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Killers Leave a Message to Police Chiefs

Wednesday, October 19, 2011 |

From the Forum
By Texcoco

Mazatlán, Sinaloa - In less than 24 hours another woman, who is yet to be identified, was found dead. This time a body was found early in the morning at about 0048 hours on the street José María Morelos in the cummunity of Hogar del Pescador..

This is the second execution of a woman in the area in less than 24 hours.

Next to the body, the killers left a white cardboard with the following message:

"THIS IS GOING TO HAPPENED TO ALL THE HALCONES THAT SUPPORT GENTE NUEVA AND WATCH YOUR BACK FEDERAL POLICE AND ELITES CHUY TONO AND POLANCO, YOU ARE ON THE LIST OF ZETAS AND BELTRANES "

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42 Borderland Beat Comments:

J said...

Zeta/Beltran's are really making a push/ making a mess in Sinaloa. I wonder how this will play in the next few months.

Anonymous said...

Any bets that Tono and Polanco are not long for this world. They are moving in on Chapo's plaza. It is about to get real hot. This is why the feds are biting at the ankles of the Zetas so hard in Veracruz. They want them to back off Chapo. Chapo is up against someone that has nothing to lose. That makes for a tough enemy.

Anonymous said...

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Anonymous said...

When is chapo going to decide to clean up sinaloa?

Anonymous said...

The Z's and Beltran alliance is not strong enough to take down Chapo and Mayo. They may be able to kill a defenseless halcone but they aren't really taking out anybody of real importance to the organization. Not to say this womans life isn't worth anything, it's a tragedy. But sadly for CDS or any cartel she is replaceable. Mazatlan still has Beltran supporters, that is why the inflitration of Z's has been allowed. CDS has not been able to clean up that plaza because they have never fully owned it since the federation split. It's a never ending story there.

Anonymous said...

Zetas and Beltranes can go to hell

Anonymous said...

LOL< looks like Chapo better bring the Mata Zetas to his house. How funny.

Anonymous said...

Los Beltran nunca van a poder hacer una ofensiva mas fuerte de la que hizo Arturo Beltran en su momento, ademas ese wey mantuvo a los Zetas fuera de Sinaloa. Hector fue el que aflojo las nalgitas al dejar que La Plaga entrara a Sinaloa, ademas de que abandono a su mujer cuando lo nesecitaba. Es una lacrita en toda la extencion de la palabra.

Anonymous said...

Haha its funny I laugh at some comments posted on here.Alot of people are really clueless to whats really happening in Mexico.Currently right now Beltran Leyvas and Zeta & La Linea gunmen are contesting Sinaloa from Chapo Guzman,and if you were to go to many cities of Sinaloa such as Sinaloa de Leyva,Guasave,Mazatlan,Los Mochis and asked around or just hear their conversation with others you would know Chapo Guzman doesnt run Shit,actually its said Mochomo is still calling the shots from prison.Also Zetas are for the most parts supporting Beltran Leyvas Mainly in Mazatlan(Southern Sinaloa),up in Northern Sinaloa El Chapo Isidro is holding it down.Carlos Beltran Leyva was arrested in Culiacan,Sinaloa the capital,also Hector already claimed Mazatlan Sinaloa as his plaza,also North Sinaloa in narcomantas directed at Chapo Guzman,Mayo Zambada and the public.


I think you guys didnt know that Chapo Guzman Is basically losing the state of Sinaloa.

Anonymous said...

@6:18, yeah, but you also need to consider that the Beltranes have been fighting Chapo since the beginning of 2008. Its been four years since the split of the Beltranes and Chapo happened. Since then, the Beltranes lost Carlos, Arturo, and Mochomo (who you may argue did not have a chance bc chap turned him in before he had a chance to do something about it), they also some of their lieutenants like Barbie, El Grande, El Indio, and some lower members like El Negro, El Gaucho, El Centauro. When you also add the fact that some of the other members decided to start their own group like JJ, Las Manos Con Ojos and others.
I know that a lot of them were not killed by Chapo or by the govt, but that group is a shadow of it former self.. The Z like them bc they know how to move high quantity of drugs, something they cannot do.
Can they beat Sinaloa? very unlikely. Can it cause an inconvenience? yes, they can..
Right after Mochomos capture, Arturo decided to send some of its groups into Sinaloa to kill Chapo's people. They succeeded in killing, his son, and some other members.. They did not get too far, before Ondeado got a hold of them and chopped them up into pieces..
Here is a video of el gaucho, he was sent into Chapos territory to assassinate certain members.
http://www.metatube.com/es/videos/40493/Israel-Rincon-Martinez-gente-de-Mochomo-en-Culiacan/

Anonymous said...

