Saturday, October 27, 2012

With Narco Tanks, and RPG7s, Radio Towers: Should They Still Be Labeled Drug Traffickers?

Borderland Beat

Terrorists?
The term “Drug” Traffickers has become an incongruity.  With war like weaponry, 300 foot communication  towers, armored narco tanks,  holding the media, politicians and society entrapped by terror, isn’t it time the term be changed to Narco-Terrorists?  True is the fact  there is not a hard definition or legal definition of the word terrorist.  Also true,  the term is traditionally used to describe acts that cause terror in order to  overthrow and run the government,  or impose a religion or ideology by acts of terror. But I offer that what organized criminal groups has imposed on the United States of Mexico is unequivocally terrorism.
 When Dr. Robert Bunker (Small Wars) tells me this week “Pretty sad when RPGs are now so common” (in Mexico),  I say it is time we call these groups that have a large part of the nation controlled by terror, those who kidnap, extort, behead (then display), explode buildings, vehicles,   and terrorize a society…TERRORISTS.  There!  That is what they are, plain and complex, Narco-Terrorists. …Paz, Chivis
On guard as a relative of El Lazca is exhumed for DNA sampling
Ioan Grillo/Mexico City
 
When a Mexican SWAT team stopped a stolen Cadillac van in the border city of Piedras Negras, it was not a surprise when they were greeted by a tirade of bullets as the criminals blasted and ran. But after they kicked open the trunk, the officers realized they could have been victims of more catastrophic firepower. The gunmen had been in possession of an arsenal of weapons that included three Soviet-made antitank rockets complete with an RPG-7 shoulder-fired launcher. If the criminals had got a rocket off, they could easily have blown the SWAT vehicle to pieces. RPG-7s can also take out helicopters and were used in the Black Hawk Down episode in Somalia in 1993.
These are those found in Escalade SUV
The rockets, found on Saturday, are part of an increasingly destructive array of weaponry wielded by Mexican drug cartels, like the feared Zetas, in reaction to attacks on them by police and soldiers. While security forces have taken down several key cartel bosses this year, gunmen have struck back, setting off five car bombs, hundreds of fragmentation grenades and several shoulder-fired rockets. Soldiers even seized one homemade three-ton tank with a revolving gun turret. When Mexican marines on Oct. 7 claimed to have killed Zetas leader Heriberto Lazcano, he was also alleged to be found with an RPG-7. (Lazcano’s corpse was stolen from the morgue, and the Zetas are now believed to be led by his No. 2, Miguel Treviño.)
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The shoulder-fired rockets cause particular worry because of their range and explosive power. Mexican dignitaries often move in helicopters with the army flying Black Hawks supplied by the U.S. under the Mérida Initiative. “The RPG-7 is a weapon that causes incredible devastation from Iraq to Afghanistan,” says Rachel Stohl, an expert on arms proliferation at the Stimson Center in Washington. “When they fall into the hands of criminal groups, it changes the dynamics and escalates the conflict. Instead of just a gunfight on a street, you have military firepower.”
 
