Reporting on the Mexican Cartel Drug War

Mexico: Rules of Game Have Changed

Thursday, November 8, 2012 |

Borderland Beat
 Mexico City --
The main adviser to Mexico's president-elect said Wednesday that votes legalizing recreational marijuana in the U.S. states of Washington and Colorado will force Mexico and the United States to rethink their efforts to halt marijuana smuggling across the border.
Luis Videgaray
Luis Videgaray, head of incoming President Enrique Peña Nieto's transition team, told Radio Formula that the Mexican administration taking power in three weeks remains opposed to drug legalization. But he said the votes in the two states complicate his country's commitment to quashing the growing and smuggling of a plant now seen by many as legal in part of the United States.
"These important modifications change somewhat the rules of the game in the relationship with the United States," Videgaray said. "I think that we have to carry out a review of our joint policies in regard to drug trafficking and security in general."
Videgaray has been central to the planning of a U.S. trip by Peña Nieto planned for Nov. 27. Videgaray said security would obviously be discussed during that trip, and he indicated that marijuana legalization would be an important topic.
"Obviously, we can't handle a product that is illegal in Mexico, trying to stop its transfer to the United States, when in the United States, at least in part of the United States, it now has a different status," Videgaray said. "I believe this obliges us to rethink the relationship in regards to security. ... This is an unforeseen element."
The current Mexican administration has been vehemently opposed to pro-marijuana measures in the United States, and President Felipe Calderon spoke out against a similar legalization move in California two years ago. Calderon and members of his Cabinet remained silent Wednesday on the U.S. votes.
In other Latin American countries, where cocaine production is dominant, some officials, ordinary citizens and independent experts said they expected little immediate change in U.S. drug policy, but expressed hope that the marijuana votes were the start of a softening in U.S. attitudes toward drug production.
Alejandro Hope, a former high-ranking official in Mexico's internal intelligence service who has studied the potential effects of legalization measures, said he was optimistic legalization in the two states would damage Mexican drug cartels.
Hope said a flourishing legal pot market in Colorado could reduce Mexican cartels' estimated annual income from roughly $6 billion to about $4.6 billion.

Source: SF Gate

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Anonymous said...

Mexico should legalize pot in response. Now they can hid the meth, coke, and heroin inside stinky bales of pot. Poor drug dogs won't know what is up.

Anonymous said...

If California and Texas ever legalize pot then the cartels really feel the loss.

Anonymous said...

Nicely done Havana and HI! This is good and hopefully no turning back for the world.. Move forward people and end the RACIST FALSE WAR ON DRUGS

Peace, Baggy

Anonymous said...

Mexican Cartels= Mexican Government by pot being legal in the states, it makes the cartels lose profits...

Anonymous said...

even in this article at the end its all about the money.

-tyrone-

Anonymous said...

Drugs are drugs. What's the difference between being strung out or being high and lazy?? In that type of thought shouldn't meth be legal since you end up washing your car and exercising lol our point of view is so screwed in the U.S

Anonymous said...

Sorry no one in Colorado or Washington is smoking Mexican dirt weed. It's all grown there and taxed there.

Bad news from Mexican cartels is Wa & Co sales have dried up

Anonymous said...

The biggest blow will be if cali n texas legalize mota.

Anonymous said...

just legalize all drugs anyhow the people are going to use them... its a personal choice like smoking tabbaco or drinking alcohol just my point of view... take the money out of the buisiness that will stop the killings all over the world...

Anonymous said...

@7:59 jajajaja- If Mexico had made that their response, it wouldn't have been any funnier and right on the money than your genius response ! Good one.

Anonymous said...

marijuana dispensaries would not be selling the swag that comes from mexico;not with the quality weed that's grown here in the states. it seems to me with nieto prieto opposed to pot legalization, he's actually protecting the interest of the cartels. can you say chapo?

Anonymous said...

He is jumping the gun. There are still very powerful monied entities against weed. Another problem is it doesn't fuck up and kill a lot of people the way booze and cigarettes do. Its ten times more efficient in making ethanol. The corn lobby shits bricks over this issue. The pill pushing pharmaceutical industry is dead set against competition to their racket. In the end powerful folk will tell the boot lickers they pay to elect what to do.

Anonymous said...

you say legalize drugs its a personal choice. Then when the junkie crime wave hits we Americans will be shooting our neighbors for breaking into our homes...Uncle Sam will replace the cartels...hmm i don't feel to good about all that. I hate to say it but I'd rather the violence be in my back yard then on my lawn and have to deal with little johnny from next door breaking into my house and having to decide whether to shoot my neighbors kid or let him go.

Anonymous said...

Yeah, and just wait until we get up to speed! Then the revenue will drop-GAME CHANGE! You called it, dude

Anonymous said...