Mazatlan is still up for grabs. With so many plazas up for grab in sinaloa its hard for any one group to dominate. Beltranes are well intrenched and so are chapos people. Chapo and mayo are safer in dgo, that's prob why they hide out there. Esta cabron

Anonymous said...

October 20, 2011 6:18 PM I think you guys didn't know that Chapo Guzman Is basically losing the state of Sinaloa.

Yes sure says the guy who thinks Mochomo is calling the shots from prison.

Anonymous said...

@6:18 Las zonas que mencionaste son controladas por los Beltran. No tiene chiste, como vas a decir que el Chapo esta perdiendo Sinaloa si solo mencinas partes que siempre han estado controlando ellos, haber menciona un municipio que le hayan arrebatado al Chapo? al contrario el refuego se esta haciendo en Mazatlan, Los Mochis y Navolato, zonas de ocupacion de gente ajena al Chapo, bueno Navolato ya ni tanto.

Anonymous said...

7 52 cuales ciudades son del mayo y chapo

Anonymous said...

@ 7:52 Por eso,es lo que digo la cosa esta pareja,y se inclina un poco a los Beltran con el apoyo de Lascano pa que nos hacemos mensos,esos Zetas tienen Sicarios hasta por el culo tengo o no tengo razon?

Anonymous said...

@7:05 Whats so unusual about a Mexican Drug Lords calling the shots from a Mexican prison? Osiel Cardenas for example did that until he got extradited,and if im not wrong El Mochomo has been locked up in Jalisco for three years,and so far no extradition.I wonder why?

Anonymous said...

@6:49 Most of what you said was right,but an inconvinience??????? Haha I think Beltran and Zetas and more allies together can do something a little bit more than an inconvinience,,maybe its just me.

Anonymous said...

@7:02 yeah you said something very true "Chapo and Mayo are safer in Dgo,thats probably why they hide there".

Anonymous said...

Chapo never could conquer tamaluipas, michoacan, juarez tijuana,veracruz guerrero so many but hey he can try but he dont suceed. many that he couldnt beat he joined smart but them z are pieces of s@#t but are hard to kill you kill 1 and 10 enlist chapo cant clean his own house cant even live there thats why hes in durango.

Anonymous said...

@8:06 pm Who says the Zeta-Beltran alliance is not strong enough??,,You???

Im only going by facts its been almost 4 years and neither side seems to be giving up,I dont see Sinaloa Cartel advancing,if so what new plaza have they won?????Or took away from Beltran or Zetas????Im curious to what you will reply haha

Anonymous said...

@6:49 Yeah youre right,pero no me salgas con que el odeado esto y otro,si el propio Arturo Beltran (disque el que ordeno matar a su hijo),lo cito varias veces no mas que el odeado se le hice cabron haha,y el odeado nunca vengo a su hijo, si Arturo fue el quien deveras ordeno matarlo,porque el Ondeado nunca mato a Arturo,les recuerdo que fueron mas de doscientos hombres.Nombre ese ondeando nunca le hubiera llegado,y nunca le llego.

Anonymous said...

@9:45. El Ondeado is a weird character.. His name says it all "someone that is not completely there", I don't know exactly what happened on the ground, maybe you can tell me more, but from what I read and saw on the videos. It seems like he killed all the cells that were sent to kill Chapos people, am I wrong? just asking, not trying to start a dumb and senseless debate. But I am sure that Ondeado would have been scared if he had to go toe to toe against Arturo.. Arturo was a bad mofo, but his addiction destroyed him and his org, he had some tough guys in his crew.. I heard his elite group, Los FEDA (fuerzas especiales de arturo) were good at killing enemies.
So I would doubt Ondeado refused to meet Arturo in person, even La Barbie (who worked for Arturo) feared for his life every time he had to talk to him..
What I am getting to, is that now with Arturo gone, it seems really hard for them (Beltranes) to take on Chapo. Yes they have the Z, but no one likes Z.. It seems like he was the force that kept the group together, and now that he is gone, the group is breaking up into small groups and factions.
By the way, do you know who really killed Manuel Mendez Leyva? Was it Ondeado? or El Grande? Ive read conflicting reports..

