Reporting on the Mexican Cartel Drug War

Mexico Drug War: Narcos accept "papal truce" according to banners hung in Guanajuato

Tuesday, February 7, 2012 |

Translated by and posted on Borderland Beat Forum by Havana


An alleged organized crime group put 11 narcomantas in seven municipalities in the state of Guanajuato which accepted the request made by Archbishop of Leon, José Guadalupe Martín Rábago for the visit of Pope Benedicto XVl, who is expected to arrive on March 23, 2012


LEON, Gto. February 7.
Yesterday, an alleged organized crime group put 11 narcomantas in seven municipalities of Guanajuato, which accepted the request by Jose Guadalupe Martin Rabago on January 22 to , asked criminals to reduce violence during the visit of Benedict XVI Mexico, which will be March 23 - 26.

However, sources from the States Attorney said the truce prevents a rival cartel from operating in Guanajuato.



Pope Benedict XVI

On January 22, Martin Rabago made his request to members of organized crime: " collaborate even allowing all these people to come to a totally respectable act. No advantage to do something that would lead to an experience of grief and death" he said.
This wasn't the first time the Mexican Catholic Church called for a truce with narcos. In December 2010, Cardinal Juan Sandoval Iniguez, did it twice. Last August, Conference Esiscopado Mexicano asked them to allow the tour of the relics of John Paul II.
On Jan. 28, the representative of the pope in Mexico, Christopher Pierre, said that the church didn't ask for a truce: "What we asked is for a change in mentality"
Narcos Accept Peace during Papal Visit

A criminal group operating in Guanajuato allegedly accepted the proposal of truce requested by Jose Guadalupe Martin Rebago for the visit of the Pope who is expected to arrive in Mexico on March 23.
Across seven different municipalities of Guanajuato, the cartel allegedly distanced itself from the attack on the Attorney General' Carlos Zamarripa Aguirre's body guards, in which the attacker was killed and an escorting officer was wounded in the leg.


 Sources at the Attorney General of Guanajuato reported that the contents of the discarded blankets said that the organized group antagonistic to the Sinaloa cartel has been responsible for the violents events in the Santa Fe residential subdivision.

The mantas allegedly show their agreement with the Archbishop of Leon and the proposed truce, days later rejected by Christophe Pierre, apostolic nuncio in Mexico, information released three weeks ago.

On Jan. 23, Martin Rebago called on organized crime to establish a truce, making free and safe the roads of Mexico to all those seeking to get to travel Guanajuato to see Pope Benedict XVl.
Given the insecurity of the roads to Guanajuato, mainly from the north, Martin Rebago appealed to the human sensiblity of assassins and drug traffickers in March to respect the population.

"To collaborate allowing all these people to come to a totally respectable act. No advantage to do something that would lead to an experience of grief and death.

"We believe in their hearts, which ultimately are human, there is sensitivity to respect the lives of people"

In the narcomantas yesterday, the truce alleged the condition to prevent Nueva Generación, allegedly linked to Joaquin El Chapo Guzman access to Guanajuato

Recall José Antonio Torres Marrufo, alias El Marrufo, líder de Nueva Generación, armed wing of the cartel Sinaloa in Chihuahua was detained in Leon, Guanajuato last week.
Calls For Peace

The Catholic Church leaders have called several times on members of organized crime to refrain from further offenses

On March 27, 2011, the archbishop of the Archdiocese of Leon, Jose Guadalupe Martin Rabago, called on drug dealers and hit men to repent their sins, withdrawing from the activity of death to obtain God's forgiveness. He admits that the punishment of excommunication imposed on drug traffickers in some dioceses have not had "much result."

On August 9, 2011, the Catholic hierarchy in Mexico called for a truce that would deter violence while the relics of Blessed John Paul II traveled to more than 100 locations around the country. Amid a climate of violence in parts of Mexico, the Mexican Bishops Conference called for the criminal to allow Mexicans to venerate the relics in the journey that began on 25 August.

On December 4, 2011, the Bishop of Cuernavaca, Alfonso Cortés Contreras, joined the call for Christmas truce, requested by the poet Javier Sicilia to the drug cartels, but also added his regret at the pain you have caused to the society.


The Catholic prelate specifies: "I am making a fraternal call to them, and on behalf of God to think that this is not the right path, that is not the path of peace, which is not the way to live as brothers and as human beings. "

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Anonymous said...

