Reporting on the Mexican Cartel Drug War

12 Zetas, 1 Marine killed in Falcon lake Gunbattle

Monday, May 9, 2011 |

CNN

Twelve suspected members of the Zetas drug gang and a member of Mexico's Navy were killed in a shootout on an island in a lake that straddles the U.S.-Mexico border, authorities said Monday.

The Mexican Navy said the shootout occurred Sunday on Falcon Lake, located between Texas and the Mexican state of Tamaulipas, after troops patrolling the area spotted a camping area on an island.

The suspected drug traffickers used the island for storing marijuana to be transported by boat to the United States, the Navy said in a statement.
After the shootout, the Navy said it seized guns, ammunition and bullet-proof vests from the island.

Falcon Lake drew the attention of law enforcement authorities on both side of the border last September after an American man on a personal watercraft was reportedly ambushed by attackers and shot in the head.

Tiffany Hartley told police that she and her husband were riding water scooters on the lake on September 30 when they were attacked.

Her husband's body has not been found, and the case has remained unsolved.

"It didn't happen in the United States," said Zapata County, Texas, Sheriff Sigifredo Gonzalez.

And Mexican authorities, he told CNN last month, have "somewhat of a zero solvency rate, and a zero conviction rate."

"So unfortunately, this case may remain open forever, even though the information and the evidence may be there," according to Gonzalez.
 



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Layla2 said...

And guess where the road ends at the bottom of Falcon Lake? Guerrero, Mier and Miguel Aleman.

Anonymous said...

RIP Sailor.....that is one Marine too many. The Navy should of just torched that place from above once they were identified as hostiles. Now to the weapons....yes you can buy a Barret .50 in the US but an FN MiniMi (SAW gun with bipod)??? No way!!! I am also getting tired of these peace walkers saying that the US is not "fighting" the war on drugs. I ask them to check any South Texas news channel website and search drug seizures and arrests. The seizures are in the thousands(pounds). Arrests are increasing. And the last time I checked, many crackheads, potheads, and snorters are picked up and jailed everyday for even the slightest infraction or mere possession of paraphernalia. That's a hell of a lot more than some murderers will go through in Mexiraqigstan....
RAM

Ardent said...

There is a much better article about this incident in the McAllen newspaper. In that report we find that there were no injured SUPPOSED Zetas, just dead ones. Why was that? Anybody curious about why there were no injuries, all just dead people?

Actually this stinks of how the Mexican government, police, and military always seem to handle high profile cases. Tiffany Hartley's husband was murdered so killing 12 Mexicans for the US press should show how very very responsive Mexico is, I guess?

Of course, the dead were executed just like that. It's this type of no human rights observed mindset that creates the criminal class, that then supposedly this get tough and kill 'em approach c'law' enforcement is supposed to solve. Or does it?

Anonymous said...

Hey Ardent...no reason for anyone to be on that rock unless they're up to no good. You want to play...you better be ready to pay. The Mexican judicial system is so over stressed, these guys would have been back on the streets in a week. Good riddance.

Anonymous said...

@Ardent,

Yo bonehead, the article says "shootout!" BTW, one Mexican Marine was killed during the SHOOTOUT! Are you suggesting the Mexican Navy killed one of their own too, in an effort to make it appear like it was a shootout? Give us a break with your wild conspiracy theories. Your comments suggest the Mexican gov't murdered twelve Mexican citizens to satisfy an unsolved murder involving an American? The only thing that "stinks" is your absurd comment, as usual.

Anonymous said...

Ardent... I sympathize with your views of human rights and justice, hell, I've fought for those rights....
But civil guarantees were made to protect the oppressed people from the government, from unjustified prosecution and denial of basic freedoms like moving freely through ones country or engaging in any lawful recreation one might please.

Twelve assholes holed up on an island with Squad Automatic weapons and a fifty are NOT an oppressed people, they ARE the oppressors....they ARE the takers of freedom..., of life itself!!!

