Reporting on the Mexican Cartel Drug War

Drug kingpin wanted Mexico City attack to retaliate against U.S. crackdown, feds say

Saturday, November 12, 2011 |

BY NATASHA KORECKI/Chicago Sun-Times
http://www.suntimes.com/photos/galleries/8752250-417/drug-kingpin-wanted-mexico-city-attack-to-retaliate-against-us-crackdown-feds-say.html


                       Mugshot of PEDRO FLORES from August 20, 2009


                      Mugshot of MARGARITO FLORES from August 20, 2009

At his mountaintop lair in Mexico, Joaquin “Chapo” Guzman, the head of the world’s biggest narcotics cartel, told a Chicago drug trafficker he wanted dozens of military-grade assault weapons to stage an attack in Mexico City in retaliation against U.S. authorities who were messing with their drug business, federal prosecutors said Thursday.

“This government is letting [American law enforcement] do whatever they want,” said one of Guzman’s lieutenants, Ismael Zambada-Garcia, according to a cooperator in the case, Margarito Flores. “It will be good to send [them] a message.”

“They are f------ us everywhere,” Guzman allegedly said of the government during a meeting on the mountaintop compound. “Let it be a government building, it doesn’t matter whose. An embassy or a consulate, a media outlet or television station [attack a Mexican or U.S. government or media building in Mexico City].”

Guzman remains at large, but is a critical piece of the massive case that’s headed to trial early next year in Chicago — one of the highest-profile drug prosecutions in the nation.

Guzman’s remarks were quoted in the so-called “Santiago Proffer” filed by federal prosecutors Thursday in the wide-reaching case targeting the Sinaloa Cartel. The 63-page filing gives the most detail yet about the case that charges a conspiracy involving the shipment of massive amounts of cocaine and heroin from Mexico into the United States. The newly filed papers show that twin brothers from Chicago — Margarito and Pedro Flores — will be among 10 cooperating witnesses who will testify at trial and that the government has a recorded conversation of Vicente Zambada-Niebla, allegedly asking for follow-up on plans for an explosive retaliation.

Even though Zambada-Niebla’s defense has warned it may not be prepared to begin trial in February, U.S. District Judge Ruben Castillo has asked parties to aim for that date.

The top DEA official in Chicago has referred to Guzman “as the most dangerous criminal in the world and probably the most wealthy criminal in the world.” Authorities say his cartel has flooded Chicago with marijuana and other drugs — leading the Sun-Times last week to refer to him as “Chicago’s New Scarface.” Guzman remains on the Forbes list as one of the top billionaires in the world. The Sinaloa Cartel is among the warring Mexican drug organizations engaged in gruesome, bloody slayings that together are suspected of tens of thousands of murders in the country.

In Chicago’s drug conspiracy case, allegations here have centered on man who is in custody at Chicago’s Metropolitan Correctional Center — Zambada-Niebla — whom the government describes as a high-ranking leader of the Sinaloa Cartel.

According to the proffer, Zambada-Niebla ordered Margarito Flores to make it a priority to secure weapons and retaliate against the government.

“Twin, you know guys coming back from the war. Find somebody who can give you big powerful weapons, American s---. . . . We don’t need that small s---, I want to blow up some buildings. We got a lot of grenades, we got a lot of .50 calibers, we’re tired of AKs,” Zambada-Niebla allegedly said. “You’re good with me. You want to be really good with me, get me my s---, my guns. F--- the money, f--- the drugs, I want to blow s--- up. I want some bazookas, some grenade launchers.”

At the time, Flores had already been cooperating. He reported the conversation to a DEA agent. Authorities then recorded a call between Margarito Flores and Zambada-Niebla on Nov. 29, 2008, where they discuss the plot further, according to court papers. The government, however, then does not allege any further action with regard to a plot to blow up a building.

Zambada-Niebla’s attorney said Thursday any comment on the new filings would come in a defense court filing. Zambada-Niebla has leveled a series of charges against the United States, including that he had been cooperating with U.S. agents when they turned around and charged him.

