Monday, July 9, 2012

Amado Carrillo Fuentes Death: Revenge Over the Death of Ochoa Uncle

Borderland Beat-A Narco Blast From The Past

When Castor Alberto Ochoa-Soto, 53 at the time, walked across the Paso del Norte Bridge to Mexico on Feb. 11, 1995, he likely didn’t realize he was a marked man. But his old friend, Amado Carrillo-Fuentes, wanted his 22 tons of cocaine, which was stored in a Juarez warehouse.



Colombian Drug Lord Unclaimed in Juarez Morgue
by Rafael Nuñez
Late last year I was walking in Downtown Ciudad Juárez when I bumped into a couple of acquaintances, two newspaper photographers with whom I had worked in the past. They asked if I needed a lift to the Paso del Norte Bridge, I said yes, and we were off and running.

They asked if I didn’t mind stopping off at the morgue first, since they had to take some pictures of an unidentified body, and because one of the medical examiners had been expecting them for half an hour, he was probably getting impatient.

When we got there, the doctor greeted us at the entrance, and quickly led us past the security guard and into the morgue itself. It was then I remembered something I had been wondering about for the last three years: Whether the body of Castor Alberto Ochoa-Soto, a former high-ranking member of the Medellin Cartel whose death may have led to the fall of Amado Carrillo-Fuentes, was still there in the morgue, unclaimed, since it was discovered buried in a narco-grave back in November of 1999.
         (Juarez Morgue)
When I asked the medical examiner, he said “Yeah, it’s still here, unclaimed and unthawed, as it has been for the last five years.” I asked the medical examiner if I could see the Colombian’s remains. He said “sure, why not?”

When he opened the long cabinet/cubicle/drawer Ochoa was in, the skeleton/corpse looked strangely small. No clue of who he had been. No distinctive features. Nothing. And I should know, since I saw him up-close every single day for a week during his federal trial in El Paso back in 1995. After a few seconds, the medical examiner closed the drawer and said: “Strange how people end up, isn’t it? From what I understand, this Colombian guy had a lot of money and a lot of power. And yet, here he is in death: unclaimed and unwanted. Probably no one even remembers him. Probably not even one person cares nowadays.”
When Castor Alberto Ochoa-Soto, 53 at the time, walked across the Paso del Norte Bridge to Mexico at about 11 a.m. on Saturday, Feb. 11, 1995, he likely didn’t realize he was a marked man. American immigration authorities were expelling him from the U.S., but he himself had elected to be returned to Mexico instead of his native Colombia. He had told a federal immigration judge in El Paso that he preferred to be “voluntarily returned” to Mexico instead of being shipped on a plane back to Colombia, since he had a young Mexican wife waiting for him, as well as two places of residence: a city home in Hermosillo, Sonora, and a sprawling agricultural ranch in Chetumal, Quintana Roo.

Four days earlier, in the federal courthouse in El Paso, a federal jury had declared him not guilty of bringing into the U.S. a six-ton shipment of cocaine. An immigration judge then ordered Ochoa expelled from the U.S.

His Colombian lawyers had advised him to take up the immigration judge’s offer to be deported to Colombia. They had warned him not to return to Mexico. But Ochoa’s Mexican lawyer, Antonio Tarazón-Navarro, had told him he would be safe. After all, Tarazón had been a Mexican federal attorney for many years before returning to private practice, and he knew the ropes, and had many powerful contacts in the Mexican government.

Ochoa had weighed all the advice and recommendations. And then he had made his decision: He would agree to be “voluntarily returned” to Ciudad Juárez, where he had 22 tons of cocaine stored and where he had previously brokered so many high-volume drug deals with his old friend Carrillo, who controlled the city’s drug trade.

What Ochoa couldn’t have known that Saturday morning as he walked south on the downtown international bridge was that his “old friend” had already ordered his death.
Ochoa met Tarazon at the highpoint of the Paso del Norte Bridge, under the flags from both countries. After shaking and walking no more than 20 steps into Mexico, the Colombian and his lawyer were intercepted by a group of armed Mexican federal policemen in a blue Suburban.
With pistols and machineguns in hand, the federales ordered the Colombian and his lawyer to get in the Suburban, which headed south into Juárez, going against the bridge traffic, which was conveniently being ordered out of the way by other federal agents on foot stationed at the toll booths and at 50-foot intervals on the bridge itself, thus opening up a lane for the Suburban to return back down the Mexican side of the bridge.
Needless to say, at 11 a.m. on a Saturday, all this was witnessed by numerous people, including motorists driving north on the bridge toward El Paso, as well as the regular tollbooth employees, according to press accounts. No investigations into those accounts were undertaken, and when I went to interview witnesses several days later, they refused to answer my questions.