Combatants normally use RPG-7 rockets to target nearby vehicles, but they can reach up to 3,000 ft. (900 m) and are sometimes wielded as a form of artillery, scattering shrapnel at anyone close by. Those fearing spillover were quick to note that gunmen in Piedras Negras could potentially fire a rocket over the Rio Grande into the neighboring U.S. city of Eagle Pass. There have been sporadic gunfights across the river over the years, with gunmen recently firing at U.S. Border Patrol agents near the Texas town of Los Ebanos. (More often, Mexicans have been the victims, like when Border Patrol agents shot dead a 16-year-old boy in Sonora state this month.)
The gun trade has been a long-running bone of contention over the Rio Grande, with Mexico complaining that most of the firearms used by cartel assassins are purchased from U.S. stores. Of almost 100,000 guns seized at Mexican crime scenes since 2007, 68% have been traced to the U.S. The U.S. gun lobby argues that heavier weapons such as the Soviet rockets and fragmentation grenades come from the other direction, smuggled from Central America. Thousands of RPG-7s were used by all sides in the region’s Cold War conflicts in the 1980s. Since then, gangs have stolen many from lingering stockpiles in Nicaragua, El Salvador and Honduras to sell them on the black market. The Honduran government reports that it lost 22 RPG-7s and several rockets in a single 2010 theft. On a visit to Honduras earlier this year, a senior police officer said he had intelligence of Zeta operatives going to the capital, Tegucigalpa, to buy hardware.
When groups like the Zetas wield rockets and tanks, some pundits question whether they should continue to be labeled as drug traffickers — or need a more martial description. The cartel was founded in 1998 by 14 Mexican army defectors, and they carried their battle tactics into the crime world. “The Zetas are a criminal paramilitary organization that is spreading through Mexico and Central America like the bubonic plague,” says Mike Vigil, former head of international operations for the Drug Enforcement Administration.
The Zetas have used their firepower to make their stronghold in northeast Mexico, by the Rio Grande Valley, the country’s most violent corner. While other regions, like the area around Ciudad Juárez, have seen significant decreases in murders since 2010, Coahuila state, home to Piedras Negras, has witnessed its bloodiest year on record, with more than 640 gangland killings; neighboring Nuevo León has recorded over 1,000 such deaths since January. In total, almost 60,000 people have fallen in drug-related violence since President Felipe Calderón took power in 2006 and declared a military offensive on cartels. In the same period, 25 of Mexico’s 37 most wanted cartel bosses have been killed or arrested.
The buildup of cartel weaponry could also be a problem for incoming President Enrique Peña Nieto when he takes office in December. Peña Nieto, who returns the Institutional Revolutionary Party, or PRI, to power after 12 years in the wilderness, has promised to halve the number of homicides in Mexico in his first year. While all applaud the target, Peña Nieto has given little concrete information about how he will achieve the goal. When Zeta squads roam the countryside with RPG-7s, some say Peña Nieto could be forced to continue a military line similar to Calderón’s. “There will probably be a change in rhetoric,” says political analyst Jorge Chabat, “but there is a little room for maneuver in tactics.”
Source: Time World, Milenio, Zocalo

73 comments:

  1. Worst thing to USA is that all of those weapons was not bought from there.

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    1. I knew there would be a jack off like you who HAD to bring the U.S. Into it somehow, yes it's fucked up that guns come south from the U.S. but this military grade RPG's and anti- aircraft DO NOT!! What happened to the term "Enimies of the State" if they don't want to label them Terrorist? These guys need to be field Executed not Captured! And despite your hate for the U.S. my friend Mexico IS getting it done, and I applaud the Mexican Military!!! @10:51. Chivis is right proof not accusations!

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    2. @12:42 He's not talking bad to or blamimg the U.S. @ 10:34 I definitely know what you mean. I'm sure not even B.B. knows the real deal of the Drug War. I do not expect some morons commenting back, its not even worth explaining the real situation. Just be patient and watch.

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    3. @10:47 Shut the fuck up seriously. There's to many possibilities in this world, with that being said i repeat, shut the fuck up. Thank you

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    4. Most heavy weapons were distributed around south and central America and the Caribbean by the united states military and intelligence agencies. This consists of American made weapons, hand grenades etc. But also soviet made assault weapons and likely RPGs. Yes, criminal organisations have been known to seek heavy weapons from abroad (FARC from belorussians in Hong Kong) but an abundance exists in their own backyard, thanks to the US habit of making decisions on behalf of others.

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  2. They are still getting their asses handed to them by the Mexican military. I'm sure it won't be long before someone posts "Terrorists" but that label has been ruined by the right in America, reduced to meaninglessness.

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  3. With Narco Tanks, and RPG7s, Radio Towers: Should They Still Be Labled Drug Traffickers

    Are you kidding me rpg's should only be on the practice range, unlicensed radio towers should be monitored and very expensive to own and Narco tanks should be considers act of terrorism and should be dealt with using extreme force

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  4. RPG's are outdated...WHY is the arsenal that Sinaloa Cartel have are NEVER reported...Sinaloa Cartel have arsenals such as M47 anti-tank weapons, AT-4 anti-tank missiles, shoulder-fired light anti-tank rockets, a variety of grenade launchers, M-60 machine guns and FIM-92 Stinger missiles.

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    1. RPG's are outdated? Are they no longer deadly? Ask the M1A2 Abrahms driver who had one penetrate through to the drivers seat in Iraq. Yes they are crude, but they will still blast almost any vehicle or aircraft that is within their range. Many terrorists failed to arm the fuse on the grenade prior to firing due to lack of training. One military dump truck passenger had one penetrate from behind, through the dump bed and lodge next to his feet in the floorboard but it didn't explode but he must have needed a change of clothes. LOL.