Yo Chibas! I read this story in the Forum and wonder why there aren't a foto of the banners instead of that ugly Poop alway. And it was the Knights that agreed, right ?

Ariel said...

I read the story but was distracted by your type choice. It is worse than your last post Chivis Martinez. and you have the font set lower. It is unprofessional to keep changing like that. People are getting very annoyed. You are like a school girl with a new typewriter ribbon. Did you change back to NYTimes and change back again? It is hard to read. I don't like stories about the pope especially near that big, sinister, gun down south a bit on my big, professional screen.

Anonymous said...

A la chingada con Guanajuato......puro Z

Anonymous said...

How come the church has more control than the government? It could be because the Pope is in the Religion Department. So, it is a church state? Does that means the Pope Mobile will scale the Sierra Madre to meet el Chaputa? The Pope mobile flies a little and floats a little too, I heard. But not many know. It can submerge but doesn't need to often. That is why it looks so weird and is worth so much money. It even has it's own plane cause it doesn't fly far off the ground just enough to maneuver over power lines. They have started designing a new one but it won't be ready for this trip. How many are going to Guanajuato. I hear it will be safe now. It was safe before BTW WTF?

Anonymous said...

Dios te ruego por Mexico... mi lindo querido Mexico.

Anonymous said...

The Catholic Church making a deal with the Devils ......Again

Anonymous said...

You guys R funny tonight?

Anonymous said...

The Catholic Church is Eddie Haskelll on a good day. Don't turn your back.

Anonymous said...

no mames

Anonymous said...

It was caballeros templarios puttin that n they are tellin the nueva generacion to leave guanajuato peacefully or it will resolve to violence...... caballeros templarios dont want anything to happen during the popes visit..... I read it yesterday on a major newspaper of mexico

Anonymous said...

Tregua? Verdad? Gracias a Dios. En serio. Papal Tregua? Vaya con Dios. Viva Mexico!

Anonymous said...

With all those little boys to rape, and the thousands of priests that need to be moved around to avoid prosecution, it's hard to believe they have any free time to deal with drug cartels. The church of boy fuckers, is what they should be called.

Anonymous said...

Maybe they should welcome the pope with a narcobanner: "Not torturing this week padre but still creatively ruining everything in Mexico." Pura Z, CT, NG

Anonymous said...

Let Mexico drown in their own blood.

Anonymous said...

How are the cartels and catholic church linked? Am I missing something here?

Anonymous said...

February 7, 2012 6:51 PM @Ariel you poor little baby, instead of attacking Chivis you should became a reporter and show us what you're made of.

J said...

So, CT are enemies of Chapo Guzman? We never really found out where they stood, after the split/formation.

Anonymous said...

Who's the school girl? O.o

Anonymous said...

As disturbingly funny that is you make a poor assumption that a small poor percentage of this religious faction is the majority.

I am not religious but try to have some faith.

Anonymous said...

A comment of hate and sadly too common.

Chivis said...

@ 6:12PM and FONTY

Chibas?
I did not wnt to post this because there were no photos out there of the mantas. I went ahead but kept searching, as did Havana. We really tried everwhere and youtube, finally she found the pnes I just posted above.

I told Havana before I posted, I hate to do this you watch someone will complain there is no Manta fotos and watch Fonty will complain again about the font.

I was right on both accounts, trust me if the mantas were out there they would have been included in the first place.

and Fonty...Ariel I think you mean to spell ARIAL...or maybe you are a mermaid? in either case, this is the last time I will respond to you about the font. The font is the exact same size and style (normal/Arial) as I use each and everyone of the post with the exception of the first 2. and its the same as the posts that follow mine. I think you need to see an eye doctor or invest in some ZOOM text software.

I will not be changing the font, this is it, forver, if it hurts your eyes I suggest staying away from the posts that have my name.

Anonymous said...

Puro maruchanez for life!!!!!!
Mmmmmm, maruchan limon con Chile pikin tasty!!!

Anonymous said...

Ct doesn't

Anonymous said...

Ct doesn't want gente nueva causing havoc hunting down Zorras, that's why they agree to the truce. Bad for publicity

Anonymous said...

@10:28 Seriously, what good would that do? Time and life is too precious to fool yourself believing in handed down myths. Really it is no different than basing all beliefs systems on say Alladin. Think for yourself. All who believe and follow are basically ignorant and suspect it, but don't deal with it because they are afraid of having to decide what to do with the hole that a lack of religion in their lives will leave. Deal with it and stop using a myth to make excuses for not having capacity to form your own thoughts and opinions.