Ochoa Brothers-At their peak worth 6B each

Ochoa, balding and soft-spoken, was a high-ranking member of the Medellín Cartel, uncle to Fabio Ochoa and his brothers, the leaders of the cartel’s inner circle, who had at one time been close associates of the cartel’s former leader, the late Pablo Escobar.
 Ochoa first arrived in Mexico in 1984, when he was in charge of coordinating and overseeing the safe transport and delivery of the cocaine shipments coming from the main Colombian narcotraffickers.
 (at left; Fabio Ochoa said to be the true drug king of Colombia)
 He traveled frequently to Ojinaga to coordinate and oversee the shipments of cocaine into the U.S. That’s where he meet Carillo, who was then a young man in Ojinaga, earning his keep and learning the trade as a handyman and hired gun under “El Pablote,” Pablo Acosta, who had been the first Mexican narcotrafficker to work with the Medellín cartel.

By late 1987, the cocaine trade was booming in other areas of Mexico, and Ochoa had decided to center his operations in Hermosillo, Sonora. In 1989 Amado arrived to take over the family business after his older brother Cipriano Carrillo-Fuentes, the top drug capo in the region, was murdered in 1989.

By then Ochoa, settled in Hermosillo, divorced his Colombian wife – an act that had generated many problems inside the Ochoa clan back in Colombia – and married a beautiful young local named Nora Sandoval, a move that made him appear more trustworthy in the eyes of his Mexican colleagues. He had four residences in four different Mexican states, all strategically located very close to clandestine airfields where small, Cessna-type planes loaded with cocaine landed on a regular basis. His favorite property was in the southern state of Quintana Roo, where along with a large agricultural farm, he also enjoyed the benefits of a government contract, with state-government financing, in which he used his heavy equipment machinery to execute a regional reforestation project.
Amado’s close friendship with Ochoa at this time was a great help to the Mexican drug capo when it came to understanding the intricate details of international narcotrafficking. DEA sources explained that, back then, the Colombians never divulged any secrets about their business to their Mexican counterparts quite simply and frankly because they just didn’t trust them.

Ochoa was an expert in the distribution and transportation of cocaine, and had worked in that capacity for all the main Colombian drug cartels. He knew all the angles, all the connections between producers, packers, and all the intermediaries who move shipments or loads throughout Mexico. He also knew quite a bit about the distribution contacts, networks and routes in the U.S. So in all those aspects, he greatly to Amado’s understanding of how the whole business worked.
In early 1994 Ochoa traveled to Juárez to look up his old friend to ask for help in crossing a 28-ton shipment of cocaine into the U.S. In June, Ochoa was arrested while waiting inside the U.S. Immigration office located at the Paso del Norte Bridge to pick up an entry visa he had illegally “bought” through a man he thought was an American drug dealer, but who in reality was a DEA informant. The DEA had surveillance videotapes of a six-ton shipment of cocaine being crossed into the U.S. through the bridge in several vehicles. The DEA also had audiotapes of the meetings in Juarez between the informant and Ochoa, where all the logistics of the crossings had been ironed out.
Carrillo
Amado thought this meant he could safely keep the 22 tons of cocaine left behind after Ochoa. Carillo, like the U.S. prosecutor on the case, never expected that the Colombian would eventually be declared not guilty by a U.S. court. When it happened, Carillo took matters into his own hands secure the cocaine, which was worth about $3 billion.
Ochoa was not inconsequential, however, and neither was the value of the cocaine. And there was another aspect of the killing that caused a great deal of unease and ill will among narcotrafficking circles in Colombia and Mexico -- the crime was seen as the end of the Colombian cartels’ upper hand and control when it came to the cocaine trade between Mexico and the U.S.
Carrillo, for his part, denied to the Colombians he was responsible, and told them that Ochoa had absconded with his own cocaine. In response, according to confidential informants who had formerly been members of the Juárez cartel, Fabio Ochoa-Vásquez, one of the three brothers who had inherited Pablo Escobar’s leadership role (Fabio Ochoa later arrested and sent to prison in the U.S.), sent a conciliatory message to Juárez: “What has happened, has happened. We feel for our uncle’s untimely death. Perhaps it was bad luck, perhaps it wasn’t. In any case, we’re not interested in revenge.”
Nevertheless, sources close to the Ochoa family in Medellín said that underneath the apparent calm, family members were furious, according to press accounts by Hermosillo journalists after the arrest of Colombian narcotraffickers who were arrested in Hermosillo. They just weren’t capable of retaliating, and much less of starting a war between Colombian and Mexican narcotraffickers. So the Ochoa clan sent back word to Amado that they were willing to let bygones by bygones, and continue doing business with him. Privately, a source close to the Ochoa family said that they were merely biding their time, lying low, patiently waiting for their moment of vengeance.