The Flores brothers, who are in custody, had done business with two warring drug cartels, authorities have said. Each cartel threatened the Flores brothers with violence if they did business with the other, according to the charges. The brothers approached authorities in 2008 and offered their cooperation.

Contributing: Frank Main

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64 Borderland Beat Comments:

Anonymous said...

Sounds like some bullshit to me.

Anonymous said...

U DON'T WANT TO FUX WITH USA PERIOD UR LIL ASS WILL LOSE 100% PERCENT OF THE TIME..

Anonymous said...

Why would Chapo want to bring that kind of attention? Made up shit so it really gets the U.S. involved. Chapo probably knew this guys were no good so he prolly pump it up to see if he was right. Government already knows he is dealing drugs. So that won't make a case. Blowing up shit stir it up a lil now you know where the leak is at. Smart!

Anonymous said...

Who wrote this? The Zetas? or maybe the Juarez Cartel.. Chapo has said it himself, you don't want to kill the Chicken that Lays Golden Eggs.. He is not Bin Laden, he is not some terrorist that wants to destroy America. He is a businessman, a businessman that wants to put crystal meth on the hands of mid west kids, marijuana on the hands of kids of the west coast, and heroin and cocaine on the hands of east coast kids... He is like Steve Jobs, a really horrible one that makes billions out of drugs and murders, but he is not a terrorist.

Anonymous said...

The article is talking about Vincent Zambada wanting to blow shit up - not Chapo. Can you read English or are you just dim?

Texcoco said...

I honestly think this is a big pile of bull shit. As far as I know or as far as I have read El Chapo is not the type of person that will go against the government like that. Don't get me wrong he is a killer, but I don't think he will be so stupid to provoked the government to go after him with more enthusiasm.

Anonymous said...

This is one of the stupidest things I have read.

Anonymous said...

The Chapo fans are all butt hurt and in denial. Yes your "kingpin" is a terrorist. How else did he get so much power? By handshakes, pats on the back, and sending flower bouqets to rival dealers? This cartel like any other cartel deals in terror everyday. They intimidate the public and govt officials so that they can operate. I guess shooting a cop is an act of kindness in Mexico? It dosen't become an act of terror untl you put a grenade up his ass and blow him up near a school or govt building? Some are gonna argue about the definition of terror and what not. The fact is the people are scared and they are the victims here not the cartels for being "mislabeled"...

Anonymous said...

"makes billions out of drugs and murders, but he is not a terrorist." WTF?? What do you think the terrorists do? They make money, a lot of money off drugs and murders, too. Think Afghanistan, poppy fields grown by farmers who are paid by Al Quada. I know what you are trying to get at because Chapo in the end is about money and the Muslim assholes are in it because of some bullshit book written by psychos in the times of dirt. But murder in and of itself is terror in its definition. The people in Mexico live with terror every day, and thats sad. I can't for the life of me understand why they feel that destroying their country will help with their efforts, but then again, they are Mexican.

Anonymous said...

Someone should post the 63 page proffer. Besides the brothers there are 7 other witnesses, no audio of these alleged comments directly. The brothers are also witnesses in another big trial in Chicago against a former police officier that "proffer" is available on line over 200 pages. The pacific guys lost over 30 million in cash & over 5 tons, confiscated by police or ripped off by crooked cops/ stick up crews! BLO and mayo, chapo all lost money with this crew.

Windy city kid

Anonymous said...

classic case of playing on both sides of the fence & biting the hand that feeds you.these two morons are gonna live looking over their shoulder for the rest of their misyrable lives.dont forget,a coward dies a 1000 times!!

Anonymous said...

I'm not buying that Chapo would say that.

If he had he's been snorting too much of that crap he sells.

For any narco cartel leader, turn this war and start targeting Americans or any US installations just ask Osama Bin Laden how well did that work out for them, and millions of muslims, Japanese, Koreans, Vietnamese, or Iraquis.

Buena suerte con eso.

John said...

November 12, 2011 12:53 PM:

I will get the documents off PACER and post them if they are available. I've been following the Flores brothers case since it was first indicted and have been waiting for proceedings to start. There is a SHITLOAD of related cases in Illinois and elsewhere.