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    2. Ohh yea pendejo how would you know they have all that? U took pictures or wat dumbass if u dont know shyt dont open ur mouth idiot

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    3. If sinaloa has those things, they are wasting away, buried underground somewhere. anyone who is trained to use them was killed months ago. you gonna put a stinger in the hands of some young sicario and expect him to hit something? it'd be more effective to give them a goat horn and a bag of coke. trust me the CDS is better at this then you are, they've already thought this thru, and that's why you don't see them using heavy weapondry. they are more trouble than they are worth. think about all the sicario videos where they are holding a Barrett .50 cal. now think of all the times you've heard of a rival capo getting his head blown off by a sniper 1000 yards away. never. because the guys doing the killing don't know how to properly implement these weapons. they are all for show....like a gold plated AK

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    4. Los rifles de calibre 50 no son "para mostrar" son para disparar a través de vehículos de prueba de bala pendejo. ¿crees que no estamos capacitados ¿ Crees que teníamos miedos porque no somos CAPACES!? Chinga su MADRE CULERO!!! Pinche anímal! TODOS el mundo sabe que la mafia tiene un GRAN PODÉR!!!!
      El Teniente
      Controlador de Mexíco
      PENDEJO!!!! We don't know how to use!!! JAJAAAA!!!! Que payaso o que JAAAAJA

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  5. @ 10:51AM

    You are just the person I hoped would read this. Dr. Bunker asked about such weapons when this story came out one of the publications had a photo of hawk anti aircraft missiles yet we could not confirm that, and the GATES press release had the photo above.. I am hoping you have seen this reporter SOMEWHERE and can provide a link, other wise it really is not confirmed Not to say it is not true, just needs to be confirmed.

    Does anyone remember the cache of weapons found in that room in Juarez? wasn't there anti tank and aircraft missiles of some type in there?

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  6. Terrorists, plain and simple.

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  7. What happened to the story about the two bloggers?????????

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  8. Of course it is terrorism. the nexican state insists on not calling it what it is because admitting terrorists organizations operate in mexico would only reinforce the failed state argument. but no doubt about it. it is terrorism.

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  9. Cristero said... Yes Chivis there was a light anti-aircraft gun in the picture your talking about, but going back to the article maybe using the word "terrorists" officially by the Mexican Govt might have legal implications within the international community such as the ability of the U.S. being able to fly armed drones withing Mexico's air space. Not that i don't see that as wrong but Mexico has always been very stuborn to allow armed foreignors within it's borders and airspace. At one point Mexico will have to do what Colombia did inorder to beat the Medellin Cartel which was allow U.S. Special forces within it's border but for now i think that the right word for this criminals should be Narco-paramilitary criminal. Like always my Dos Centavos. Cristero

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    1. a political militant.

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    2. Well when ever the U.S. doesn't mind armed forigners in itKs airspace and with in it's boarders then maybe that could be brought up for other contries.

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    3. @11:01 are you enjoying some of those Mexican drugs?? I hope so, otherwise your spelling and punctuation are HORRIBLE! Lol

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    4. Why would we need foreign fighters in the US? We have the best SOF in the world. Thats why they go train the Mexicans how to fight these guys. If other countries could keep the bad guys out of the game without our help our SOF's wouldn't have to be on their soil.

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  10. they are no differeny then hillbillies making moonshine in kentucky

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  11. The only reason I think they don't use this weapons is that majority of them don't know how. If not you would hear more military men being killed in these shoot outs. And the only reason they haven't named them terrorist is because they don't want u.s.a is stepping in.

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  12. if that is the case. then the ATF, DEA, CIA, Border Patrol, ect...are aiding and abetting terrorism.

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    1. If what's the case? Explain yourself pendejo!

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    2. Any country can cause terror if they wanted too...

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    3. @1:22 pm
      The only pendejo here is you imbecil. He means that they U.S. Agency's would be abetting terrorism is because they are also corrupt agents from U.S. Agency that work for cartels, providing weapons ex. Fast & Furious, and DEA agents helping the Sinaloa Cartel capturing enemies and corrupt border agents allowing drugs into the U.S. Inform yourself before calling someone a pendejo, honestly it makes the vast amount of ignorance in yourself very visible. En corto eres un pendejo.

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  13. US LAW ON AIDING AND ABETTING:

    United States Code (U.S.C.), section two of title 18:

    (a) Whoever commits an offense against the United States or aids, abets, counsels, commands, induces or procures its commission, is punishable as a principal.
    (b) Whoever willfully causes an act to be done which if directly performed by him or another would be an offense against the United States, is punishable as a principal.