Anonymous said...

Pope Benedict 16th is a great man, he is so intelligent and wise, I admire him very much,I hope God sends many many blessings to Mexico. For those who like to read and are open minded to know more about a person even if you don't agree or like him, this is a link to some of his writings and quotes.

http://www.papalencyclicals.net/Ben16/index.htm

http://www.goodreads.com/author/quotes/4905855.Pope_Benedict_XVI

Anonymous said...

All this shit is confusing!! CJNG is armed wing of CDS right? CDS and CT are allies so why does CT want CJNG out? CJNG are known as "MATAZETAS" are they also gonna be known as "MATATEMPLARIOS"?

Anonymous said...

I hope it doesnt get michoacan vs Sinaloa because it will get ugly! I think those michoacanos will fight to death! Plus I think the familia put this up to heat things up, because I don't think chapo wants CT as their enemies

Anonymous said...

Don't test this CT guys chapo cause there will be a war that u don't want, this guys are ur last hope

Anonymous said...

the cartels are scum they say they are going to have a truce but its going to continue. especially the templarios bunch of hypocrites who kill innocent people and yet they are respecting the pope?? ALL CARTELS ARE A BUNCH OF DRUG ADDICTS POWER TRIPPING SCUM OF THIS EARTH!!

Anonymous said...

EL MARRUFO WAS LEADER OF GENTE NUEVA WING OF C.D.S NOT NUEVA GENERACION THATS THE JALISCO CARTEL AKA MATAZETAS..SAME BUT DIFFERENT

Anonymous said...

"Maybe they should welcome the pope with a narcobanner: "Not torturing this week padre but still creatively ruining everything in Mexico." Pura Z, CT, NG"

"Let Mexico drown in their own blood."

GREAT COMMENTS!

Anonymous said...

He's not great

Anonymous said...

Anything involving CT makes me laugh chaputa will stab em in the back like everyone else he has a truce with then war will come

"lito"brito said...

it is normal that they make a truce..the church sent the "conquistadors" out to rob the world in search of gold...the narcos are in search of gold...exploiting Mexico was/is their common goal

Krom said...

The Narcos need to repent for their sins and crimes against the Innocent people of Mexico and the incredible harm they do to the addicts and families in the EU and other countries where they ship their evil drugs..

Anonymous said...

I gave up on the Church a long time ago. I couldn't decide whether it helped Mexico or hurt Mexico. It helps just enough not to be completely ignored.

Anonymous said...

Viva Elias Calles! They should have another War of the Cristeros. Best thing that any Mexican President did was smash the power of the catholic church.
They're going to have to do it again. It's time.

Anonymous said...

Wow...quite ridiculous to think the Pope is going to have any affect on the activities of the DTO's. For one thing, the people involved in these organizations are not "good honorable men!" They are in fact the epitome of the "evil men do." IMO..the Roman Catholic Church is a vastly bogus institution with a history of corruption, scandal, murder, etc..

"lito"brito said...

@ B CHIVAS

i got a little more info on the levantons in Santiago according to my source nervoso...they were Americans..i am trying to get the name of the iglesia or grupo...how many Americans are running a church in Santiago?... mebbe it is the pedophiles

Anonymous said...

a truce during the papal visit? that's a fucking joke. What's the point? So stupid. Fucked up country.

Anonymous said...

@10:03 War of the Cristos was a historically brilliant move. I agree it is time to do it again but who would orchestrate a truce once in a while. Surely not el gobierno.

Anonymous said...

Finally someone intelligent people here don't understand that cdg is weak since they're infighting and cdjng isn't as big or deadly as CT that leaves a powerful dominent force CT as they're only strong enough ally to fight zetas

Anonymous said...

I do recall a truce between enemies that was suppose to take place in Vietnam which is now known as the Tet Offensive back in 1968. These barbarians don't care about anything then killing each other off. The Pope coming to Mexico wont stop any blood shed.

Anonymous said...

GTO was given as a token of respect to LFM from Chapo. After moreno was killed it seems they had a change of heart but it was too late. CT is very active in there getting rid of zetas and I know Sinaloa does not want beef with Michoacanos.

Anonymous said...

fk the pope.

Anonymous said...

Glad to hear this. I will be going to Northern Michoacan/GTO next week for a carnaval but im still going to strap.

Anonymous said...

