Hola Borderland Beat….
Chapo declarations of his
incarceration as being excessive and inhumane continues this week in the New York
courtroom. Yesterday he was denied his request
to join the general prison population.
His request for visiting privileges with his wife Emma Coronel was
modified and allowed under strict conditions.
That being she is allowed to visit or phone El Chapo, for the narrow
purpose of discussing the hiring of new attorneys.
His attorneys will be
in court again today, to plead their case of excessive conditions of Chapo’s
imprisonment.
Below are documents
pertaining to the issues aforementioned and others from the past week.
Paz……Chivis
(Otis...dang! THANK YOU!!!!)
El Chapo Case Decision and Order SAMS by Chivis Martinez on Scribd
El Chapo Case Docket 06466 BMC by Chivis Martinez on Scribd
it is in humane that he is not allowed visitors. Other prisoners get visitors. This is not right nor legal at all. Chapo should sue.
ReplyDeleteAnd you think he gave these rights to the people he killed or had killed? Poor Chumpo,Seriously!!! I suppose you want to give the devil a fire hose too?
DeleteWhen you get into a business that has drugs,guns and some of the most gruesome people that you ever seen there's going to be violence. It's survival of the fittest. How many of his people have gotten killed too? And It's not his fault that the USA have drug issues.
DeleteHe entered into that business on his own and that business has consequence. Whether they go to far on his imprisonment or not is debatable, however, I'm not gonna sit here and pretend that he is the same as any regular criminal. Its not his fault that the US started having drug issues, but, he definitely has a hand in contributing to it. You don't earn billions of dollars in that business without destroying a fair share of families and lives.
DeleteHe should have joined the DEA instead you can do what you want you just have to give the bosses their cut. If you want to be a king pen go full in like Pablo Escobar just don't kill people like a terrorist and be prepared for the long haul.
Delete3:03 the CIA was paying much better back in the day, well not all of the CIA, just some "rogue agents" with charolas that were using their powers from the WHITES' HOUSE under Ronald Reagan to make war against "guerrillas" and guerrillas to destabilize the region and make a.ton of money from the drug trafficking king and money laundering, then the DEA caught up with them, and robbed some of their millions of dollars from the bank, idea of el Kiki Camarena.
DeleteMy point is, some people use their government positions, for evil purposes like making war for profit, but not everybody in US government participates, most just cover it all up...
It's really hard to establish visiting rights with high value cartel leaders. I myself have been through the process and you have to have permission from FBI dea and us marshalls. They get pay stubs bank info and a polygraph. Then you have to be approved by the judge I have done it before and it's a long process. My wife and I are the only ones in the us allowed to visit unless it's attorneys. I personally believe he should get a Skype visit or something along those lines.
DeletePrisoners have no federal constitutional rights to visitors except access to lawyers. There are numerous cases that support this. So too bad there are no grounds to sue. I can get you the legal citations but easier for you to read the ACLU website.
DeleteAnd good thoughts to Chivis.
Chivis you're not dead yet,I was under the impression all dinosaurs were extinct?
ReplyDelete6:43 Chivis will never die.
DeleteAsi que callate pendejo.
Readers; If I could track down 6:43 Anon, how many of you would join me in paying him a visit?
Delete@dd no need for a crowd, send me the coordinates this 1 is all mine.
DeleteFuck to the yes! Note to the POS: limit your time on the pipe, better yet, destroy and stay far away.
DeleteDD and all who wrote in comments and sent me a nice personal message...thank you for the kind encouragement. I don't understand the mindset and goal of 6:43 of why he would say such a thing to a perfect stranger But it makes me feel so grateful that I can say with confidence that none of my children, grandbabies, and family members would ever send such a mean, stupid comment to anyone let alone a stranger. I guess I will just feel sorrowful for the author, who for whatever the circumstance has yet not learned to feel compassion for others, due to a poor upbringing, lack of parenting, love, or a sad environment. I forgive you and send you a hug and love.
DeleteChivis: YOU DA BEST! In my DJ Khalid voice! And dd count me in, I will bring out the brass knuckles
DeleteCheck out the spam folder Tia, there is some peenass who reckons he could take a dewald drill to my head ! that did make me chuckle, at least he has good taste in tools even if he is a tool himself.
DeleteYou are not in Mexico anymore!
ReplyDeleteAnd this is definitely not Burger King !
Measures are in place for such reasons!
Sure your still hitting your head for the carelessness and egotistical manner that got you there.