These assholes deny the Mexican people their God given rights....to live, first and foremost, to be happy, to raise a family, to sleep well at night...all that you and me enjoy in the US.....ALL THAT, is taken from them.

I am with you that Human rights should be observed and I will stand with you if you should decide to fight for such rights......

But these and all the other motherfuckers that are doing this to Mexico and her people stopped being human in my book a long time ago.
RAM

Anonymous said...

Ardent, do you work for the cartel or what? You are always ready to blame the U.S., law enforcement, the American public, but never do you say anything detrimental about the gangs, cartel, or the Mexican citizens? Let me get this right, so far you want to legalize drugs, have open immigration to the U.S. and prosecute the border patrol, and Mexican Army. Right? How were the rights of the murdered victims respected? kill them all, and kill them fast.
you are a pathetic, whining, pothead. I think you just want the prices to go down on your fav smoke.

Ardent said...

With a comment like the 'good riddance' one here on BB multiplied hundreds of thousand times over, we can see just how easy it is for the Mexican authorities to fake 'enforcement' of laws by simply killing off whomever however. It's one of the reasons that the killings of hundreds upon hundreds of women went on through all the years in Juarez, since each and every time the Mexican cops claimed to have caught the responsible ones, they merely had some fall guy dope or other they were able to fake to the press as supposedly being the bad guys.

Meanwhile they police allowed the crime wave to spread on and increase its number of victims year after year. In fact, there is plenty of evidence all along that it was police themselves behind the femocidal crimes there in Juarez.

All these US Right Wing Anonymoes need to go back and watch some of the old Westerns made back in the '50s and '60s. There, too, there were always in the scripts a group of AnonyMoes being manipulated to string up some innocent or other in the name of 'law enforcement' that wasn't really that at all. The AnonyMoes of today seem to have learned nothing at all from history...

Anonymous said...

Wow look at that FN MINIMI aka M249 SAW. Last time I checked you couldn't even get a variant or replica of that machine gun. They were made after the NFA act meaning CIVILIANS can't own them, the only people who can buy those are LEOs. The most probable place that MG came from is from mexico's LEO/Mil arsenal.

Anonymous said...

Ardent said..." Meanwhile they police allowed the crime wave to spread on and increase its number of victims year after year.In fact, there is plenty of evidence all along that it was police themselves behind the femocidal crimes there in Juarez."

What exactly is a "femocidal" How do you come up with so much bullshit ? You're an arrogant dickhead that just wants to come across as cultured, educated and as a rabid defender of the law with all your wanker posturing and highbrow pseudo academic crap...
So what that if they executed those twelve fukks? US special forces just executed the world's most wanted terrorist, and you know what? If they should run for office, they have my fuking vote, they should be sent down there to fuk those motherfukkers up once and for all !
Have you even heard how many Mexican soldiers and even their entire families have been executed without " due process" ? I guess you were too worried to notice, after all you seem more concerned for the rights of these murderous assholes...And where do you get off speculating that those pricks were "executed" ? Where you at the firefight? Have you ever been in one? And what about all the US law enforcement agents and officers that have died fighting these beasts on our side of the border?
The fact of the matter is that all the narcos, without exceptiont are lower than human shit, they don't care about rights, race or religion !..., they are a homicidal / suicidal cult, they are Nihilists ( you might want to Google that) they kill women, babies, little boys and little girls, old men and women. You cannot reason with them because they have no feelings or emotions. They are sent to kill, they are given a bag of coke and they will kill anyone that keeps them from pleasing their bosses. Although eventually, they themselves will be the stars of their own video as they get quartered and cleaned up. And because they don't serve a purpose to society, they should be done away with when they come into sight... Flame all you want, I don't give a shit. NO way in fuking hell am I going to worry about the rights of any of these subhumans if I run into any of them, I live on the border and I'm not going to wait for any agency to protect me or my family. I am NOT a Tea partier by the way so there goes your argument about rightwingers and all that bullshit you use to justify your self righteousness... Have some common sense if you go down South, don't think that you'll be able to get away just by invoking your rights or better yet, their rights !