Anonymous said...

If this is true, Chapo's end is near...if it is bullshit, someone else's end is near.

J said...

lol I always thought Vicente would sound much more refined then that.


To John, if I post a request, can you look something up for me?

Anonymous said...

@John

Cool it would be interesting to read. There is also a rumor that their father was kidnapped in Sinaloa in 09 and nobody has heard of him since, all that was left on his car was shut up or we'll send u his head.

Windycity kid

Anonymous said...

The Flores brothers may have flipped but they know they are sitting ducks. They and there family, you just don't spill the beans on the big players like that. They must have their whole family in protective custody. Chicago is filled with Chapos and Mayos people.

Anonymous said...

Karma is a bitch. That's what happens when you go around snitching on everyone and giving up your own people just to cool down your plazas.

Anonymous said...

1:14 PM your one stupid as person, ask osama? it took the US ten years to find him.

Anonymous said...

Juarez cartel controls most drug sales in Chicago. Why does this suprise anybody Chapo would do this & pin the blame on the zetas like has before on other things

USAwantsIN said...

Oh my God, I call MAJOR BULLSHIT on this! Read between the lines. Something big will go down soon in Mexico to finally make the bomb go off for the freakin gringos to come through!

Anonymous said...

at 2:44, Chapo and the Beltranes controlled Chicago. There is a rumor that they went to war for that city.

Anonymous said...

bullshit

Anonymous said...

Flores brothers moved 2tons of coke a month for el chapo in chicago. They had high rank and once worked for los beltranes.

Anonymous said...

This sounds like BS. If it were true the US Gov would have done something about it ASAP but they didnt. Now they bring this up in a time when fear mongering is at its peak. Ooooo the Mexican boogey man is gonna cross the boarder and kill white ppl. (im white btw) This is bad for business and no one in their right mind that is doing bad shit is gonna want to have that much heat on them. Did Madoff ever cause attention? No and he got away with over 50 billion before they jailed his ass. Bottom line not smart for any type of business.

Anonymous said...

i can tell you who's terrorist, the US government is, por que inventan guerras y matan inocentes alrededor del mundo solo para saciar su necesidad de poder. dont talk shieet about other people americans primero veanse en un espejo y veran a un autentico terrorista.. bye..

Anonymous said...

I couldnt help not laughing when i read the line fuk the money fuk the drugs i want to blow shit up LOL come on this is like those stories on the penthouse forums its just a good entertaining read but its not really true facts these kind of stories are the "Once upon a time" stories hahahaaha

Anonymous said...

Unfortunately this is whats considered journalism with the local rags that call themselves newspapers here in chicago. Anything is written to make a dime like the inquirer. I've never met or talked to vicente zambada but he doesn't come across as talking the way he is quoted. Besides they (the cartels) already have bazookas and grenade launchers. Just look at how many have been seized. The US is the last place where they would seek those type of weapons knowing its easier to get them from china, guatemala, or mexico.

Anonymous said...

Saddams weapons of mass destruction must be in Sinaloa

John said...

@November 12, 2011 1:35 PM:

Yes, I'll get the documents for you as long as it's not thousands of pages or something since it costs money per page viewed. But if the case is interesting I'll get them anyway probably, I got thousands of documents from various major drug cases since around 1990.

Anonymous said...

@john

Yeah about 10 cents a page viewed last I checked. Alot of them big cases read like a good true crime book.

@ 6:37 The reporters just go off what they read off court papers on PACER. Anyone that has experience reading up on cases will know that the GOV always exaggerates how much money is made & how much weight is moved.

Windycity kid

J said...

John, the indictments related to an Iraqi/Sinaloa criminal organization, in San Diego, a few months back. 'Operation Shadow Box', KPBS and other news sites published one indictment, but I'd like to read the rest. Thanks.

Anonymous said...

