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Monday, February 13, 2023

RR | Chapter 2 "The Meeting with El Apá"

Mica for Borderlandbeat.com 
My Obsession of RR | Chapter 1

My Obsession of RR | Chapter 2 "The Meeting with El Apá"
In-Person Meeting
A face-to-face meeting is tricky for cartels because it usually involves important underworld figures being hunted by rivals and the government. An in-person meeting is unnecessary and only used for the most critical matters. In-person meetings are necessary when the subject is too sensitive to share between messengers, and a higher level of privacy is needed.  

El RR would be the initiator of the meeting with Gerardo González Ramírez, El Apá. What was so urgent that RR would request an in-person meeting? 

The Reason to Meet
Since 2019, federal authorities have information that the leader of the Jalisco New Generation Cartel (CJNG) that kidney failure he suffers from has deteriorated his health and hindered his refuge in mountainous areas of the states of Jalisco, Michoacán, and Colima.

Rumors concerning the health of El Mencho are nothing new. But in August 2022, this would be the reason for the narco summit between Doble R and Apa. 

For health reasons, Mencho was working on his succession, and the plan to hand over the power to his son-in-law, Julio Alberto Castillo Rodríguez, (husband to Jessica Johanna Oseguera González) either temporarily or permanently, is unknown.

Julio Alberto Castillo Rodríguez
"El Mayate" or "El Chorro"
Son-in-law of Mencho

Rejecting Mayate
This new decision of supreme leadership did not sit well with El Doble R and El Apa.  The Ministry of National Defense leaked that, last Wednesday, August 10, its troops were about to apprehend two of those leaders in Ixtlahuacán del Río, Jalisco: Ricardo Ruiz Velasco alias El RR and Gerardo González Ramírez El Apá.

They would have met to find a way out of the conflict, but this meeting was interrupted by a military operation. 

Doble R and Apa report directly to Juan Carlos 'El 03' Valencia González as he created The Elite Group. He is allegedly the stepson of El Mencho and the brother of Laisha.

Juan Carlos Valencia González
"El 03" or "El Pillon"
Stepson of Mencho

Some of the most notable work of El 03 is that he is the alleged person responsible for the kidnapping of Jesús Alfredo and Iván Archivaldo in Puerto Vallarta.

Playing it Safe
For now, it's safe to say that Mencho is running the show, and rumors have stopped regarding his health.

RR and Apa report under Juan Carlos 'El 03' Valencia González. He is allegedly the stepson of El Mencho and the brother of Laisha. RR and Apa are loyal to El 03 and would have more power under him. 

As we learned in Chapter 1, The Elite Group of CJNG, a one-time commando unit, has fully taken over El Marro's cash cow, fuel theft. Also, we learned about the 3rd and 2nd ranks of the Elite Group, El Locochón, and his boss El Chawis. 

If El Mayate took the leadership role, both men would lose power and the cash cow of fuel theft. 

More Thoughts & Speculation
Mencho enjoys it when his subjects do stupid things to prove their worth. Some examples are Groupo Elite making a video for his birthday showing off an impressive force and equipment. How about kidnapping two female Marines at Walmart in Puerto Vallarta? Or kidnapping Chapitos at a popular restaurant? How about killing a YouTube kid, lol? Do these sound like good plans?

These sound like low-level grunt 
assignments with a high probability of being caught. So why would RR, 03, Mayate, Tony Montana, and Jessica Johanna Oseguera González (daughter of Mencho, wife of Mayate) participate in these activities?

The "Future Leaders" of CJNG entertaining Mencho

Because Mencho loves all the attention, the inner brass of CJNG is constantly trying to outdo one another to be number one on Mencho's list. As you can imagine, this causes a lot of competition, but not without bad blood and losers!

Thanks for reading, and look out for Chapter 3 this week.
Mica

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35 comments:

  1. Ese organización va tronar!!! No tarda y esa cápula del 03,apa,RR,m2 y el delta vs sapo jardinero y sus compinches que los apoyan de mi se acuerdan. Y cuando eso pase vamos a ver para donde jala el tanke el profe el charro tornado y los demás perritos

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  2. Those have to be the worst handles "el mayate" and "el chorro" LMAO, dear lord.

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    1. Those aliases were created by La Vaca when he splintered off and created CIDC

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  3. People actually believe CJNG are going to go on an insane run and never get caught , It baffles me because was Mencho or any big member gets caught everyone is going to switch sides and not wanna cooperate bahhaha just like CDS`

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    1. People still also believe Mencho is alive.