That longed-for moment might have been July 4, 1997, when Carrillo died on an operating table in a second-rate hospital in Mexico City, while he was having plastic surgery to change his face, in an attempt to evade capture by the U.S. and Mexican authorities once and for all.

The official report said that Amado had died as a result of the anesthesia — that the anesthesiologist had applied too much of it. Curiously, several nurses and other hospital personnel present during the surgery told the authorities that an “unknown doctor” had walked into the operating room several times, and then disappeared.
Also, two Colombians were among the team of doctors performing the surgery. One of the three plastic surgeons who performed the operation on Carrillo, Pedro López Saucedo, also known as Pedro Rincón, is alive and living in the U.S. as a member of the Witness Protection Program “in exchange for information on the Cartel de Juárez.”
 In the end, with the major actors dead, one, Ochoa, was left alone and unclaimed, in a Juarez morgue, shrunken and stuffed in a locker. His body, and that of his lawyer, Tarazon, was found in 1999, buried in a ranch owned by one of Carrillo’s subordinates.

The other actor, Carrillo, had a different kind of send off. In fact, he may have received more attention from Ochoa’s family than did Ochoa.

In Guamuchilito, Sinaloa, the rural Mexican hamlet where Amado was born, the Jefe de Jefes’ funeral was held in mid-July of 1997.
Amado Carrillo "Lord of the Skies"
Below:  The remains of two of the three plastic surgeons who botched Carrillo's surgery.

"Pay Back"

The Carrillo-Fuentes family had received many, many floral arrangements and funeral wreaths, but in their grief, they had let some of the village people set these next to the coffin without reading the cards to see who they came from. “The whole village was there at the funeral,” said a villager with whom I spoke on a visit to Hermosillo. They were there, he said, to honor the memory of one who, to them, had been a hero: He built outdoor cement basketball courts and several other sports playing fields; he had renovated the village church; he had personally paid for the medical treatments of many villagers, including expensive surgeries in faraway hospitals; and his family had employed and helped almost everyone in Guamuchilito.

“After the funeral, when some of us were helping the family clear away the funeral wreaths, we couldn’t help ourselves and out of curiosity started reading the cards that accompanied these wreaths. Somebody noticed that one of the cards said ‘All good things come to those that know how to wait’ and near the bottom of the card, right before an illegible signature, ‘Greetings from the Ochoa family in Colombia.’ We thought we should notify one of Amadito’s brothers or sisters about this card.

“After they read it, they asked us to point out the wreath that had come with this card. It was composed entirely of black roses. One of Amadito’s brothers, and one of his sisters, quickly picked up the wreath, set the card back on it, and then took into the house. This was the only wreath they kept. All the other ones were thrown away and eventually burned.”


About the author: Rafael Nunez is an award-winning bilingual journalist working in the
Juárez/El Paso area since 1994, including a stint covering the narco-beat for El Norte.
Posted on Borderland Beat Forum by Windy City Kid LINK HERE

All Photos added by Chivis

73 comments:

  1. This was a good read.

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  2. This is a scary way to live.

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  3. Uncle Ochoa was the front man for the colombian family.
    If 22 tons of coke had been sitting in a warehouse, the ochoas in colombia were well aware and would have been actively attemping to move it into america, not waiting to see if the uncle was convicted or acquitted.
    All cartels have built-in redundancies. If one person is arrested someone steps in to take his position.
    Nice story but false!

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    1. What arrogance, your telling a reporter, who's job it is to report facts that he is wrong. Becouse you think you know how its supposed to work. What ignorance, and self importance you must have. I in the other hand will side with the reporter who most likely know way more of the inner workings of cartels than you could even fathem. Good story.

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  4. Great story. Mexican drug dealers and their greed.

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  5. ACF made the colombians exit Mexico from that point on, they were delegated as just a procurer of cocaine nothing more, and the colombians started focusing on Europe....ACF the biggest to ever.do it....he had his own bank or three.....
    Atte.TCR2013

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  6. Good article!! More on lord of the skies please!

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  7. @ 5:34 unless you were there, please don't say it's a false story.

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  8. Does anyone agree that Amado, in his heyday, was bigger than Chapo is now?

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    1. Amado Carrillo was the most successful druglord of our times. Yes he was, or is bigger than chapo Guzman.