Ardent said...

Yeah, executing people without trial is something that Bush and Cheney handed to us, and now Barack, the Mr No Change guy is rubber stamping as dumb donkeys look on tweedle dumbly dumbly.

'So what that if they executed those twelve fukks? US special forces just executed the world's most wanted terrorist, and you know what? If they should run for office, they have my fuking vote, they should be sent down there to fuk those motherfukkers up once and for all !'

And all the USAer Right Winger idiots are now ready and dumbly accepting of this new world with no laws except that of the government death squad. Kill KILL KILL should be the new banner to hang from their US Statue of Lack of Liberty. Give us your suspects and we'll execute them first, and try them in the public press later, and not at all.

'NO way in fuking hell am I going to worry about the rights of any of these subhumans if I run into any of them, I live on the border and I'm not going to wait for any agency to protect me or my family. I am NOT a Tea partier by the way so there goes your argument about rightwingers and all that bullshit you use to justify your self righteousness... '

No doubt, you are a dumb ass Centrist (at best) Democrat who is no better thinker than a brain dead Donald Trumpeter or Sarah Pea Brain. You think that if you voted for Barack Obama that you're somehow a 'liberal'????? Not at all.

'Have some common sense if you go down South, don't think that you'll be able to get away just by invoking your rights or better yet, their rights!'

Oh how the Anglo pretends to live on the Border, and then tells us to fear the South because it has Latinos living there. Not for a second do I actually think that this so-called self identified 'border dweller is anything other than your typical, off the wall Anglo Rightist. In fact, I rather even doubt that he ever stretched as far out to the middle divide as to ever have even voted for Obomber Dude.

Anonymous said...

Ardent said...
" Yeah, executing people without trial is something that Bush and Cheney handed to us, and now Barack, the Mr No Change guy is rubber stamping as dumb donkeys look on tweedle dumbly dumbly."

And what does that have to do with the price of tea in China ?

" No doubt, you are a dumb ass Centrist (at best) Democrat who is no better thinker than a brain dead Donald Trumpeter or Sarah Pea Brain. You think that if you voted for Barack Obama that you're somehow a 'liberal'????? Not at all. "

HAHAHA ! I was right about you, you made my point beautifully. You love to make statements about things you know nothing about; you like to speculate, that way you sound like you know your shit, but instead you sound like a fool living in his mother's basement, typing with your left hand because your right hand is busy. I am a registered Republican who voted for Obama because I thought he was serious about reigning in Wall Street and putting some of those fukers in jail but now I know he's no different. Fuk Sarah Palin, that retard needs to go back to TLC. ( by the way, never use multiple question marks, it is a gramatical error)

"Oh how the Anglo pretends to live on the Border, and then tells us to fear the South because it has Latinos living there. Not for a second do I actually think that this so-called self identified 'border dweller is anything other than your typical, off the wall Anglo Rightist. In fact, I rather even doubt that he ever stretched as far out to the middle divide as to ever have even voted for Obomber Dude."

You are amazing! more speculation! I am actually Hispanic and I live 20 mins from the nearest port of entry. You sound like you hate white people... and black people... and ... well, almost everybody else that doesn't buy into your bullshit. Oh! and you never answered my question; What is a " femocidal" ? You're too busy trying to come across as educated, you 're making up words as you go. You probably meant "genocidal" which is the act of murdering hundreds, thousands or even millions of people... And that is what is happening in Mexico, thanks to American's drug addictions and illegal BATF gun running.
Have a nice life, moron !

Ardent said...

Look, you might not, as a registered Republican Hispanic hombre...lol..., like the word 'femocidal', but I think that you are smart enough to figure out what it means without the help of Webster or Robert's Rules of Order or me.

It really bothers you though that I used such a feminist pc sort of description of all those murders of women in Ciudad Juarez. Well boo-hoo... hoo. You'll get over it though. And if you run into a cute hippy chamaca you will have a new word in your swelt machista vocab, Ricky,

'I am a registered Republican who voted for Obama because I thought he was serious about reigning in Wall Street.'