Do you hear that? I do? It's the sound of the war drums beating again, The cia propaganda spooks are hard at work trying to herd the sheeple into believing we need another tax payer funded war. PURE AND TOTAL LIES. Add this story to the one about Iran hiring the cartel for a hit on U.S soil, And the false story by stratfor, I do salute the BB readers for being smart and calling the story what it is!

John said...

@November 12, 2011 8:14 PM:

Ok, I'll have to wait until Monday because I haven't logged on in a while and when I tried guessing my password it froze me out of my account and I have to call the service center to unfreeze; they aren't open on Sunday, but I'll do it on Monday and see what's up.

The real juicy details are usually in Affidavits filed by the government, or motions to suppress filed by the defense and subsequent government responses to those motions. I'll see if any exist though when I can get logged on again.

Anonymous said...

Lol yeah good luck trying to get military grade weapons in the US.

Anonymous said...

I read this BS article in the Chicago Trbune. These two idiots if Im not mistaken are a couple of gangbangers that did carry weight with the disciples street gangs. they really only threw money around thats why they got caught. Both these guys weren't shit couldn't fight for shit but the could move keys. who is the Gov. kidding these guys were scared of their own shadow. By the way visted Juarez last week and heard lots CDS corridos pounding out of cars. Guess its not hard figuring out who is winning the war in Jtown. Even in chuco Aztecas aren't visible as last yr. The Clubbing seen has picked quite a bit since my last vist in July.

Anonymous said...

IS there any good stuff you already have from PACER you may want to post?

Anonymous said...

this pair of clowns fucked theirs off handsomely,& now they just want to convince the justice dpmt that their info is worth the tax-payers $ to keep them & their families alive.in the end its going to blow up in the face of the prosecutors.if you've followed vicente zambadas carreer you'll see the reason he was given some elbow space to work along the big dogs.the guy was a business man,not some trigger happy gangbanger out of chitown.these jackasses have no idea how bad theyre going to have it.you can run & think youre going to hide...but not for long!

Anonymous said...

"ITS CHESS NOT CHECKERS"
U DONT GO @ BLOWIN BUILDINGS UP AND EXPECT EVERYTHING 2 BE FINE AND DANDY! HELL NAHH THEY WILL COME GET U 4 REAL,ASK BIN LADIN! U DONT BRING HEAT ! U WORK @ IT! AND GO UNNOTICED AS MUCH AS U CAN AND IF IT GETS HOT U DIP OUT AND REGROUP!!!THIS ARTICLE IS MISSPELLED BIG TIME!!!!!!!!JUS SAYIN

Anonymous said...

True fact government=cartel that protects the public from other cartels but only they could fuck you slowly and on the low without the public knowing what really goes down! And power is everything to them SPECIALLY the U.S n I'm a American but anyways
Drug cartel=terrorist kill anybody and anything all that matters is money and power to control the money n drug trade don't care for human life much less for the people they got working for them stay real n fuck everybody what happen to the freedom land world

Anonymous said...

Isn't it interesting that the first step to being officially labeled a world terrorist is to first be an official informant/cooperative for the US government?
Never fails, no matter what country in the last 40 years. Makes me wonder about many things, including the validity of article in the link above.

Anonymous said...

As one of the other posters said,"They always increase the drug size",even someone sellin from the house,street,they make them out to be major movers,and Zambada,wantin to blow shit up.What the fuck for?This is the bangers words,to make them seem more important,funny thing is,you get middle class white agents,who haven't got a fuckin clue about the street,and they get caught up believin this shit.Some don't,but they still don't give a fuck.These brothers will be laughin their fuckin heads off,at some of the shit they sayin.But,people are fuckin sheep,and believe anything.Anyway,they snitchin fuckin rats,you in the game,makin money,get caught,don't take everyone else with you,just cause you got caught,that is a straight up rat bastard trick.THIS BULLSHIT.

Anonymous said...

If these two are the ones that were shot callers in chicago maybe they should go after another shot caller in California. That also works for el chapo guzman in East los angeles that pushes lots of weight also the thing he wanted wantd by so many people they put a price on his head 100 million by other drug dealers for car shooting that occur in 2008. Bb should do research on this too they call him Eddy o El Mago big time guy doing his work for shorty himself...