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  9. Amado Carrillo is alive he retired from the drug game and faked his death. People do it often its not impossible to do it especially if you have billions of dollars to make it look real. Something tells me he is in Argentina or Spain.

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  10. So the colombians had amado carillo killed? Or was it really complications from anastesia?

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  11. Great read ... Thanks for the story and keep them coming

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  12. It was well known that the Ochoa's were extremely upset and infuriated with regards to the murder of Castor! However, like the article states they were virtually powerless to do anything about it because of the "heat" they were feeling already in Colombia! Plus, a venture into Mexico so soon after the murder would have been difficult to say the least. Amado wasn't a stupid man...he figured the only thing standing between him and 3 billion dollars worth of coke was one man (Castor), who I'm sure was speculated by the underworld bosses to have flipped (turned informant). How else could he had beaten the conviction? Still, Amado under estimated the reach of the Ochoa's and the funeral wreath says it all...

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  13. Sounds fishy. Why would the Colombians just let 22 TONS of cocaine just sit like that? Were Uncle Ochoa and Carillo were the only ones who knew about it's existence? I don't think so.

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  14. nice story, I wonder if its true

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  15. What was the point of the story in the family 'keeping only the black roses into the house'?

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  16. Similar to what happened to carrillo in cartel de Los sapos part 2

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  17. so i guess jesus blanconelas was right all this time th arellanos did try to kill amado but he always said ochoa family were the ones that did it fuck he said this in 1997 so i guess his right when he claimed the arellano felix clan will never b finished there to smart and powerful and there still in charge fought off cds and teo weak crew and goverment also military ans they still call the shots

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  18. 5:34 AM...Most of this story came from a book, "The Life and Death of a Mexican Drug Lord" (Terrence Poppas) about Pablo Acosta and much of what this writer said is in the appendix. The biggest move Amado made with the Colombians was to purchase the cocaine directly from them and handle everything from point of purchase. It increased Mexican profits dramatically and reduced loss risks for the Columbians which made it a win, win. This made Uncle Ochoa slightly rogue especially after leaving his Columbian wife and marring a Mexican. The Munoz Talavera brothers were moving huge amounts of cocaine through Juarez/El Paso to Los Angeles for Amado. They had moved 11 tons in small loads without one single bust. Ochoa wanted to maximize his deal and piggyback these mules but after he got busted, Amado made other plans. This article is absolutely true and the sources of it are the closest to scholars that we have on the Juarez Cartel which in fact is the only cartel that keeps everything close to the vest and lets no information out. Pablo Acosta himself interviewed the Terrance Poppa, the author of the book and after it was published he went into witness protection himself. You do not know what you are talking about. Incidentally, The Munoz Talaveras' made a strong play for leadership of the Juarez cartel after Amado died but Vicente's sicarios got to them in the end.

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  19. Another great story from BB. You guys are going from bloggers to journalist

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  20. In his hey day he was the man in charge. Now a days it's CDS moving that type of weight. BLO, Chaps, Mayo, Azul, they all strived to take that position. Thru trial and tribulation it has happened. He was a billionaire reason why CDJ still exists.

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  21. great story its nice to read about the old school players keep the old stuff coming . great article guys

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  22. I agree, that coke wouldn't just be sitting there awaiting Ochoa's fate...22 tons? no way.

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  23. @ 4:30 PM I have the book and it does not say anything about this story. It does mentioned Amado's death on epilogue but it does not link ochoas to amado's death

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  24. If Amado killed the Uncle and stole 22 tons why would he not keep on ripping the Colombians.
    If he did this the Colombians would know and if he was buying coke from them, the Colombians would rip him!
    How convient the black roses and card.
    Nice story but false!

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  25. No real info who these doctors were. Who were the colombian doctors and why they were there. I thought 5 doctors were burned and encased in cement.
    No real info from the ochoas in colombia.
    No reason why uncle ochoa's body was never picked-up.
    Nice story but false.

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  26. Only stupid people believe everything they read.
    Believe none of what you hear and only half of what you see.

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  27. For all the trolls: Rafael Nunez is a respect journalist & has been around since 1994. I trust everything was followed up before going to print back in 2006. This was a long known rumor in the underworld. It was Rafael that had the backbone to bring it to print & shine light to it.

    *look up the story about the doctors in BB forum
    WindycityKid

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    1. Rumor is right! Not a known fact. This is just one of many theories of what happened. I read somewhere, I can't remember where but one of those theories was that he had a relative killed and put in his place and that's why he appeared disfigured during the middle of a supposed botched surgery to alter hes appearence. Him being a relative would have similar dna and would fool people into believeing it was him who died, giving himself the chance to change identities and dissapear.

