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Saturday, June 2, 2012

Arizona: 5 Bodies Found in Burned Out Vehicle Likely Tied to Cartels

This image provided Saturday June 2, 2012, by the Pinal County Sheriff’s Office, shows the vehicle where five dead bodies burned were found inside in Pinal County's Vekol Valley area, west of Casa Grande, N.M. Authorities say the incident may be drug related. (AP Photo/ Pinal County Sheriff’s Office.


Arizona Daily Sun

Five bodies burned beyond recognition have been found inside the shell of a charred sport utility vehicle in the Arizona desert, and Pinal County Sheriff Paul Babeu said Saturday the case is likely connected to drug cartel violence.
The bodies and vehicle were found in the Vekol Valley, a rugged, mountainous desert area that's a well-known smuggling corridor for drugs and illegal immigrants headed from Mexico to Phoenix and the U.S. interior.
The bodies were so badly burned that investigators couldn't immediately determine their gender or ethnicity. While it's unclear whether the victims were from Mexico, the sheriff's office has notified the Mexican Consulate.
"Given all these indicators, you don't have to be a homicide detective to add up all this information," Babeu said.
A Border Patrol agent first spotted the white Ford Expedition driving at around 4:30 a.m.
The vehicle disappeared despite an effort by federal and local authorities to track it down. Why the vehicle first drew attention from authorities is unclear.
At daybreak, an agent spotted tracks leading from Interstate 8 into the desert. The vehicle that left the tracks had apparently launched off the highway, going airborne for a short distance before landing in the desert. The tracks continued on for a couple of miles.
Agents could see the smoldering vehicle from a distance through binoculars.
They approached with extinguishers. Inside, they found the bodies _ one in the rear passenger seat and four lying in the back cargo compartment. The front seats were empty, Babeu said.
Babeu said investigators will try to determine whether the victims were dead before the SUV was set ablaze or whether they were alive when the fire was started.
"Clearly these people were murdered, but we don't know the manner of death," he said.
The sheriff said the extent of the violence, particularly in the western part of the county _ about 35 miles south of Phoenix _ is more evidence that drug smuggling north of the border hasn't subsided.
Pinal County deputies were involved in more than 350 high-speed pursuits last year, and Babeu said most of those involved cartel members. There have been shootings, the bodies of murder victims have been left in the desert and just this week, several loads of drugs were confiscated, he said.

71 comments:

  1. Sounds like the violence is slowly spilling over to US soil. I think there's more to the border patrols story it doesn't make sense that they know more than their letting up. I have a feeling its not immigrants or kidnap victims this is playback for a lost load, money, or just wrong place wrong time.

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  2. they're here....

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  3. Violence has been evident for years already someone lost a load and paid with there life that's how it goes

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  4. and let the mayhem begin here in the US lets c how our government is gonna respond to that im from south Texas bring it bitches if our borderpatrol cant defend shit I guarntee those guys gonna have trouble against us.because.we gonna shoot back DONT FUCK WITH TEXAS.

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    1. South texas is filled with golfos pendejo...hay como 5 levantones diarios y que no salen en las noticias hay tantos robos de carros y asaltos a casas de seguridad.. La maña esta aqui es un pinche desmadre.. Tambien hay zetas cobrando deudas... el valle esta de la chingada...mejor callese a la verga por que aqui anda el desmadre en tu cara sin que te des cuenta... no sabes la cantidad de gente esa que anda en las milpas, sharyland, mcallen,lajoya hidalgo brownsville etc... aquii andqn los hijos de todos los mañosos pesados de tamaulipas nuevoleon etc..... Esto lo se por que tengo los ojos muy abiertos ... so please asswhole shut up its alreasyyy heree. we cant stop it...

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  5. It is not slowly spilling over.This kind of stuff has been happening for the longest. If you grew up along the border you heard of things happening like this your whole life, its just turning into national media instead of local.

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  6. Somebody forgot to tell our fearless Fed leader Eric Holder and Hillory. Best leave this alone least the Democrat voters might take offense.This MO is typical Mex Narco BS.

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  7. U.S. Law enforcement are in on this one big time.

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  8. No such thing as spill over violence...if any official says there is..there just looking for federal funds....I live on the border

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  9. Either way our u.s. Investigators and intel reports will soon figure out who did this. We will soon hear about arrests.. it seems kinda suspicious that they were lost and the driver is gone. Luckily for us we have officers who do their jobs. Lets not forget that these cartel members love snitching as much as they love breaking the law.. Atte. El PAISA

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    1. U.S aint gunna do shit there scared,because if chapo really want he could heat up all the U.S.