Anonymous said...

October 20, 2011 9:29 PM Come on men, you are talking about Cardenas, that was before Calderon, since Calderon a lot of things have change. Mexico is still facing a lot of corruption and have a lot of problems with the criminal system, but since 2006 I don't think a capo can run a criminal group from inside prison. Look at what happened to Barbie's people, they broke apart, and the Beltran's are not even half of what they were before.

Anonymous said...

@10:47 pm Most likely el mata amarrado del Ondeado,bcuz on the interrogation video Manuel Mendez mentioned a war against Chapo,if it would of been El Grade the interrogation video would probably been different.Also El Ondeado has not managed to kill every cell that Arturo sent,or already had in Sinaloa,I dont know where you heard that from? Beltran leyvas still operate in Culiacan.

Anonymous said...

@9:45
Who has been the most succesfull cartel since 2008? It has been Chapo and Mayo. They have moved the most weight and have accumulated the most paper. Let's not talk about the past because all that is, is the past. The Beltranes back when they had Arturo and were still a highly powerful organization were top dogs with Chapo and Mayo. But since their downfalls they needed to align with Z's to combat their territories. Do they keep pushing weight, of course. But if we are talking about who right now has the funds and more people in their pocket it's CDS with Chapo, Mayo y El Azul. I only mentioned that Sinaloa had some plazas that are still being disputed because Beltran's still have loyal fractions. But it's all about who has been the most succesful in pushing weight, because that is what counts for these cartels. Greed and money mi amigo. The Z's may be ruthless but they are not as wealthy as CDS and Beltrans may still have paper but it isn't what it once was.

Anonymous said...

El Ondeado and Arturo did have a nasty nasty dispute. Their hatred was to death. Arturo the kingpin and el Ondeado el sanginario. But for those who don't understand and comprehend. Manuel Torres may have been just a chump in your eyes but he and his brother have been in the game for decades. El JT was el Mayos right hand man since the 90's. They have paper and apoyo to do alot of things. Reason why el M1 is still around. I would say el M1 won that battle because he is still alive, may be borrowed time who knows but he still is vivito y contento.

Anonymous said...

@11:37, I am talking about the initial groups sent to take on Chapo, the ones that killed Chapo's son, Nacho's son, La Puerca's son. Ever since then, the Beltranes haven't killed any close family members or CDS high ranking members. I don't know if it was Ondeado or not, but it does seem that he took the killing of these men personal, again, they killed his son..
I know that there are still some people backing the Beltranes in Chapos territory, but they don't have the power they once had.
Like I said, I make these conclusions from what I read here, or in BDN and other sites... I am not 100% sure of what is really going on in the ground..

Anonymous said...

Who cares who's winning, your "ALL" a bunch of "LOSERS" just look in the mirror!!!!!!!

Anonymous said...

Curiosity has alwasy swirled as who really killed Chapos son. Was it Beltranes hitmen? Some say it was mistaken identity by CDS hitmen on Chapos son by Mayos and Macho Prietos own guys. Supposedly the plaza was super heated at that time and no ones family was suppose to be in town without the Capos knowing so they were to let their hitmen know and watch over them. Chapos son didn't tell him he was going to town with the other guy he was with. They arrived in a flashy new truck and bam they were lit up. Who actually did it supposedly has paid the price. All folks tales unless you actually know.

Anonymous said...

October 21, 2011 11:37 AM Yes it was the Beltranes, thats why as a favor to Chapo, Nacho's people kidnapped and killed Arturo Beltran's son and in return Hector's people kidnapped and killed Nacho's son.

Anonymous said...

CHAPOS GOES 2 UR HOUSE AND KNOCKS OFF 35 ,SO THEN U COME TO SINALOA AND KILL 1 WOMAN WHO WAS A MEESLI LOOKOUT! SPEECHLESS.....

Anonymous said...