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    1. Unless the US is the one selling them the weapons.. then that law is not aquire to them.. FUCKING HYPOCRITES IT'S WHAT THE U.S.A IS...

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    2. I love this Hypocrite guy, every story you post, U.S. Are hypocrites U.S. are hypocrites! Your the type of dude who dosent want to get to the core of the problem you just want to point fingers and blame! Your a joke homie and you need to educate yourself!

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    3. Homie and educate myself?? Shut up like your so educated?? Your the bigger joke , cause your in denial , with your perfect US... Look up the history of the US you idiot , there the biggest criminals out there in the REAL world...

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    4. HAHAH@8:56 you got told and now your nit picking his comment to try to get him back but your failing horribly. What proof do you have of these conspiracies you believe in and calling everyone a hippocrate? I bet you believe in the masons and illuminati too lol. And that the Mayans were in direct contact with extra terrestrials hahaha. Who cares who's selling them the guns and who's selling who the drugs? It's a problem and it needs to be stopped.people like you without realizing try to make everything more complex in your mind so you feel like it cant be. Fixed so why try. Everything can be fixed even a broken mirror, will if be perfect again no but it can be fixed.

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    5. How come everyone hates on the US when nothing would get accomplished without our government. When an epidemic breaks out the WHO sits on their ass until the CDC acts, even when they have the power the UN fails to prevent genocide(see Rwanda), the only reason shipping lanes worldwide are not subject to daily piracy is because our Navy is so powerful. Imagine if in this fragile world economy what would happen if the price of gas quadruple? Because without those ”hippocrates” looking out for GLOBAL interests, most everyones quality of living would go down.

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  14. @Chivis...Please do your investigation on illegal sophisticated weapons that the Mexican Drug Cartels have on themselves....As such it's an open secret that to buy military grade weapons one needs an open"End User Certificate" that corrupt officials of some of the countries will provide for big dollars...After that where do these military grade weapons go to, nobody knows except the people involved...You are correct Chivis, there was a report on Sinaloa Cartel wanting to purchase sophisticated weapons that & I presume they as well as the other major Mexican Drug Cartels have such weapons that they will use if it's their last resort to survival...Hopefully someone can investigate into this serious issue.

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  15. What we are seeing in Mexico is a low intensity insurgency not a war on drugs

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  16. Cristero..
    It matters zero what Mexico labels these terrorists, the problem is that the US nor any other entity wishes to establish a legal definition for the term. I say screw that, if the media began using the term Narco Terrorism that would be appropirate if shy to use the term terrorism. ..from the original "My Dos Centavos" Girl

    @1:00PM, though I have a hungry interest in the tacitical component of narco terrorism as an indicator where the drug war is and where it is headed, I am no expert. Dr Bunker has a new book titled MEXICO’s CRIMINAL INSURGENCY, see the advertisment of the book up in the right corner on this BB mainpage, click on and read about it. As soon as the PN story broke he wrote to me asking if I knew about the weapons confiscted in the PN take down, because the photo published in Hispanically Speaking erroneously represented the actual confiscation. I could not find any article that supported the photo and in fact found the GATES official photos which was clearly not the hawk anti aircraft missiles. Dr. Bunker is the one person that I know of that investigates narco arsenal on a continual basis. He also writes in a cool blog with other highly respected experts and journalists called SMALL WARS JOURNAL. He has given BB permission to republish his Tactical Reports which you can find by typing in that as title in the BB search tool. He is writing a hand booklet on the weapons and war vehicles used by narco terrorists. I will let you all know when and where that can be obtained when available..
    …Paz, Chivis

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  17. I would think this explains the shooting of the Guatamala nationals in Texas by the DPS chopper.

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  18. @Chivis...Thanks for the information, highly appreciated.

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  19. They need to shoot some CBP choppers and boats with RPG's and even the score.

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  20. "What we are seeing in Mexico is a low intensity insurgency not a war on drugs"

    You are exactly right. Basically this is a civil war and the Mexican government is losing badly. They can't even exercise control over their major cities and most of their leaders are in the pay of the insurgents. Really what does Calderon control beyond the walls of his mansion? NOTHING.

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    1. This is very interesting. I'll going to wait until it hitz everyone.