      Obama suks Chapos nut so does the DEA and tge honorable FBI hahaha!!!!!!

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    2. It sounds like you too enjoy pleasing this midget.. Hahaha.. There is no fear in our troops or people. We are all well armed and ready for you. U can bring those pussy vests. They wont stop what we have for you. God bless the U.S.A. And our right to bear ARMS.. Hahahahaaaa!!!

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    3. Anyways who trained the zetas? Oh yeah forth base or we the name of is . Which is located here in the usa. Before you to rooting you might want to look at who created the problem

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  10. Don't be surprised to learn that That Murder Job may have been on members of some USA legal system representatives. How far from any penitentiary was the vehicle? for example. Or were they DEA guys?

    Indeed, it makes me think that the nerve of the criminals is being expressed in USA, and it makes me think that Mexican criminals did this type attack.

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  11. I disagree with you bro immigrants I think.The coyote/s probably panicked,killed, and ser them a blaze. Another scenario possibly the border patrol has something to do with it or vigilantes.

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  12. It was the wild fires out in New Mexico that caused it. But of course they want to blame it on Mexicans and Mexican Cartels.

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  13. If this this violence keeps coming this way, 4 sure the United States is going 2 Mexico and wipe out all the cartels and thats wut we need....

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  14. "Either way our u.s. Investigators and intel reports will soon figure out who did this. We will soon hear about arrests.. it seems kinda suspicious that they were lost and the driver is gone. Luckily for us we have officers who do their jobs."

    What planet are you on, you LE cheerleader? Here's your coffee, now smell it. US law enforcement are corrupt criminals on the cartels' payrolls. Do their jobs? They think their jobs are harassing law abiding citizens. The only good cop is a dead cop.

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  15. LOL wild fires, Yeah cause we can clearly see the flames came from the left and engulfed the car and then spread further to the right of the pic... oh no wait. not a single scorch mark in the surrounding area of burnt tree..
    I say it was the minute men, the militia that gaurd the border without proper authority to do so..
    what do you think this means for the u.s gov chivis? bury their heads in the sand again??

    Baggy did it....

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    1. Id have to agree with you. The US Border Guard or whatever the f*ck JT Readys crew calls themselves these days. You know they have radios just hoping something like this comes over the lines. I'm sure they were looking for these poor bastards all night and when they found them, they acted knowing that cartels would be blamed. Cartels aren't stupid. They know something like this would bring unnecessary heat. I find it hard to believe that they'd kill 5 people on US soil.

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  16. No one would just lay in the back of a burning vehicle. They where dead already.

    These guys managed to loose track of these individuals despite their efforts? Starting to sound like Mexico already.

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  17. Not good. I hope there's no civilian groups [minute man types] involved.

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  18. Obama and his administration have completely failed the American people...
    I feel terrible for the innocent people on BOTH sides of the border who have been caught up in this nightmare!

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  19. A few weeks ago there was an ambush, just north of this, where guys with automatic weapons lit up a van full of illegals. Did any of you hear about that in the US news? No. I am shocked that this one was even reported. We used to hunt in this exact spot for Javalina and Mule Deer. Six years ago the BPatrol rolled up on us and advised us to get the kids out of the camps and be armed at all times. Not only that, everywhere you walked there was trash. Gallon jugs, tooth brushes, caffeine packs, back packs, burnt cars, discarded clothing..... It's estimated that there is 14 thousand tons of trash dumped in the AZ deserts every year. That's an average of 8 pounds of fecal waste and trash per illegal who crosses. Where are the environmentalists? Mountain Lions, the javalina, bear, deer, bobcats, and even reptiles are needlessly killed and their normal territories are disrupted by the mass invasion into our country. These deserts are some of the most fragile of ecosystems on the planet, but no, let's not do a fucking thing about it. Heaven forbid we upset people who aren't even supposed to be here and are breaking the law trying. I don't get it and never will. These fukcing horse shit democrats are all talk and don't give one shit about our lands and how fucked up they get. California's federal lands are also fucked from the Mexican pot growers who don't give a shit if you put car batteries and fertilizers into the streams that the animals depend on. Bush didn't do shit, but Obama goes beyond not doing anything and actually has Holder go after any state who makes an effort to uphold the laws that are already here. Fucking crazy. I would have never imagined a President who actually goes after the vote of people who shouldn't even be here.