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  28. Wow, cause he is a journalist the story must be true. Flawed journalism at the best and complete fiction at the worst.
    Give your empty head a shake.

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  29. The pressure to capture Carrillo intensified among U.S. and Mexican authorities, and perhaps for this reason, Carrillo underwent facial plastic surgery and liposuction of his abdomen to change his appearance on July 3, 1997 at Santa Mónica Hospital in Mexico City. However, during the eight-hour operation, he apparently died of complications caused either by a medication or a malfunctioning respirator. Two of Carrillo's bodyguards were in the operating room during the procedure. It is unclear whether the lethal dose of the drug Dormicum was administered intentionally or in error, by the surgeon or the bodyguards.[citation needed]

    On November 7, 1997, the bodies of the two physicians who performed the surgery on Fuentes were found dead, encased in concrete inside steel drums, with their bodies showing signs of torture.[10]

    Some fringe theories reported in Mexican newspapers hold that Carrillo's bodyguards smothered him with a pillow; or that the PGR tortured him to death first, then faked the plastic surgery; or, as was reported in El Financiero, the corpse was really that of Amado's cousin; or, perhaps the most unusual version, reported by respected radio and TV journalist Pedro Ferriz de Con, was that Carrillo committed suicide, according to an interview where Carillo allegedly said, "If I die, nobody killed me. The only person who can kill Amado Carrillo is Amado Carrillo."

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  30. In Juárez, the PGR seized warehouses they believed the cartel used for storage of weapons and cocaine. PGR agents seized over 60 properties all over Mexico that belonged to Carrillo, and begun an investigation into his dealings with the police and government officials.Officials also froze bank accounts amounting to $10 billion dollars belonging to Carrillo.[15] In April 2009, Mexican authorities arrested his son, Vicente Carrillo Leyva

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  31. Great article, were the surgeons dug underground? Their bodies look weird, that would suck to die for failing a surgery.

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  32. If people have seen the movie Traffic its about carrillo and that also portrays that amado swicted bodies in the operating room and was faking his death to change identities and go spend his couple billions cuz he probably was only able to save and keep a small portion of his money im sure he only retired n took off with 2 or 3 billion after they seized his 25 billion fortune all in all hes a true legend until this day people believe he is alive while others like the D.E.A officially declared he died from malpracticed surgery and since he was a cocaine user they couldn't bring him back to life his health wasn't so good entering surgery i personally believe he faked his death and got away rich to enjoy the rest of his life if so he wouldn't be the first o or last person to do that

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  33. For those he think the dead doctors are fat, they are in fact bloated from internal decay which causes gas. Since thay are encased in cement and a steel drum the gas cannot escape, hence the fat appearance!
    Nice story but fiction!

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  34. Windy...totally agree, as one "connected" person told me "No way in hell would he have allowed to transpire to the cartel and his family...he is dead"

    DNA confirmation. But you know how people are, they love a myth, e.g. big foot, chupacabra and the lord of the skies live...paz, chivis

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  35. Hey thanks for the explanation of why the bodies were so grotesquely bloated. I don't want to get overly gross, but at time in decomp, the skin splits I don't see that here, can you explain why?

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  36. The sealed air within the drums would compress(any air pockets outside the bodies)from the forces of the decaying internal body gas pressure.
    The gas decaying gas pressures were not of significant pressure to rupture the drum which in effect was the outer skin of the encapsled corpse.
    Of course if there was an escape pressure valve, a stop cock, basically a channel for the gas to exit from the barrel, a rupture would occur in the skin and the bodies would deflate.

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  37. I should add if you throw a dead body into water, it will always gaseous bloat and return floating on the surface until it expells its gas and settles to the bottom.
    To ensure a body stays under it must be gutted or a SIGNIFICANT weight added to ensure it doesn't surface.

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  38. I almost expected rascal pickletrain to be sitting in between that fat bastard's legs

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  39. July 11, 2012 1:57 PM .
    "For those he think the dead doctors are fat, they are in fact bloated from internal decay which causes gas"
    You right on,also accounts for how a corpse laden with weight,will still rise to the surface of water.Basically the gases fill the body cavity up with gases just like a balloon,until the gases can escape.These guys still look pretty fresh.In this case,who knows,they could be fat and overweight as well.There are many around nowadays

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  40. I read in another blog.. can't remember the name, anyways... I read that the body guards killed him.. the doctors were just murder so they would take the heat... And plus no witness... Amado Carillo was a greedy drug lord, he was the one that had his friend Pablo Acosta " El Zorro de Ojinaja murder so he can take over the Juarez Plazas... He also paid he's workers with drugs...