If chapo would end up fighting Michoacan we can all pretty much agree on the Zetas dominating mexico in a few years because CT is CDS last strong ally

Anonymous said...

if it comes down to that Jalisco gunna have a new owner CT is stronger than NG and cds doesn't need another enemy especially Michoacan

Anonymous said...

@ Lil Brito 11:23 What are you and your sources talking about? actually there IS a decent amount of Americans running churches in and around Santiago...

Anonymous said...

CT stronger than CJNG??? They don't even venture out of michoacan out of fear, CJNG is on a path to destroy the zetas and any other cartel that stands in the way, so stay the fuck out of the path or you will get steam rolled putos, I speak the fucking truth. Besides how can they be the last hope as you say if there scared to come out of there hole???

Anonymous said...

Lol @ jalisco gonna have a new owner CT bahahahaha, they are to buisy dressing up like the real nights templer and smoking crack that they don't have time for anything else. Sinaloa don't need anybody specially no clowns who dress up bahahaha pinche michoacanos con sus mamadas

Anonymous said...

All i know is that when michoacan does not feel respected by anybody, they will do everything possible to get that respect.... Nueva generacion if you still want to stay alive and be a cartel.... I think you better respect wat the CT wants you to do......

Anonymous said...

these people really do think that they can do all the wrong in the world and ask the Virgin Mary to forgive them in okey. It like the woman who living in this house who is having an affair with someone husband from Mexico. She prays and sing holy songs all day and really thinks that this man is her husband. That while she has $40,000.00 of the wife in Mexico money.

"lito"brito said...

Anonymous said...

@ Lil Brito 11:23 What are you and your sources talking about? actually there IS a decent amount of Americans running churches in and around Santiago...
February 8, 2012 1:00 PM


it was an honest question i have no idea how many Americans are doing "church" work around Monterrey

my "sources" only heard that there were some pastors picked up and that they were Americans...

B Chivis was wondering if it was the cult like "children of God" sect... she is a very serious person..and i respect the question as well as the person asking ..so i try to respond

so now that you have opened the subject with me ..what can you add?..

are you a member of a church group in the area

are you knowledgeable about Americans and churches

you seem offended by my post ..why???

Anonymous said...

CT HAS MICHOACAN ON LOCKDOWN JAJA ZETAS AND LFM ARE GETTING THEIR ASSES KICKED AND CT HAS PLAZAS IN NORTH GUERERRO

Anonymous said...

CT aint shit sinaloa will.stab em in the back then it will be everyone agienst sinaloa and thats when el chapo falls

Anonymous said...

Only in Michocacan? Estas pendejo. These guys are all over Mexico City, Tijuana, GTO, Morelos, Jalisco especially up here in the US. They got rid of all zeta cells in Michoacan. Something no other cartel has done.

Anonymous said...

Lil Brito,,,This little bitch lives in the US,but is now throwing sad little jokes about pedophilia?Was you throwing jokes when the two old missionaries were killed or were they up to no good.As someone up top said.Fuck Mecico and let it drown like a motherfucker in its own blood.As long as they kill each other who gives s fuck.They arrogant racist whining fuckers always blaming someone else.Usually the "white man"i got friends darker skinned than these fuckin clowns.I say fuck em,and forget em.Isn't that ever so constructive.Fuckin waste of oxygen,the lot of them."We don't want no gringos help,we;ll shoot them if they come here"Yeya mayne,thats what we want to hear.Just stick to that attitude.Pendejos.

Anonymous said...

Pendeja is what you are you say they don't leave they're hole then why are they in Guanajuato, Guerrero, Colima, and Baja? Next is jalisco they better be ready cuz they fucking with Michoacan ask Zetas how it went with them they killed actual zetas not fake ass halcones and wannabes like jalisco did ahahahahah

Anonymous said...

Exactly Guanajuato is and belongs to CT and they Michoacan people not Z or Jalisco tell them jalisco pussys to try and control a few towns in they're in state before they want to venture out into others territory

Anonymous said...

Just wait till they go to war and jalisco gunna go beg cds to intervine and it will be to late those dumbasses in Jalisco think they bad they ain't got shit on CT ask nacho coronel how much he respected Michoacan he wanted them as allies in the beggining

Anonymous said...

They also have GTO and colima Michoacan is 5 levels ahead of jalisco

Anonymous said...

