he does make deals with the cartels as Calderon suggests in an interview....just as long as the death count stops rising.

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  4. The Mexican government cannot count electoral votes correctly and they sure as hell can't count dead bodies . I believe the death toll , conservatively , would be between 125,000 to 180,000 dead .

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    1. I agree with you n plus the thousands that have been reported missing

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    2. And tens of thousands in the mountain sides and jungles(forests)

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    3. Analitics in mexico say the number maybe really be 200,000 to 300,000. I dont understand why they keep using the 60,000 mark. Theyve been saying that number for years

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    4. I totaly agree with you since the past 2 yrs they been saying its 50,000.. But they are full off shit what they probaly mean is 50,000 every year..

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  5. Ok, so now that we know the numbers... what's the analysis?

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  6. "The president-elect has said he will not seek accords or truces with drug gangs, as the PRI is widely suspected of doing in the past."

    So, what if they seek from him? Maybe everything is already set up so there is no more to "seek".

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  7. Don't blame Calderon blame the drug cartel.

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  8. 60K.. that's all? Peanuts... let us know when it reaches 250K + Thanks

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    1. Your a sick bastard!! 60,000 dead is peanuts!?! I hope you never lose someone you love truly otherwise you'll have a much different view. 60,000 is an entire city of people dead! That's peanuts?? How disrespectful to the mourning parents and children of the countless innocents. I hope you're being sarcastic for your own humanity

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    2. I think anonymous 10:02PM is being sarcastic towards the Mexican government under Calderon's rule.

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  9. 98% of any innocent bystanders or poor hard working mexicans outside the drug business killed were kidnapped, tortured and killed by zetas. Which is why every hates them. Chapo said hes working to clear the streets of zeta scum. So at this point im pulling for him. I can stand a trafficker but kidnapping innocent people is f'd up.

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    1. well go get u r Ak 47 and go fight for him. he is not Robin hood, he invaded other territories, half of the dead are on him.

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    2. @10:17 While I tend to be more sympathetic to the CDS than the Zetas as well, it is important to recognize that all of the large DTO's use unspeakable violence to further their reapective agendas. The Zetas may have raised the bar on violence, but they would all kill and mutilate you if it was conducive to sending a message to a rival. The problem is really born from the the laws in both the U.S and Mex regarding drugs. Prohibition breeds crime, so we all have to pick a horse in this race. The border region would be safer if an older established DTO had control in union with other traffickers. We have to sleep with a demon due to prohibition, the CDS has the prettiest face.
      - El Blanco Guy

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    3. 90% ? where did you get 90% from? All narcos are pieces of shit; innocents always get killed in legitimate warfare, I can only imagine when its bullshit narco urban warfare mexico has going on.. but 90%?

      Heres something thats not some bullshit from people I know are in the know:

      Guy gets extracred from his vehicle travelling in SLP by masked armed motherfuckers claiming to be Zs. Guy and his family are told to walk.

      Hours later, guy walking with his family along la 57 on foot is approched by more armed masked men. He is told to enter a vehicle leaving his family. He is asked if he was robbed of his vehicle, taken to a place where several dead bodies and vehicles gathered, and given his vehicle back. He is told "we are zetas, and we don't rob people"

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    4. Root for who you want, they are all scum. Meant to add that to my last comment; pushed publish before I intended....

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  10. Hey it already is in the hundred thousands 60,000 thats an understatement pena nieto going to keep the corruption gng nothings gng to change until you wipe out z40 and his henchman and return to the days of old where territory was divided for drug smuggling.

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  11. I hope it's 60,000 that is an immense number of human beings. There has to be men dedicated to disposing bodies. That is an entire city of people. 60,000 does sound not as significant as presumed, but I don't think people realized how many people that is. So much progress robbed from Mexico so many minds not given a chance, so sad

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  12. @11:21pm Yeah and who broke the rule of the divided territory's...???....??...?.ANS:CHAPO GUZMAN.

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  13. @10:17pm Hahahahaha...they just proved it as fact that Chapo's henchmen kidnap and extort innocents too,just a couple articles ago dude,who's nuts you gonna hang off now?

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  14. Buggs . Your numbers confuse me. You stated that "the country’s most violent state was Guerrero with 145 murders. Are you refering to the criminals that shot it out with the government and died murders also ? I dont doubt some government officials may murder some in the fray but to avoid confusion these should be tallied some other way.
    Are the deaths of crimminals in these shootouts counted in the nearly 60,000 killed in this drug war?
    If so the numbers will have to go up or Mexico will fall.
    These crimminal will not reform . Drugs become legal and they will find another and most likely it will be innocent victums. Send them to hell where they belong.