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  41. @Chivis Possibly because the cement + sides of the barrel would have only allowed the skin to stretch so far but not far enough to cause tearing.It also could have slowed the speed of decomp because there was no exposure to the elements the skin was able to stretch slowly

    Baggy the anonymous

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  42. P.s amado is deader than elvis and tupac... Oh wait they both livin with castro and returning in 2011, Oh wait that story failed then it was 2012 and that hasn't happened so the latest fable is 2014 tupac returns! Tupac & elvis gonna release a rap/rock track about amado the undying with him singing zombie backup vocals

    Baggy

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    1. This is completely false- no way is 2pac singing a corrido.

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  43. "the skin splits I don't see that here, can you explain why?"


    I`m just guessing but since they were trapped in concrete filled barrels there was no room left over for anything to happen. And now I`ll go and try to forget that horrible image, I looked at one of those barrel pics and sat there thinking "what the fuck is that....what am I looking at....jesus.....what the hell is that, seriosuly!?? Oh god...."

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  44. sounds like a cospiracy theory to me

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  45. I think some people have misunderstood the point of the article, which no doubt parts are true and factual. Like Castor and his attorney were murdered and for the most part Amado too. People are getting hung up on the part of 22 tons of cocaine was sitting in a warehouse...keep in mind that was Castor's impression, that doesn't mean it was so. I'm sure soon after, Castor's arrest Amado took control of the cocaine and figured with Castor tied up in the US courts the coke would be his. As far as the Ochoa's in Colombia inquiring about the 22 tons, who knows...but they were powerless to do anything about it...considering Amado at the time was the "top dog" with plenty of fire power to back him up! Plus, in the drug world relationships between drug lords (suppliers and shippers) is often times fragile but the overall goal is to move weight! Meaning without Amado, the Ochoa's would be hard pressed to find alternative "shippers" to move that kind of weight! I'm sure Amado liquidated the 22 tons and had Castor murdered in an effort to tie up any loose ends! The fact remains the doctors were indeed murdered, so it's apparent some kind of conspiracy or controversay surrounds Amado's death...IMO it wasn't accidental!

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  46. "what am I looking at....jesus.....what the hell is that, seriosuly!?? Oh god"
    Are you people really as shocked as you make out?
    People look at videos and pictures and then get all righteously upset?It strikes me as a sort of phony"outrage"at violence.Violence is as much a part of us,as is evry other emotion.It is definitely easier for some people to do violence,but then,we are human and all differing individuals.Isn't that what makes us interesting,isn't it this same thing which makes this topic interesting?

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  47. The skin expands on a dead person, you could see this if you have an old issue of Alarma! magazine were you could see pictures of bloated corpses. The bloating is the second stage of decomposition. The skin splits or peals off around this time especially if flies lay their eggs in a corpse.

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  48. Fabio Ochoa looks like his butt is under his belt buckle! LOL!!

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  49. I say this without wanting it to be the focus...:)

    get the cement encasing but it allowed for the bloating of gases so there must have been room for the skin to do its thing as it requires less. that is why i was perplexed. I harden cement how did the bodies bloat in the first place. hmmmm the person who spoke about a valve, I did not think of that.

    @ 6:19AM Isn't "it" gross? why wear a damn belt with that mess of blubber..Paz, Chivis

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  50. coke head druggy Amado died because his heart was destroyed from all the coke he did and couldnt handle the meds..what a loser hahah.

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  51. There is always talk of the medellin cartel but the cali cartel was (im sure they are still out there) pretty mounstrous involved(no doubt with the government) in "social cleansing" and worldwide laundering.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cali_cartel

    ...ever hear the story that escobar used to take trips to NYC every once in a while? anyway...

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  52. Fabio Ochoa,is a stern warning to everyone who overeats.But nowadays,we have to be politically correct about that."I,m fat,but its not my fault"?
    Well baby,it aint my fault,just stop eating so much crap.Its a personal thing,but,i like to look at my cock.

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  53. Dayyyyyyum,bury that motherfucker,or burn him?
    That dude must be ripe as a brown banana.Man,why would you wanna look at that?You would think someone would say,c,mon man,enough already,he stinkin the whole place out.Imagine fat Fabio,and the poor horse that had to carry his lard ass,i bet horses had heart attacks from carrying his double ass.What the fuck is that all about,an ass on your groin?How did he go take a shit?Lying on the top of the basin?

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  54. You're gay dude.!!
    July 14, 2012 10:51 AM
    Why you interested dude?

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  55. That Fithly Piece of Monkey shit got what he deserved in the End. A Gruesome death and cast into the Fires of Hell to Scream in agongy for eternity!!LOLOLOL!!!!