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    2. I don't understand everyone bashing Calderon because his plan isn't fool proof and people he has no control over only faith in let him down. No one says at least he stood up for Mexico. Did you really think civilians weren't going to die!? Did you really think the curruption was going to vanish over night?? Calderon had to make such a powerful stand that the following administrations could not just take things back to the old way he had to go so strong that if things went back to how it used to be, it would be obvious world wide. Calderon has done more for Mexico than most. He put his his family and his cabinets families lives on the guillotine to take a stand. Do you understand the kind of money he had to turn down to give the finger to the narcos?? Or do you think the narcos living in the open hush hush was free and past presidents didn't get serious cash?? Calderon is not perfect and some things he's done we're fucked up but the man stood his ground and layed the foundation and deserves some respect.

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  21. I wish the US Military would invade Mexico and kill all these narcos. I just don't see why they invade other countries but won't do it across the river/bridge.

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    1. They probably are in the upcoming years.

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    2. Because it would invite such things into it's own house.

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    3. Because theres no gain for the US .. the US only invades country with oil.. or other resoureces that the US can profit from.. invading Mexico not good for the US , then the narcos won't give them there cut, and narcos will buy weapons from other countries

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    4. Because theres too much $$$ flowing around to put an end to it... you'd be stupid to think the narcos make all the real money alone; everyone profits. Hence all the heavy firepower, and the international efforts to supply it.

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    5. Why does everyone say its all about oil lol. MEXICO SELL HUGE AMOUNTS OF OIL TO THE US AND GOLD AND SILVER. The myth of Mexico being a 3rd world country is such a lie Mexico Is very close to being tier1 all they need is the water service and plumbing like the us and a little cell tower and power refinement that's it they are RICH in natural recourses and cheap labor. Once this mess is taken underground and we can get back to focusing on MEXICO and not the narcos Mexico will boom like china not as much but Mexico will be very much more well off than today. But yah there is plenty oil in Mexico stop being an accuser and conspiracy band wagoner. If you have ever did any traveling you'd realize how much we have to be thankful for instead of focusing on the few troubles we have. The more freedom we get the more we demand its getting disturbing.

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  22. i said it timeand timeagain. The U.S keeps this dum useless prohibition on the cannabis plant and drugs they themselves created, to keep this proxy war going in mexico. To destabalize it to the point that the u.S will intervene to stop the so called terrorist. They same thing they did in afghanistan. For mexicos natrual reasorces..youll see thats were its headed if we dont legalize drugs. These market men created the black market as well. They just care about money man they need to be exterminated

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    1. Unfortunately, they have the society in their palms. Plus, this creates & has to have a Rebellion.

      PROXY WARZ- SuperPowers use other countries to do their dirty work or to accomplish their goals throughout this world.

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    2. Your obviously a pot head oh excuse me I meant a patients that need medicinal marijuana to "medicate" several times daily. Not everything is a conspiracy buddy. You cannot legalize cocaine, heroin, or meth. It's all about how things affect you and with the stigma of these drugs gone and people feeling comfortable saying I'm "medicating" with coke and meth these people are going to destroy our society. The only thing that keeps these guys downlow underground is the stigma created by prohibition. I don't even think weed should be legal because its so obviously these jackasses just want to get high. They don't want it for medicine because they protest putting it in pill form etc. they say the smoking is all part of the medicating process ya blow it out your ass a druggie is a druggie pot and meth all the same. I know it is a good medicine but why not let it be refined into non smokable forms. The truth is everybody wants to be cool, everybody wants to be a rebel.

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  23. The narcos are paramilitaries at this point, operating like warlords in some areas (Sinaloa) and terrorists in others (zetas). I think most of us here realize the war in Mexico has just as much to do with corrupt politicians pulling the strings. The wars between cartels follow Mexican party lines as well, as politicians use cartel gunman as their own armies settling debts. The question is, does Mexico have the will and the means to dig itself out of this mess?

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  24. "why haven't they named them terrorists" um r we talking about the same government that is rife with blatant corruption to its very core?

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  25. Anonymous said...

    If what's the case? Explain yourself pendejo!

    if the mexican trafficking organizations are going to be labeled terrorist organizations then the US government agencies that aid and abet them by providing intelligence, logistical, and material (arms) support are going to have to share in the same burden. So if you call one a terrorist organization then you are going to have to call the other one a terrorist organization as well for aiding and abetting terrorism. That is if you are indeed an objective and intelligent person and have the same standards for everybody's behavior.

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  26. @4:01pm#2 Barrett 50cal. aint for shows dude, there used for planned hits.