@6:06 I dont know if you read the comments or not but its obvious very few are referring to the article about the halcona being killed,most comments are staying on topic somewhat,but referring to questions many have asked themselves.In other word all in all,Overall in the state of Sinaloa,which Beltran Leyvas seem to have an upper hand on like theyve had for years.Yeah Chapos Mata Zetas killed supposibly 30 Zetas in Veracruz (in my opinion half of them innocent)but if you wanna go there, last year Beltran Leyva and Zeta Gunmen killed 20 somethin im not too sure how many it was in Tubutama,Sonora and not to long ago this year they killed 30 chapos in Nayarit,and yes they were all chapo sicarios that were seen patrolling the streets that dont belong to them,and they were immiediately confronted.The video and pictures of the dead splattered bodies of sicarios laying next to their armed cars,and one of them you could see got his head ranned over by Beltran Zeta sicarios after the gunfight,believed to be the leader of the Comando who invaded on behalf of El Chapo could be seen on Youtube.

Anonymous said...

@8:08 haha Arturo the Kingpin and El Ondeado el Sanguinario?,why dont you be more realistic and stop boosting your icon El Ondeado.It should of been more like Arturo the Cartel Boss vs El Ondeado one of the leaders of Sicarios for El Mayo Zambada.No comparison.

At the end we never got to see who won between these two,since Arturo was ratted out by his Lugarteniente La Barbie,and it took 200 marines,and plus army soldiers to take him down,but both of them were, or in this case of El Ondeado,are,very ballsy.

Both of them offered to meet up and handle it,Arturo first in a narcomanta,then El Ondeado.Both killed alot of each others people,Arturo killed El Ondeados son,and Three of his nieces as well as other people working for him.El Ondeado killed his close friend El Centauro and alot of his people.

Its ackward really,the nickname "El Ondeado" was given to him by Arturo Beltran, back when they were both part of the Sinaloa Cartel,it is unknown what caused Arturo Beltran to kill El Ondeados son??????,(theres rumors about Vicente Carillo Fuentes asking Arturo for that favor,since a huge comboy of the Sinaloa Cartel entered Navolato Sinaloa and picked up and killed Vicentes Carillos Mom).

Either way the final showdown never went down,and its a shame because it would of been awesome to see this two got at it.

I personally think Arturo would of whooped his ass,but then again theres people that disagree.

Anonymous said...

They found another 11dead zetas today. Cds really brought the hammer to veracruz

Anonymous said...

Just like rabid dogs, eventually they will all die, in the streets they thought they controlled, and like the animals they all are. Hope they wipe each other all out. Better for the poor Mexican People to be without these blood sucking pieces of "Cago"

Anonymous said...

EL VICENTE "RATA" ZAMBADA fue que ordeno la muerte del CHAPULIN EDGAR GUZMAN...Porque los inutiles tenian pedos entre ellos dos. Y EL RATA ZAMBADA sabia que EL CHAPULIN EDGAR andaba de compras y por eso fue y le dio en su madre. EL CULO PRIETO fue que disparo la bazooka y perdio el tiro el pendejo...Cuando paso esta mamada, EL CHAPO-MONTA PERROS sabia quien lo mato y hablo con EL MIADO. Le dijo si no entregas al RATA ZAMBADA alos federales lo Iva a matar..

Pues que casualidad que atrapan al RATA en el DF???...que no???..y poreso anda LA RATA ZAMBADA que no aya la puerto quemando al CHAPULIN-MONTA PERROS....

Algo que no saben ustedes pinches chismosos EL CHAPULIN y EL MIADO SE odian a muerte, tambien les digo que estan en guerra entre ellos pero no dicen nada....

Si EL COLORES estuviera vivo EL CHAPULIN y EL MIADO estuvieran colgados en un puente de Tijuana sin Cabezas!...jajaja

Anonymous said...

Where was EL UNDIDO cuando RAMON ARELLANO was stalking Mexico???....lol

LuciferKilla said...

@7:52 he was scared shitless Ramon Arellano Felix was a psycho who didn't care who was against him el ondeada is nothing more than a paisa who got rich off of being a snitch for CDS

Anonymous said...

Pinche Luciferkiller tienes toda la razon gueyyy,la neta.Arriva El CAF Y los Beltran ALV y toda la alianza!!

Anonymous said...

Macho's ppl killed chapo's son

Anonymous said...

Ustedez estan pendejos arturo was a bitch n vicente carrillo iz too n yall.kno it nachito went down like a sav not like arturo hasta lo violaron los marinez

Anonymous said...

Finally some common sense...el viejon sigue vivo. And yes C.U has taken key plazas from rival cartels for example juarez, thats why it been so calm the past couple of yeara, its under the watchful eye of LA RANA and AQUILES.

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