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  56. The Mexican gangs are not true intelligent, organized mobsters. They lack the high intellect necessary to bring to fruition the process of production, refinery, and distribution of smuggling narcotics or of any smuggling in general. They are lowly, subhuman cockroaches who are there just to try and smuggle anything sent by Colombians into the US and they can't even get that right. They are just another method of many for Colombians to get their products into the US. And their way of emulating old Colombian killing tactics like beheading, mutilation, and disembowelment is pathetic and laughable.

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    1. Dont blame us for your family taking you to taco bell for your graduation dinner.

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  57. I believe the "fake death" theory, why not? this would have been easier than an actual surgery to change the way you look? Hoe about the DNA testing? did they do that? and how would they confirm his DNA anyway? I don't think Mexico has a DNA data base for everyone? so yeah I do think with all that money he's gotta be somewhere plush! :) He was mad young too!

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  58. Exactly! He had the brains to last as long as he did in the game by strategically taking out specific leaders before him to secure his "top dog" position. Dont you think he had the brains, mean, motive, and resources to fake his death? He was a billionaire with power. People are so nieve. I dont glorify murders but who knew when to get out while still rich n at a descent age. I still believe Pablo could have done the same. Not saying he did but definately would have been my decision if I was Mr. Escobar.

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  59. People are really ignorant. I know this is a year old but the facts speak for themselves. While it doesn't make sense to us why the load was left there. Im sure things were more then complicated if Ochoa was the sole front man. Only other person up there was amado, which I'm sure said I'll do my best and try to find it. This is just speculation. The facts speak for themselves. First if Columbians had other people to move it, why would Ochoa tell amado to begin with and entrust him with its location? Obvious Ochoa knew they needed amados help. Whether it makes sense or not, why else would amado kill a close friend? An Important business partner if there wasn't anything else in it for him? That makes even more sense. Why did amado kill ochoa... I'll give you 2 billion reasons why... greed. Great spey

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  60. The story seemed concocted. No one leaves 22 tons lying around. Anyone, on Amado's level, who had a new face put on would eliminate anyone who knew what that new face looked like; body guards and surgeons. Maybe the surgery that took place in the hospital was a fake surgery. Maybe the third surgeon was deliberately left alive to be a witness to the fake surgery. Maybe the real surgery was done in an abandoned warehouse or a hotel room, with only the surgeons present. The Ochoa family didn't claim their relative's body because they know that he'd flipped on them; had become rat. Maybe no one was needed to replace Amado because he is still alive and well!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  61. @ June 10,2012 11:58am
    I agree with you! Amado Carrillo could be alive, lets remember that he was the most richest and powerful drug lord of his time. He could have faked his death and moved to some other country with a completely new apperance. As I've read before, One of his daughters has seen him after his death. It could be a roumour.
    And, to someone who said 'Vicente Carrillo' is Amado Carrillo's son... You're quite wrong, that guy, the one that got arrested and controlled the Juarez Cartel, is Amado's brother.
    Get your facts right guys.

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  62. Vicente carrillo LEYVA IS amado's son. he is the one arrested and extradited...Vicente carrillo FUENTES is the brother and he still controls Juarez to this day. get YOUR fact straights before you try to correct anyone. and to those thinking amadito is alive, sorry to disappoint you... he is dead and buried in Guamuchilito

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  63. ههههههههههههههه والعرب بحكو انه واحد قتل ابوه هههههههههههههههههههههههههههههه