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    1. Unless your a native this applies to you too.

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    2. God bless you i too will pray for this to be heard.

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  20. To whom this may concern: if you cross the border at designated border crossings you limit your chances of being set on fire beyond recognition!!!

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  21. @11:49am

    if Chapo ever tried to "heat up" all of USA it would be game over for him and all the cartels.

    USA would simply declare marshal law and lockup all the illegals and legals. believe me when i tell you that USA has plans and enough prison camps to lockup all 15+ million illegals and anyone who is legal from other countries

    about USA prison camps - http://www.apfn.org/apfn/camps1.htm

    rex 84 was a plan to detain 21+ million people and that was back in 1984

    the last thing any cartel wants to do is "heat up" the USA


    ~~~el spaceio~~~

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  22. Next up..... ..drone attack and high profile kill in cartel......cartels really close to waking up a sleeping giant...

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  23. Paid kidnappers probably saw the cops got scared and torched everything

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  24. "cartels really close to waking up a sleeping giant"
    Fuckin tellin ye,don't pick fights with big motherfuckers.I thought that was human nature.
    Surely they cant be that stupid?
    Prod the bear,and you gonna piss him off big time.Mexican bullshit about this an that.
    Man don't fuck with the most technologically advanced weapons on this planet.And fuckers i aint even a US citizen.

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    1. Afghanistan iraq n.Vietnam heard this before didn't.they?
      Even the French said this when.they invaded Mexico and Mexican natives defeated.the strongest army in tht time with no.more then machetes,slingshots.that threw rocks(big ones) small caliber sweapons compare to.the French. Is not about technology is about balls. And if tow us tries to enter i can guarantee the cartels will would together.and fight back. Which would make it worst..you simply can't stop violence with violence.

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    2. Teach them....

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  25. USA wouldnt attack Mexico cause Chapo won't give them there cut.. PLEASE mothamuckas SLEEPING GIANT.. the DEA, FBI and ATF turn there face away from the problem, but stick out there hand so Cartels can pay the fee... U guys read to much Tom Clancy books... It's obvious this is not a Cartel hit.. Coyote freaked out and a booked...

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  26. People that aren't supposed to be here? Thats just stupid. This land was dominated my mexicans and natives long before the white man showed his face, so u shoulde take a look at your history books. If u look at it the whites fucked this land looking for gold, destroying forests, killing the people who were already settled ( mexicans/natives). Trying to say that mexicans are ruining the desrt, look at the waist youre own countrymen leave, but due to ignorance you people do not take these things into account. I think america is paying for its past fuck up's and bullying of pretty much everyone, its come back to bite america in the ass. Karma is a bitch.

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    1. Yes and mexico was a land of milk, honey, and integrity before us evil white devils forced your people to take over drug routes from the Colombians. Give me a break... Its this sort of ridiculous rhetoric that just serves to piss off and divide people. Look at world history genius, if you do you may notice the trend that he who wields the biggest gun or knife takes over. It's the way of the world. And Mexico has always been a corrupt and wild country. How come there is no accountability?

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  27. Cartels cannot heat up the usa because american law enforcement is too nazi.

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  28. Its kind of weird how they say they lost track of the vehicle, how can they loose track of the truck w/ all that technology?? ( huh it sounds dam suspicious 2 me )

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  29. Half these posts are idiots. The putting down thing likes oh the cartels are close to waking up a sleeping giant haha that giant is 15 trillion dollars in the hole you ignorant sheeple.Also they act like this is the first time cartels murder in the U.S haha there so stupid that they don't know cartels kill hundreds of people every year across the U.S. They have been doing so for decades and the u.s with all the captain America's and armed forces haven't done shit.Then again those armed forces actually kill there own Americans like white people killing there own same with blacks they kill lots of americans.Also of course el chapo doesn't want the u.s heated up thats his cash cow he wants the American drug addicts to be relaxed taking his drugs and then buying more.Its like chapo likes america he doesn't want to see it on fire why would he if America and its "Americans" have made him into a billionaire.

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  30. america stil strongest economy and strongest military in the world by far...yes we are a GIANT o and a nuclear power......mexico???