Sinaloa gunna get dragged all over mexico if they get Michoacan pissed cuz that's they're last strong allies and Michoacan and Gulf cartel are close they been known to help eachother out unlike cds

Anonymous said...

All these dumbasses talking shit are sinaloa fanboys trying to make jalisco seem dangerous because they killed some halcones but they are to stupid to comprehend that CT/Michoacan has eliminated all traces of Z in Michoacan and Leon

Anonymous said...

cartel templarios is no match for cartel sinaloa if sinaloa cartel controls michoacan i think is beter most sicarios from ct would switch cds michoacan is worth the trouble chapo knows how to win wars plus the ct are a bunch of kidnapers extorsionist, rapist,killers.

Anonymous said...

U right good job in ur research and to the dude with the comment above the one im responding........ At least michoacan doesnt let the zetas get near their state unlike sinaloa go got deep in sinaloa....... In CULIACAN too!!!!!

Anonymous said...

Pendejo Los zetas ya andan en Jalisco y no Los pueden sacar estupido y esos pinches michoacanos Los sacaron asta bolando

Anonymous said...

@Lito Brito
This is a good place to ask that question directly and someone should have heard something. It is a little vague as it now. Were they in charge of the operation? And disappeared?

Chivis said...

Hola Brito,

Man I sure hope that if there was a kidnapping of american church people it is of the Pedos. I am not sure why you were jumped on, I was asking a serious question. Those pedo's should be taken care of. Did you ever watch the Ricky Rodriguez video just before his suicide? that is what this group did to children in the name of God.

there are good folks working in Mex in the name of Jesus, far more than bad, but there are some very bad animals that exploit children under the banner of God. I have seen it up close.
Thanks Brito (and cut the chivas crap :)

To the guy going to Michoacan, I am 50/50 if the truce will be honored. But remember 4000 troops landed last week. So lets hope it will be safer....Paz, Chivis

Snr "lito"brito said...

@ February 8, 2012 3:00 PM

so by your fake hustle and flow Memphis TN use of "mayne " you reveal a lot ..mainly that you are uno puto celoso falso ...mayne..tri it lak dis maain..

yeh puto i have seen that movie too...

tambien..esta...Fuckin waste of oxygen,the lot of them..."the lot of them"..shows that you are the limey POME ..keep talking baboso...

you givn yourself away more and more ..and let Mexico drown init;s own blood ..you better stay where you are ..and i am sure it is not in Mexico..real tuff talk from a pendejo maricon

you boorish ass ...you add nothing and you do not even entertain..viete a la verga y callate POME

Anonymous said...

CT has Ben fighting CJNG for a while now in borders between Guanajuato michoacan jalisco CT killed a Sinaloa boss de jalisco they found him in la piedad michoacan going on for like 4-5 months now

Anonymous said...

Everybody stating that CT is more powerful then CDS has no idea how things really work. CDS is the oldest and most powerful cartel in the world. These guys even work with the US (Vicente Zamabada admitting him, his father, and el Chapo have been giving up information on rival cartel and rival members of their own faction in federal court). CT and La Familia both were started no longer than 10 years ago, trying to use religion as a method of brainwashing there men. I'm not doubting their power and influence, but they would never last in a war against CDS. If Nacho Coronel tried keeping it cool with them it was because they were neighbors and shared common interest in keeping the Z's out of their territories.

BTW I've heard before that one of the leaders of this CJNG group is one of Nacho's own nephews, Martin Beltran Coronel, who was arrested not too long ago and like always, was released in a month or two, thanks to his good ol buddy El Chapo.

"lito"brito said...

@ B Chivis whatsup BEEEE!!!!

yeah i always got a little fan club of annoying mouses..what is a king without a court..jajajaja....especially the english fool..AKA POME..prisoner of mother england..his fake accent is rich...

i was confused by your "fonty" fly...what the hell???..but after your last schooling of them mebbe they will fly away

soo..back to the kidnapped church people...my "sauce" is gonna ask about the name of the iglesia or group...i am curious now

you know i hardly ever run into any other Americanos in Monterrey..the random canuck...but very few Americans...i think they are there ..but over in san pedro ..or the holiday in or some big hotel..but not where i go ..strangely enough ..Germans ...go figure ...and mormons ???..and the ever present mennonitos,,, but i should have guessed there would be penecostal missionarys , and other evangelicals operating in the area..

if there are bad ones around ..they reflect poorly on ALL Americans ..and that is not good at all

Anonymous said...