This will not effect business at all. They will just begin to use Colorado as grow sites and HQ for mid levels that can leave MX safely. Every state will never be legal, AAAAND I'm smart enough to know that I would rather supply the MJ tax free and at a lower price an make something then to let the business go and lose all that possible income. Come on people if anyone makes lemonade out of lemons it's the cartels. The Gov isn't the only ones with advisors financial planners and plans for most possible outcomes. The time to stop this was in the 50s 60s latest they're far too dug in far too armed and far too complex. They are more powerful than Colombians because they're not stupid. They don't only survive on fear anymore

Anonymous said...

Legalize dah weed, Mexico! That'll get 'em! Let the government / w/o narcos regulate it and pass on profits to help long suffering people for once!

Anonymous said...

This actually could be the beginning of something a little different: 2 billion dollar difference maybe. This story is not as subtle as it seemed at first after I put down the bong and put on my thinking cap. Baggy was right, again! Well done Havana! Good eye this response went well with the pot story before asMexico's answer. Let's end this stupid,racist,drug war. What a waste of everything and everyone!

Anonymous said...

Cartels are making more than dirt weed, spoke to a cop who had busted a panga In our town and he confirmed it. It's not rocket science but I'm sure they use industial pesticides. Also you must know the cartels are all over NorCal and are already trying to take over. The Russians too, who I hear are the most dangerous.

Anonymous said...

It is obvious those 2 states will produce their own. I think we need to keep up the war on drugs until we get more of these crimminals whiped out. Otherwise the suffering of innocent people will be compounded. The will victumize for proffit. I seriously doubt demons will reform just because prohibition ends. They "live by the sword and will die by the sword.

Anonymous said...

Chivas, maybe you are aware of this already. There seems to be a common idea. http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/news/2012/11/08/uruguay-to-sell-marijuana-cigarettes-in-attempt-to-combat-black-market/

Anonymous said...

This is good and hopefully no turning back for the world.. Move forward people and end the the racism that i know so much about.I have been selfless in my fight against it and mow think i am making progress in my own small minded way.I have been very courageous in making my fight known and did it all by myself.I am not blowing someone elses trumpet,but i have done much good in this fight.
Peace, Baggy~B

Anonymous said...

Peace, Baggy ?
Then you say"Racist war on drugs"from Australia?
What a fuckin idiot?

Anonymous said...

Baggy the forum troll is back talkin bullshit again

Anonymous said...

The weed is already there and has been in colorado and wash for years. So are the mexicans. Nothing really changed. They are keep taking their drugs to chicago and the east coast where the laws are strictest and therefore profit is the highest. In colorado a good eigth costs $25 bucks. Why would anyone buy brick there anyway, ever in the last 5 years or longer? So nothing will change. People in colorado and wash will smoke their cheap quality weed and mexicans will keep shipping their ammonia soaked garbage to Chicago and the east coast cause those are the only people that don't know any better. The feds will keep trying to bust people cause otherwise they don't have jobs and their friends don't get fat taxpayer contracts. So inconclusion, americas drug policies are still retarded and I truely doubt people will stop chopping each others heads off in mexico because of what happened in the rockies.

Anonymous said...

Youve got to be dumb as fuck that legalizing weed in any or all states will stop the cartels. Think about it ruthless criminals that kill to protect lots of money think how bad it will get if you start to take away a cash flow from one source. They will step up violence to keep control over the smaller ammount they make, and have to step up harder into other crimes, this in no way will affect them. They have the money, the guns and the set structure they arent just gonna be like "oh shit they legalized weed, aww damn i guess we gotta go get real jobs now"

Havana said...

As Far as I'm concerned Baggy can say anything he wants whether it is from the forum, East Brooklyn or sitting in a bar watching the Hoodoo Gurus in Melbourne typing on his cell phone cause he usually isn't far off the mark. I think that is what makes you mad. One thing is always prints his name...

Anonymous said...

What a bunch of SUCKERS We Can Be -- at times.

This IS 'a PLOY', and this legalizing Mariguana 'TALK' will SOON End, y.o.u. ALL Will See.

Trust Me!

Anonymous said...

As Far as I'm concerned,blah,blah,balh

Anonymous said...

Exacly! im from washington and now live in laredo and my friends up north are keepin me posted on their cartel friends that are gonna lose big money cause the legalization of marijuana, never dirt weed in washington :)

Anonymous said...

Americans can grow some good buds unlike that shwag dirt weed from mexico, if mexico up the anty and grew better they could definatly make a great profit here but the stink would alert the dogs more

Anonymous said...

Tylenol is drug so the "drugs are drugs" belief is naive at best if not simple minded. The reality is legalizing marijuana will force cartels to produce and distribute higher quantities of more harmful drugs like heroin, meth, and cocaine to make up for the lost sales of marijuana. That or they'll ramp up the kidnapping, extortion, prostitution and human trafficking aspects of their business.

Anonymous said...

as far as legalizing border states, id bet on new mex and cali, texas and az. are much too conservative and idiotic

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