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    1. Mexico is also a nuclear power you idiot.What do u think will happen if China or Russia was to bomb Mexico.?.....yeah that's right,the US nuclear bombs would be bombing back.Just put it like this;if someone came to ur neighbors house and shot it up and bombed it,and u had a major interest in in your neighbor,you will be fighting to help him out.

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    2. Ur on drugs or u should be

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    3. Mexico has had nuclear power plants operating at 100% capacity since 1968, you ignorant boy.

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  31. CAPTAIN AMERICA AND AVENGERS WILL BE TAKING ON THE EVIL EMPIRE OF CHAPO GUZMAN AND HIS SINALOA CARTEL ON THE NEXT AVENGERS MOVIE... I can see the trailer already.. Get the Fuck out of here with the waking of the "GIANT" crap...

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  32. oh my poor fellow americans its in your backyard now and your really confused about who did what. could it actually been some of your people O M FUCKING G. wow . i guess your feeling it right about now . anyhow this will be a good conversation to follow up on.and yeah i think your sleeping giant may have overdosed on that smack.cause yeah cartels have been operating over there kind of like a silent killer . how many dnt o.d. how people lose thier lives to addictions how women dnt protitute themselves for a piece of rock b4reals man do yor research it may be your own dishing you the very poison they tell to stay clear off .i guess there is fairy tales

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  33. Very simple,,, if your not in this drug game u have nothing to worry about,,if you are pay your debts,or you will die. Dont make this into something else. Its a drug war,,stay away from it, and u will b fine. Trust us.

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  34. @ 2:07 am. And yes it is americas fault mexicans picked up traficking routes. With ronald reagans war on drugs they shut down the original trafick corridor of the carribean, when that happened americans just had to have their drugs, so some poor guys said fuck it lets make money, oh and if u look farther in history the united states paid farmers in sinaloa and durango to grow poppies for morphine, and marijuana wich was americas drug of choice at the time. So u cant blame mexicans for bringing the stuff in, blame youre countrymen for not being able to live life without drugs.

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    1. Delusional...I love how people act like no drugs are consumed in Mexico. No accountability whatsoever. America is a first world nation...has been for a very long time. Mexico is a third world nest of corruption, and has been for decades before the drug war. So, who is really responsible...both countries. America and Mexico need to legalize drugs. From there America's problems will largely end...will Mexico's?

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  35. The cartels have been operating in Arizona for a long time. And sheriff Joe Arapahio staff have been involved with the cartels for a long time. It was in the news about one year or so ago that four females working at the sheriff's office were having love affairs with cartel members from Sonora, Mexico, even one of them had children with one of the big bosses and she was living on the mexican side on weekends. One male staff member working at Joe Arapahio's office as a radio operator was married in Mexico to the sister of a cartel sicario named Tony Aranda. And do you believed that sheriff Joe Arapahio said that he didn't know shit about it. Corruption in the USA at a higher level of state government?

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  36. start shooting all smugglers caught

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  37. Wow..there is certainly no shortage of ignorant and misinformed people on here! One burnt out vehicle with five bodies and all of sudden everybody knows..what happened! Then you have other assholes on here claiming the US is powerless to do anything and US law enforcement (whether civilian or military) is weak? Perhaps, you don't know how the "game" is played! The drug war as we know it has been escalating since 2006...we are now is 2012...and still there has been very little "spill over" into the US, as compared to Mexico. You can't argue with the facts...Drug Lords fear US justice..Period!

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  38. Man,i if i was on the border i be havin some of that AK/AR shit.And im gonna murk any motherfucker who looks wrong at me.Cause i aint gettin fucked by some skank Mexican.Blow peices out of his face,then worry about it.My white brothers,we always being told how bad we are,well fuck em.Lets be bad.You get fed up being told how bad,wrong and racist we are,and were fuckin not.We have become to weak,and been to nice,what the fuck has it gained us?Other races stick together,why cant we?Oh now i will be called a racist.Viva La Raza,anyone?

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  39. About 2 weeks ago two bodies where found in a canal along Thompson road in Eagle Pass, TX. Both of the victims had had their throats cut almost resulting in decapitation. The violence does happen on this side of the border it's just not reported along with the stories of families being kidnapped cause a deal went south. Of course Obama did say that the border is the safest it has been in years. I wonder if he was talking about the Canadian border?

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  40. @6:52 PM What history books have you been reading? The ones they use in Mexican schools? The only "battle" the Mexicans won against the French was at Puebla. They lost the rest of them. You can't guarantee anything because you don't know anything.