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  15. Disconcerting... If they admit to 60,000, that means there is probably three or four times the number being declared. Mexico has an interest in down playing the war. Tourism is a major industry and many areas in Mexico are not getting the dollars they used to.
    -El Blanco Guy

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  16. Easily 300K...sadly but many people are buried in clandestine graves that years from now will be excavated.... When one person dies it's a tragedy but when it's 300k is just a number...can't wait until MEXICO is safe one again
    White Lobster MEX

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  17. Bear in mind most of those dead are lowlife narco's.

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  18. Think all of Vietnam but its quadruple or better. Worshiping Jesus not saint murder the devil would be a good start.

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    1. Saint murder? Vietnam? Damn. Don't even know how to begin...

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  19. The new government should tax the cartels,set Rules on keeping innocents out of cartel business....and kill Chapo!!!

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  20. Nah, Mexico dont need the death penalty, we will just allow them to kill each other until no one is left... Duuuuhhhhh... Great job Mexico! (NOT!)

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  21. "Based on its own calculations" Ha, ha, ooh that does sound official. Hog wash. If the number is so low there is hardly a reason for border land beat to put forth tripe like above. A major happening of war and crime and obscene wealth for a few and staggering poverty has come together in a corruption melt down. It will be studied for years.

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  22. omg Mexican gov should be ashamed of themselves for lying to their country. Do they mention the other 100,000 people that have gone 'missing'? I think it's fair to assume they are dead. Country of liars and cowards.

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    1. The government is not the country, you stupid sack of shit..

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  23. The us of a has political figures that lie to the citizens of that country all day long. Does that make the us cowards too. Dumb ignorant peace of shit!!!

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  24. I doubt americans would allow animals to over run their cites and slaughter their families. Like they do at the border, they'd band together and kill these fuckers. So yes, I can see why he is calling mexicans cowards.

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  25. The best answer to all this infierno
    Let the cartells work jst like senor de los cielos intented when he was alive.
    no violencia pagar la deuda externa con u.s. Y no consumo de drogas para menores.that senoron was the real deal helpd ppl no violense everything good..
    TODO PARA UN MEXICO MEJOR

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  26. Tax the cartel and set rules !!!??? Come on now ..... Will you enforce the new rules and be the tax collector ?
    Oh well maybe you can figure a way they can feel all warm and fuzzy instead of violent.

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  27. Its Obamabinladens fault, every single death. Romney will nuke em and be done with it. Go Mitt!

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    1. You are the reason Mitt won't win and the republican party is already going the way of the dinosaurs. Don't you understand, Mitt hates dumb poor people like you, he said you don't want to succeed...

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  28. This is a question for the administrator, have more people died because of the war on drugs or from the drugs themselves this year? can anyone answer that

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  29. I hope others weigh in but it is apx 40K in the US.. However it is not defined by RX vs street drugs. here is a link also ck the CDC

    http://www.drugwarfacts.org/cms/Causes_of_Death

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  30. no news or thoughts on the zetas push into reynosa and matamoros? city came to screeching stop with bloqueos and shootouts throughout the city...

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  31. It sounds crazy but that well be the best solution to all this.cuz even if they catch chapo,zambada and the all the leaders they gona have some one taking there place the next day.

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  32. @November 4, 2012 7:58 AM look at you talking trash behind a computer how sad of you i bet you wouldn't be all tought talk if you said that in public its time to move out of the basement lol.

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  33. @1:57pm i think an apology wont go astray.

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  34. It's amazing what gets through moderation, and yes, good thing every innocent person is bullet proof sweetness and light with a pure family and pure genetic line so that their goodness will continue and overtake the world as the lower beings kill themselves off because their involvement and death is intrinsic to their character. Thank goodness, too, to think that their gory demises would be inevitable no matter the context, because such slime humans spontaneously explode into bullet-riddled corpses even without a drug war, and luckily, because the good people are so good and so pure and beyond this humanity that this never has any impact on their goodness, views, and resources. Let's keep this drug war going, so that science never has to try and explain the phenomena of bullets spawning inside these inhuman corpses at random.
    Wait a minute.
    That's ignorant and delusional.

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  35. ALL drug cartels are pieces of maggot shit! Drop a damn bomb on their asses!! Yes, it is lies..the # of reported deaths, it's that many on youtube videos getting decapitated!! And these govt fools think that everyone should just run down to Mexico and soak up all the fun in the sun, NOT!! You'll be "soak'en up" something alright but it wont be the fun or the sun, especially if you're American or Canadian...or white!!

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