Ct, CDs, cdg
Cjng not all united but keep it peaceful. Respect they turfs. There is in house fighting between them but peaceful among each other.

"lito"brito said...

@ Anonymous said...

This is a good place to ask that question directly and someone should have heard something. It is a little vague as it now. Were they in charge of the operation? And disappeared?
February 8, 2012 4:09 PM
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no se..i don't know anything other than what i have posted..and i am not sure it is not just a rumor... noticias havn't mentioned it yet ..but mebbe it is not newsworthy..there are a lot of things that don't make the news...mebbe half of the crimes are under the radar

and my source is kinda scared to say much , so it is at the ...let me know if you hear more stage...and i can't really pressure them...but i am really curious about it now
_________________________________________________

@ BEEE!!!..hey it was a typo...my new computer has a wacky keyboard..used machine...don't B grouchy..jajajaa

Anonymous said...

What was the boss name? I have family and friends near La Piedad and they say CT has that city tighter than an asians snatch

Anonymous said...

Hey Chivis,why you boys with this puto litoBrito? He is nothing more then a hate filled ignorant bigot..by corresponding with him and giving him any legitimacy,you vastly undermine your own credibility! You are a "Reporter" act like it!

Anonymous said...

Cartels r prob scared that their sons will b butt raped. Or maybe being predominately catholic they r scared of the popes magic powers... But still if I'm the pope I'm gonna put a gps tracker on the pope mobile ... Wonder if the pope could do a sit down with the fighting cartels get them to confess to their sins and smoke the peace pipe

Anonymous said...

Ariel your comments remind of a little baby that needs its diaper changed...lol...

Anonymous said...

Javier Guerrero Martínez of Jalisco was shot then dragged down a dirt road along with another man in December of 2011 he was allegedly trying to establish him self In michoacan they found him in ecuanduro close to la piedad

"lito"brito said...

@ February 8, 2012 6:08 PM
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mira ingles wigger...k triste ..don't beg..you really are new aren't you? let me help you a little bit joto...in Mexico never show weakness ..you will stand a better chance to go out strong ..with some respect

but since you have never been to Mexico , and call mexicans beaners , you wouldn't know that would you maaine

Anonymous said...

Te ban a bolar huevos si sigues hablando...matazetas my ass... They aint doin shit.... Dont ever compare them to the CT pendejo perro malparido

Anonymous said...

Im pretty sure the person who responded is mad cuz CT has more respect than that weak cartel of your .... Jalisco .... Home of the punales jajaja

Anonymous said...

Damm right... I think we know which cartel is stronger and more respected... N it aint no jalisco cartel jaja

Anonymous said...

Im pretty sure the kidnappers, rapists , extorsionists, are the lfm no CT ..... Remember that is why they split moron

Anonymous said...

Im pretty sure that if there was a war.... Cds would be too scared to get inside Michoacan

Anonymous said...

Chingen mucho a su puta madre pinches jotos, a mi me la pelan, I chingen su puta madre CT, puro Matazeta hijos de su perra madre, sige michoacan que esta lleno de corientes como ustedes pendejos.

Anonymous said...

Nobody respects CT dumb fuck?! They are a bunch of clowns who think they are special because a ex teacher called la trucha, or tuta someshit like that who named themselfs knights templer. I bet more than half of those clows don't even know who the real templers really are. I ain't mad dumb ass, why would I be mad? I can care less who you or anybody else think has the biggest nuts. I just speak the truth.

Anonymous said...

Beltranes let that happen they emploey them pendejo. So you saying CT is stronger than CDS???? You fucks are fucking retarded ass fuck is all I can say, damm there is some stupid people on this blog, im willing to bet a lot of them are michoacanos, there pretty stupid, just read this whole blog. Lol.

Anonymous said...

CDS would kick there fucking face in no problem, just saying, I know you from michoacan but c'mon dude be real now!

Anonymous said...

They tried but failed big time!

Anonymous said...

CT is not stronger than CDS but much feared, everybody knows that chapo is the real deal in the drug business.

Anonymous said...

No apoyo a ningun cartel perro como me gustaria mirarlos Que seden en su madre creo esos putos michoacanos si le den en su madre a Sinaloa

Anonymous said...

CT is not stronger than CDS but much feared, everybody knows that chapo is the real deal in the drug business.

Chivis said...

6:08 PM

"Hey Chivis,why you boys with this puto lito Brito?"