    @5:42 PM Yeah, karma is a bitch and mexico is piling it up. Only a small amount of the "trash" is on the US side. 99% of it is in mexico. It doesn't matter what the US does, mexico is screwed because it's people are corrupt.

    @12:32 PM Correct!!

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  41. @ 4:12pm June 4 2012
    You know you are really stupid. The U.S. is also a corrupt nation that has it's "trash" as well. Hmm.... congress. And yeah it doesn't matter what the US does because it is also screwed. U.S. is also becoming more like the Nazi's. Military can now be used against civilians. Congress was trying to pass a law in which the President can declare war to any country. What about the filtered internet act.(SOPA). The US is screwing the people over little by little and claiming its for a good cause to gain the trust of the people and then back stab them.

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  42. Anon June 4, 2012 4:12 PM what about the First and Second Battle of Tacámbaro?

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  43. the zetas were trained in the u.s.a so they can counter attack the sinaloa cartel .. so it's america's war on sinaloa .. but sinaloa is the crib of all top notch big dawgs .. they will never let em win ... la mafia nunca muere!!!!!

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  44. 06/04 11:19PM,
    God damn son, get with the times bro..the original Zetas time has come and gone..Lazcano is the last one of the original thirty or so, the rest are dead or in jail! The Zetas these days are low level, poor, uneducated, drug addicts, with no discipline or proper training. Get over that "American trained Zetas" that shit don't exist anymore..it's now a myth a fantasy!

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  45. The violence has been in the United States since the 80s. Back then if you messed up they would send sicarios from Colombia to get you but this would rarely make major news or they would simply say it was a murder without mentioning further.

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  46. Cartels might already be here but the top leaders are not stupid as long as dea and top officials get their payoffs in the millions to let the billions worth of drugs in,everything will be okay,cartel leaders may order a hit every now and then in USA but mainly we launder their money and consume their drugs and sell them weapons but you will never see 20 decapitated corpses with a manta in the USA cartel leaders are not stupid so they are here in a sense maybe cells here and their but killings are done much more descreitly to blend in with the numbers its just bad for buisness for cartels to really bring that kind of brutaility here,come on if it wasn't for the millions in payoffs,we would of killed every Capone's in the cartels we just pick and choose who isn't paying and which ones are bad for buisness.

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  47. ^^^^True.. Gricelda Blanco in 70s and 80s in Miami had tons of people murder thru the Cali Cartel.. and media would always have an excuse for the cause of death...

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  48. Murder/Suicide family from Phoneix, had been missing is the latest, much more plausible then cartel violence, imo. That Sherrif Babeu had always come off as a blowhard and an idiot to me.

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  49. This has nothing to do with drugs or cartels. This is a murder/suicide case where a cancer stricken moron who was despondent over a pending divorce decided to kill his wife and three kids and himself.

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  50. "you will never see 20 decapitated corpses with a manta in the USA"

    Mabey you are right about decapitated corpses but you're dead wrong about the mantas. In the 90s the U.S. home grown "cartel" BMF would put their name on billboards and even record music videos.

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  51. How long did it take to get those billboards taken down by bmf and we haven't seen any mantas since

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  52. Some of these comments are just silly comparing USA security to Mexico ...you really think if the head of the FBI or any other agency was assasinated like there Mexican counterparts heads wouldn't roll ? come on get real !!! the cartels definitely don't want to wake the USA security forces ...can you imagine what CIA black op teams or Navy seals attack groups would do down there ? the cartels don't want any part of that ..if the USA can find Alqeada operatives in the back woods of Pakistan, do you really think they could'nt find El Chapo or Lazcano or any of those other cartel scumbag leaders ?

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  53. They weren't narco mantas in the traditional definition anyway but billboards, promoting a record label, owned, backed and financed by the 'real BMF'. Very flagrant and misguided, probably stupid, but not the same as the ones left in Mexico.

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  54. Has anyone considered that it would be ALL too easy for the US border guys who "lost" track of this wagon, with all their tech and skill, might have done so to let the ground grunts wipe out a cartel load vehicle and make it look this way?

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  55. A little late to the party but I think its time to let the Army, Marines and National Guard do more patrol training in these areas...nothing "live fire training and exercises" then let local authorities clean-up the mess. Nothing like starting a new precedent of joint operations between Departments of our Protect and Serve Authorities.

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  56. I think its high time to just bomb the cartels. Carpet bomb those mother f******!!!

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