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    2. So according to you no "big members" from CJNG have been arrested and as soon as they do it'll be every man for himself?
      More than a decade operating as an organization and they remain untouched by the government?
      wUt?

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    3. Untouched???!!! Seriously???!!! You should do your homework. Pretty much all of Mencho's family alone has took some hits. Do your homework my guy, I'll just leave it at that

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    4. 11:12 notice those question marks at the end of my comments and the wUt.
      I should have put a 🤡 when answering 8:11

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    5. 11:12 ans still stronger than ever. Mencho is respected but when he gets caught or dies, it will split in 2 or 3.
      Same thing happened when chapo got caught the 3rd time. Cds doesn't have a main string capo to run the show. Everyone claims mayo is the absolute capo for cds bit if that was the case, cds would still be solid and not split in 3. Guano, chapitos and mayo.

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  4. Is the person who kicked chapito during the puerto vallarta kidnapping still alive?

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    1. They are all dead. The whole group that participated in the kidnapping.

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    2. i thought los 28 handled that ran by el lucifer i believe they are loyal to no DTO

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    3. Where did you guys get that from??? What proof is there? Like itt mentioned here, Mencho's stepson was the one behind it and he's still alive and kicking. So for sure atleast one of them is still alive

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    4. To this day no one knows for sure who took the menores... So why say he might have been responsible?

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    5. I think its safe to say CJNG were not the kidnappers in PV. Menchos kid was in CDS controlled prison its not a good move. It really looks like Damaso just fumbled his attempt to take CDS because then they had Menchos son so now he has 2 problems.

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    6. 10:11 regardless of who ordered for los memories to be kidnapped supposedly it was done by a group named los Bayos. All that physically participated in the kidnapping were later found floating in a river.

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    7. 2:20 It was los 28 but who ordered it is a different story.

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  5. Really interesting insights Mica, looking forward to the next part. Though isn't El Mayate the husband of Jessica, instead of Laisha?

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    1. http://www.borderlandbeat.com/2022/02/cds-say-they-are-in-colima-to-fight_13.html

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    2. Making a correction. Thanks for pointing it out.

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  6. Chapitos were kidnapped by Damaso El Lic and
    El "Mochomito", son of Alfredo Beltrán Leyva. No CJNG were involved !

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    1. No kidnapped by Alfredito with the backing of CJng.
      Alfredito told them the addy

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    2. So it happened in the middle of one of their main plazas but they had nothing to do with it. Two different cartels just waltz in and do as they please with out CJNG not being any the wiser about it??? Come on now. You really believe that? That area is one of their main hubs and they don't do nothing about it?

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  7. Lots of different opinions on who was being chapitos kidnapping and whether they are still operating. Mica and Hearst care to do a follow up??

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    1. Los chapitos we’re kidnapped by a bunch of idiots trying to prove loyalty to mencho that was that for them mencho had them all whacked because menchito was in a CDS controlled pinta and Mayo stepped in and said he would fuck him and CJNG up. Mencho didn’t want the smoke and quickly gave back the chapitos unharmed

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    2. 6:56 😝🤣🤦‍♂️

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    3. 6:56 🤣🤣🤣🤣 sure son, and than what happen? Tell us more my alucin friend

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    4. Chinga tu puta madre

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    6. 8:32 no need to get the jefitas involved in this when you dont have an argument

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    7. @ 8:34 I’m dieng bruh lol

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  8. I don’t think Laisha and her husband kidnapped those 2 Marines to try impress her dad for some part of the silly succession competition. I think she did it because they had just arrested and detained her mom, and she doesn’t give a fuck.

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  9. I can follow up on the kidnapping with a post after RR and Apa. Actually I helped Chivis with research for the original kidnapping post here. I am very familiar with the area and the restaurant La Leche. An updated post with new research is in the queue.

    But seriously with the Alfredito did it. 🙂

    If anything, Alfredito gave up the information which wasn’t too secret. After all it was a birthday trip with a dozen or so on social media.

    But Alfredito didn’t show up with dozens of sicarios at one of nicest areas on the strip. No Damaso or anyone else outside of CJNG could pull off that kind of move, in that location, and with that big of crew. The “intellectual” author of such event is El 03.

    I look forward to showing the research and covering some new topics in the post on the kidnapping.

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    1. That would be great. Looking forward to it!!

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