Anonymous said...

Can I get some insight into the current situation in San Luis potosi. Thank you

Anonymous said...

THESE DUMB YOUNGSTERS TRYING TO GET RICH OVER NIGHT THINK THAT THEM CARTEL TERRORISTS WILL NEVER FORCE THEM OR OBLIGATE THEM TO TAKE PART IN THEIR HEINOUS ACTS OF VIOLENCE ARE SO FULL OF CRAP... WHEN YOU CONTRIBUTE TO AN EVIL EMPIRE LIKE THOSE ANIMALS THE REALITY IS THAT YOU HAVE NO SAYING TO WHAT THEY WILL MAKE YOU DO OR USE YOU FOR... WAKE UP PEOPLE AND STOP SERVING THOSE EVIL EMPIRES. MAY GOD BE WITH ALL THOSE U.S. CITIZEN YOUNG MEN AND FAMILIES SLAVED IN BONDAGE TO THOSE CRIMINAL NETWORKS OF DESTRUCTION.

Anonymous said...

So,,,how do we make peace? I see it coming and I almost orgasm from thinking about it. We have the power to do such. Nobody owns our names nor our lives.

Anonymous said...

A popular Mexican Singer and interpreter of many narco corridos,which mostly praises at Chapo Guzman and his Cartel,was murdered in Culiacan and no it isnt Arley Perez,its Diego Rivas,he was murdered by a an armed comando.

Anonymous said...

8 42 el compa eddy. I dont know much about him. What do u know about him

Anonymous said...

I think this article is fake, just an excuse for the government to get into Mexican territory and involving innocent persons! thanks!

Anonymous said...

942 lots of things hes like the twin brothers from chicago but big time el chapo guzman worker pusging lots of weight he controls all of california

Anonymous said...

Con esa cara de marikones que tienen esos dos en vez de mover dos tons de coka yo creo movian carritos en wal mart. Pero al final son gringos y en la historia siempre se ha visto que los gringos son traidores de nacimiento... byeee.

Anonymous said...

Jajajajaja 2tons.al chapo lo quieren frito y ya ,por todo el pedo del vicentillo que es lo mas seguro.

Anonymous said...

If Chapo starts attacking US buildings he will be labelled a terrorist and the CIA and US military will start treating them like terrorist rather than criminals.

I relish the day when we have a real US president who sends US Marines to clean out these scum bags and kill them all. We should have done it in Columbia. Fuck El Chapo!, hes nothing but a bitch ass coward.

Anonymous said...

@6:37 hey you idiot guns are illegal in Mexico.. The cartels get all their guns from the US you dumb phuk..

Anonymous said...

Proffer is up online now google it

Anonymous said...

I am so sick of you people that don't know what in the hell you are talking about!!! you think because you read the paper or the internet you are up to speed!!! El Chapo and his son they are like a cancer and and feed on people these two people are putting there lives on the line, as for there families to stop these two... drugs will never stop unless we have everyone on the inside. So believe me i know what i am talking about.. so unless you live it pray for them and there families, and yes i can say El Chapo and his son are nothing without money and yes they are coward bitches...

Anonymous said...

Can you all leave god.... out of this...

MrX said...

I would probably blame my mom if it was my ass! Bunch of bull made up by the government to apprehend Guzman, Loera so Obama can get re-elected.Who is the real bad guy here! Shame on u American government!

MrX said...

I would probably blame my mom if it was my ass! Bunch of bull made up by the government to apprehend Guzman, Loera so Obama can get re-elected.Who is the real bad guy here! Shame on u American government!

Anonymous said...

somethings weird with these so called tape recordings....I hate conspiracys, FYI the father of the twin brothers was kidnapped and chopped into pieces

Anonymous said...

Aha Do u even kno who el chapo is? PENDEJO

Anonymous said...

El eddy oh el Mago es mi compa. dont mention Him much.

Anonymous said...

El eddy is a good person WHO is smart.

Anonymous said...

It wasnt his fault. hrs the compa i wouldnt talk Like that about him

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