So instead of being a Centrist Democrat, you are merely a Republican trying to be Democratic Party Centrist! Wow... Go figure!

Oh gad the webs AngloSized Tex Mexers weave for themselves trying to fit in in Gringolandia! Now starting to vote RePugnant even! And then twisting back to vote for the Democrat who acts like a Republican. What's this brave new world coming to?

'Have a nice life, moron !'

You tanto, Tonto. And what the hell is a 'port of entry'? Is that what once was called a border town? Made yourself sound even a little bit 'educated' using that description for your beloved Laredo???? hahaha

Do you work for La Migra? I miss dem Nuevo/ Laredo Tecolote baseball games and all those Tex Mex Migra families attending.... not!

Ardent said...

Despite this last long rambling flame of yours against me, Anonymous Port of entry living guy, BB chose not to print my first reply to you where I did answer your comment about me using the word 'femocidal' in regard to the mass murders of women in Juarez .

So I will now just wish you a nice life, too. I really don't 'hate' you after all, Mr. Anonymous. And I won't call you 'dickhead' like you called me.

Anonymous said...

Ardent, I take everyone`s point of view and decide for myself, so I want to ask you a question about Bin Laden. If you don`t mind answering? The USA, (like it or hate it no matter) had done the ground work for finding Bin Laden, they got to him, and yes, killed him, My question is, What would you have done? Your the president, how would you have handled that? I`m on the fence on the subject, so I~d like to hear a different perspective. Thanks if you answer.

Ardent said...

Osama? Since he was a criminal, why didn't they have him arrested instead of just assassinating him? Pakistan would have done that for the US government, in fact, but Obama chose to assassinate him directly in Dubya/ Cheney style, violating basic international law.

The truth is, that if bin Laden had been tried, the US itself would also have been on trial by Osama's most probable defense tactics.... and very inconveniently for the US government at that. They chose to kill him instead, yet that underlines the basic criminality of the US government anyway, as the US military and government now continually violate almost all international laws, including those against overt political assassinations of people our elites don't like.

This subject of Osama's assassination by Obama really is related to the style of murder without trial practiced by the US supported Mexican military at Falcon Lake and throughout the rest of Mexico, too. The US and its allies throughout the world have abandoned the high road in almost everything now, and have made themselves into nothing more than just the baddest and biggest criminal gang around, an approach to war and crime that will produce much worse than it is supposedly trying to prevent long term. It already has. We have a world continually engaged in warfare.

Anonymous said...

Predictable answer. The USA Government enjoys killing people according to Ernie . Funny though, it's full of left-leaning liberals like Ernie .

Ardent said...

No, I am not a liberal Democratic Party voter, Anonymous 2:25 pm like you think that I am.

I don't vote for either Democrats or Republicans so you perhaps can imagine just how 'democratic' I actually find the US to be? Not very.

'The USA Government enjoys killing people according to Ernie.'

Yeah, what would our national life be without Right Winger Whirrled Peas, Jack Bauer , drones, torture, and selected assassinations of occasionally people who are not just innocent civilians like most always they actually are, AnonyMoe?

'lito'brito said...

@T'ardent

just like you said about the old general...

live by the sword die by the sword...

have a swig of crow juice to wash down your own words erny

what were these guys doing on this island ..all armed up..i mean really ..explain that

you are like a child mad at the teacher/authority figure ..and hanging out with the bad boys smoking in the boys room ..all thinking they are your friends ..but really they are just juvenile delinquents who use you to sneak beer from your papas fridge...

and when they turn on you, you will run to teacher...just like you live in the USA ...to be safe and collect the benefits

grow up kiddo...these narcos aren't just misunderstood by society...they are hard core culeros who are in the business for the dinero

they would kill you and your family as quick as anybody..your apologist bullshit wouldn't count for shit...they would just think you were stupid to defend them

and they are right

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