Well I don't consider myself a "reporter" I am first and foremost a humanitarian, working in Mexico and Nica. But I love Mexico and its children and spend perhaps too much time researching news and information, and then I share that with people.

As for Brito, we go way back in early BB days, also Ardent, Ajulio and some of the others. Even though we don't always agree we can still maintain respect and even like each other. Brito does bring good info and discussion, & I know he can bump heads but I feel he is a good thing for BB. My asking about Santiago was a serious question about something I am very interested in. WHatever is between you and Brito, frankly I don't know about and don't want to. Paz, Chivis

Anonymous said...

Zetas tried and failed Michoacan kicked them the fuck out and remember when Sinaloa tried that on the Zetas the Z had them running back to Chapo and Arturo Beltran so let's just imagine what would happen to Sinalos

Anonymous said...

all these chapo nut huggers will regret pissing off Michoacan those men are the real deal they kill Zetas like crazy

Anonymous said...

People thing cds is stronger because of the army and federal police fighting all they're battles but a straight up fight no army or fp we all know the Zetas, Beltran, Juarez, Caballeros would whoop they're ass

Anonymous said...

What do you mean failed?? They controled los valencia there so the michoacanos joined los zetas and created la familia to oust the CDS. They where tired of getting bitch slapt by CDS so they joined los zetas, they wanted to control the state so they used los zetas then they ousted them, that I don't dispute but to say they are stronger than CDS is just plain ignorance of how things really are and most people who follow this whole mess know whats really going on. Im sure your from michoacan so you will say that your the biggest and baddest but your just living in fantasy im sorry to burst your bubble people.

Anonymous said...

Caballeros Templarios or LFM is most likely the least powerful out of all the cartels,simply because they dont even control any border city,entrance into the United States.

Anonymous said...

CT distributes tru all the borders that's what separates them from all the cartels, michoacan is michoacan

Anonymous said...

Finally someone whit some comon sence my goodnes lol.

Anonymous said...

They still perate in Tijuana Reynosa

Anonymous said...

February 9, 2012 11:24 AM ,Cowardly old fart,"i haven't got an opinion either way".Did you really think you would get an answer from the suck-holes?
This shit gettin worse with these idiots,we are going to have to stat a clique of our own,to the exclusion of these sycophantic clowns who think this blog is their own property.Not friendly,not cool.

Anonymous said...

ALL YOU DUM FUCKS THAT SAY CT IS BIGGER THAN CJNG ARE SMOKING TO MUCH CRYSTAL. CJNG HAVE BEEN PUSHING WEIGHT AND KILLING ZETAS WAY BEFORE THERE WAS EVEN LFM. CJNG HAS A PRESENCE IN JALISCO, ZACATECAS, OAXACA, DURANGO, VERACRUZ, MICHOACAN, SINALOA, COLIMA, NAYARIT, GUANAJUATO, TAMAULIPAS, AND HAS RECENTLY ENTERED GUERRERO. ALSO THERE AINT NO STATE IN MEXICO THAT IS FULLY CONTROLLED BY A DTO. NOT EVEN NEUVO LEON BECUASE CDG AND CDS HAS ENTERED NEUVO LEON BEFORE AND WILL CONTINUE TO DO SO.

Anonymous said...

I agree 100 0/0 ! Catholic church ha gods banker .... That's the biggest and most powerful
Cartel! Chapo ain't shit compared to the POpE!

Anonymous said...

I'm not a cartel fan first of all but these CDs ball lickers will be sorry if they goto war with ct if I'm correct when the war on drugs started lfm was at its peak and the first military operation was in michoacan because even the government recognized What they're specially if the don't control a border town now imagine if they did

Anonymous said...

Just cause CDs kills innocents and snitches other cartels out doesn't mean they're stronger

Anonymous said...

Statistically the Michoacan cartels have killed more soldiers/federal police than any other cartel sometimes by double look it up the cartel after them is Zetas and Tijuana is one of the weakest

Anonymous said...

Si guey hahahaha jalisco ain't shit 2 years ago who gave a fuck. About them no one homie the Michoacanos have been on the map for years now and they didn't cry when the zetas came in to michoacan they kicked them the fuck out so relax and Michoacan has one sole owner los Michoacanos puto not like Jalisco who has every fucking cartel in they're. Causing havoc and guess whose in they're. Caballeros Templarios correct me if I'm wrong :) stupid people from jalisco trying to catch fame by saying they the matazetas haahah

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