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  64. el esta vivo tiene buenos amigos en baja california, el tiene cabeza ancha casi no tiene arrugas no ha pasado el tiempo en el desde el 97, la ultima vez que se le dejo salir fue cuando estaba zedillo ponce de leon y lo dejaron salir por tijuana a tomar a san diego el avion que lo llevaria a peru pero se iba a parar en argentina el se vino desde sinaloa por tierra y burlo la revisiones federales y de militares lo dejaron pasar lo enviaron en pasaje directo sin entrar a pueblos a detenerse solo subio un relevo que no sabia nada a quien llevaban, y en el transcurso del camino en la carretera a sonoyta otro vehiculo lo quiso sacar en el lugar mas alejado de los poblados y en su lugar atentaron pero contra otros dos hombres que viajaban enfrente unos kilometros y creo que uno sobrevivio para contarlo los confundieron,les dieron el pitazo pero el sr amado no esta muerto hablaba muy contento con su vieja que estaba en peru esperandolo para vivir una vida tranquila con sus chamacos.. llevaba en su mano derecha una esclava pesadisima y gruesa, y un reloj en su mano izquierda bien de aquellotes.Su comunicacion era satelital y hablaba hasta con los gringos les tenia que avisar en que punto o kilometro iba, y el se identificaba en las llamadas que hacia como SOY YO! AMADO! AMADO NO ME OYES, AMADO CARRILLO! EL ES EL JEFE VERDADERO RETIRADO Y por lo que entiendo estaba cansado y pidio ayuda a estados unidos para salir del pais y librarla bien el viajo para un fin de ano pero no recuerdo si en el 96 o 97.. Y es buena persona nada que ver como lo hacen pasar solo es un poco estravagante el don..parece que usa peluca usa bigote que parece centroamericano, no es chaparro, es de complexion fuerte, mira muy fijamente sin parpadear, tiene una ceja triangular, habla muy raro no se sabe si es chinola,veracruzano,colombiano o peruano pero si habla un poco como la sra laura bozzo, y todo el tiempo trae pegado su cel o radio y siempre esta conectado a las redes, es un cibernauta mas. Senor de los cielos si hubiera sabido quien era usted y que tan buena gente que lo conoci le hubiera pedido que ayudara a mi familia y nos protegiera de tanta maldad y falta de recursos.Que pase feliz anio nuevo don Amado Carrillo, se le estima, tal vez si ud no era el que el que iba en aquel transporte yo no estaria viva ahorita,porque certeramente iban a chocar ese vehiculo porque les dio coraje y sacaron de la carretera a los senuelos.En la carretera sonoyta-san luis rio colorado sonora. este donde este haga algo por ayudarnos a mi y a mi familia, se que el que se echaron fue a un primo al que le decia ud compadre era residente de sonora.mexico.Como Don Amado no hay dos nunca olvidare su chal de lana de llama.

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  65. el esta vivo tiene buenos amigos en baja california, el tiene cabeza ancha casi no tiene arrugas no ha pasado el tiempo en el desde el 97, la ultima vez que se le dejo salir fue cuando estaba zedillo ponce de leon y lo dejaron salir por tijuana a tomar a san diego el avion que lo llevaria a peru pero se iba a parar en argentina el se vino desde sinaloa por tierra y burlo la revisiones federales y de militares lo dejaron pasar lo enviaron en pasaje directo sin entrar a pueblos a detenerse solo subio un relevo que no sabia nada a quien llevaban, y en el transcurso del camino en la carretera a sonoyta otro vehiculo lo quiso sacar en el lugar mas alejado de los poblados y en su lugar atentaron pero contra otros dos hombres que viajaban enfrente unos kilometros y creo que uno sobrevivio para contarlo los confundieron,les dieron el pitazo pero el sr amado no esta muerto hablaba muy contento con su vieja que estaba en peru esperandolo para vivir una vida tranquila con sus chamacos.. llevaba en su mano derecha una esclava pesadisima y gruesa, y un reloj en su mano izquierda bien de aquellotes.Su comunicacion era satelital y hablaba hasta con los gringos les tenia que avisar en que punto o kilometro iba, y el se identificaba en las llamadas que hacia como SOY YO! AMADO! AMADO NO ME OYES, AMADO CARRILLO! EL ES EL JEFE VERDADERO RETIRADO Y por lo que entiendo estaba cansado y pidio ayuda a estados unidos para salir del pais y librarla bien el viajo para un fin de ano pero no recuerdo si en el 96 o 97.. Y es buena persona nada que ver como lo hacen pasar solo es un poco estravagante el don..parece que usa peluca usa bigote que parece centroamericano, no es chaparro, es de complexion fuerte, mira muy fijamente sin parpadear, tiene una ceja triangular, habla muy raro no se sabe si es chinola,veracruzano,colombiano o peruano pero si habla un poco como la sra laura bozzo, y todo el tiempo trae pegado su cel o radio y siempre esta conectado a las redes, es un cibernauta mas. Senor de los cielos si hubiera sabido quien era usted y que tan buena gente que lo conoci le hubiera pedido que ayudara a mi familia y nos protegiera de tanta maldad y falta de recursos.Que pase feliz anio nuevo don Amado Carrillo, se le estima, tal vez si ud no era el que el que iba en aquel transporte yo no estaria viva ahorita,porque certeramente iban a chocar ese vehiculo porque les dio coraje y sacaron de la carretera a los senuelos.En la carretera sonoyta-san luis rio colorado sonora. este donde este haga algo por ayudarnos a mi y a mi familia, se que el que se echaron fue a un primo al que le decia ud compadre era residente de sonora.mexico.Como Don Amado no hay dos nunca olvidare su chal de lana de llama.

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  66. Badges? We don't need no stinking badges.

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