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  27. Fuckin gang of women squabbling about shit.Mexican/US all of you,just take a knife and it does the job,fuck would you know.Mujeres putos

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  28. It seems like there are aspects of the firefights in Mexico, particularly the sierras, similar to Vietnam. The big guys with technology against a mass of little guys in sandals with low technology. Sure, the Viet Cong and North Vietnamese had some sophisticated weapons like MIGs, yet it was the swarm of foot soldiers that won the war. The US had bogus goals in Vietnam and the same goes with the drug war in Mexico today.

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  29. U mite b right calling it terrorists but keep in mind that gringos r supporting them by buyin tons of drugs, the same drugs u problebly use everyday so i well call u a terrorist too cuz with out ur money they wouldnt b able to buy all those toy pendejo.so keep buying drugs and selling weapons putos gringos pendejos. Now talk shit

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  30. Example>>> Sinaloa Cartel (U.S.A.)
    Z Organization (???)<<<

    FIGURE IT OUT!

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    1. Still can't figure it out..I would of guess Russia but the cold war has been over in a good while..uhm China? Maybe even Iran or just some terrorist group but if so why would a known Russian terrorist be arrested in MX confessing he worked for the BLO..

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  31. This is for anonymous 2:47 the reason y is cuz US is makin so mich money as well is like puting there pigy bank in the garbage.do u have another question dumbass

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  32. half the deaths. yea his fucking party controls the media before his term is over they gonna claim that they won the war

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  33. I think the usa shuld cut all funding to mexico until the mexican government can install human rights to all

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    1. You can't focus on human rights when a large bulk of the population is filing human rights violations against the army and police by day and moving drugs and beheading by night. Things are changing in Mexico at a rate that they can never go back to being friends with narcos again. Remember mexicos faults of a few men but give these new you get men that are dying and willing to die to clean their country from scum.

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  34. I'm all for taking down violent drug distributors, but it was dirty to plant those fake narco tanks everyone knows they are not used by narcos. No stories of these tanks in the streets and they are too slow. When they do need to protect them they use brings trucks not brinks but that style. Most of the time they use u hauls there is no reason for those this was a move by the Mexican government to be able to label them terrorists and be able to label them insurgents. That way the murders of civilians will be easier to keep quiet while they are at war by saying the dead were harboring insurgents. IF they did belong to a narco he was low ranking and going to use them to fight an enemy, not the government.

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  35. none of you guys know shit. unless your really there on the spot. you all go based on pictures and stories you read. then you automaticly assume you know whats really going on in mexico. when things run deeper than you think. youll be amaze the type of curruption i have seen and thats that i do not live close to the border.

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  36. Yes they do have AT-4, as seen videos of CDS sicarios with them interrogating enemies.
    Also check TheCartelReport page on Facebook and scroll thru their pictures, there's a guy holding an AT-4 just posted yesterday morning.

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  37. Cristero said,,
    What did happen to the bloogers?It would seem if we looked at it rationally,they may have been taken?
    I remember when i was taking my English grammar and puntuation thesius(i passed)that many of my tutor where good people.People that can help a great deal in this world of violence and intolereane that we live in.Hopefully they will be found safe and well.

    Cristero

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  38. @ Kristian
    "How come everyone hates on the US when nothing would get accomplished without our government"
    I wouldn't bother dude,its about negativity...
    Fuckin hilarious this one isn't it?
    All those ”hippocrates” lying to everyone ?
    I may take the"hypocritical"oath as my vocation?

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  39. "thanks to the US habit of making decisions on behalf of others"
    You forgot to mention the new evidence just uncovered that the US is selling nuclear materials to aboriginal peoples.They also sold armor piercing rockets to Iraqi nomads.They also sold faulty ballcocks for toilets that caused untold misery for many,another sinister plan they did was to send dodgy wheels to Iran?They were slightly off center and wobbled?Sound ridiculous?A bit like your comment?I know but mine is also true?Why can't we just blame the US for everything,stop beating around your bush?

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  40. 2:25 PM
    "thanks to the US habit of making decisions on behalf of others"
    What a nob head

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  41. "Yes indeed, criminal organisations have been known to seek heavy weapons from abroad.They have been known to employ said methods gleaned from the US"?
    WEALLY,I DIDNT KNOW,HOW SINISTER,WHAT DID THEY GLEAN FROM YOUR ASS?A LOT OF INFO ABOUT BACKDOORS?

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  42. Where have you guys been? We've been calling them narco terrorists up here for years..

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