Should have stayed in the mountains like Osama Bin Ladens early years.
Anybody really believes him lmao this criminal probably living like a king his the biggest drug lord just excute him don't wasted tax payers money on him
DeleteNo le creo nada asi decia en la prision de mexico I se fugo
DeleteTamaulipas Entren Al Topon
So what that's what your lawyers are for to do everything in your power to get you avrythung you want and need but really no visits or phone calls what is he going to escape thru the phone are they that incompetent that he is going to escape in a visit
ReplyDeleteThey don't want him to give orders to anyone. It's not bout escaping it's bout continuing to run his drug empire
Delete7:53 the "enterprise" has never stopped, that is the good part, squeezing money out of the US is job #1, it is all parked in foreign banks or invested offshore where it pays no taxes ever, specially in china.
DeleteLa Chapa is like a tachuela in a sea of tachuelas when it comes to importance, let's go hack Macron's election.
Like always great blog....do you know if emma...is residing here in the states or in mex...if the state who's paying for her travel an lodge...interesting to find out since not $1 of chapos money has been found by the authority's
ReplyDeleteShe plans to move to wherever Chapo ends up, but for now she travels back and forth from Mexico to NYC.
DeleteFuck chapo and his rights and anyone whos thinks he should have some , just throw away the keys and forget about his ass ,
ReplyDeletelol u mad bro?
DeleteAint mad at all bro , just that these narco pussies wanna be all big and bad and nitt give a fck about anyones elses life when they were out there , now they get caught and cring like lil bitches talking about where my human rights fck out here with that bullshit, im actually happy these scum bags are suffering all their worng doings in life , and not buried let them suffer now que estan vivos
DeleteAnybody really believes him lmao this criminal probably living like a king his the biggest drug lord just excute him don't wasted tax payers money on him
ReplyDeleteAnyone that is incarcerated in the U.S should not be treated this way. We are a country with principles we are not known to be such disgusting pigs if this man has committed crimes like everyone else in there what makes his crime any different than murderers? Everyone in the government knows how this rolls they themselves were involved with him IF that's even el chapo behind those bars. The most powerful drug lord ever to get caught and treated this way I'm sorry but it's hard to believe that the one person that fed all of Mexican officials and presidents turn someone like this over ha hard to believe.
ReplyDeleteWe can only fathom the number of victims killed maimed and assaulted by the hundreds of thousands of addicts all over this country. Not to mention the other hundreds of thousands of families and friends that are torn up by the fact, in his own words "I provide more drugs to the US than anyone else" genocide, how about narcocide. Chapo has had more negative impact on this country than any other enemy nation. He should be treated as a despot and hung in public, or like the Japanese used to do: death by a thousand cuts...
Delete9:33 you are the only fair person. I agree with what you say. He's guilty of being in the drug trade well there are murderers that took part in 911 etc who got treated better!!!!!
Delete9:33 . "if that is really him in prison " ? "Everyone in the government knows how this rolls they themselves were involved with him " ? And Elvis is really still alive ? I hope he can give out credible information . He wont get off easy but it could become difficult for anyone living off his drug money to live openly in the usa . I figure sometime in the future and probably sooner than later this woman will move on with her life . Its obvious that chapo somehow has some kind of financial control over her assets . She is probably given a ration of money . the usa can probably help her solve part of that .
Delete@ 10:17 am.
DeleteYou do make a point.
However you are neglecting a major contributor to millions of deaths each year by the same chemically induced products. And yet impunity for such are granted / permitted. Tobacco companies.
Moreover where we have eagerly demonstrated in engagement of war with countries who have or use chemical weapons against its citizens. And yet chemical plants of such remain untouched nor punished.
Do you catch the irony of such transparencies!
Correction to 10:17.
DeleteThe second to last sentence should have read ; And yet chemical plants remain untouched and unpunished.
Apologies for error. Sent from my smart phone.
You have to think like a crook. The issue is not about "visits" with loved ones or for socializing...
ReplyDeleteIt is about communications very sensitive information and not about lonliness. Chapo wants information and also to give orders via visitors. He cannot trust his lawyers.
Chapo is pissed that he has lost control of his criminal empire...that is what all this is really about.
amen !!
ReplyDeleteAccording to this AP article, El Chapo won't be tried until April 2018. http://www.sfgate.com/news/crime/article/Joaquin-El-Chapo-Guzman-returns-to-court-in-11123180.php
ReplyDeleteA federal case can go from 2-3 yrs,I knew a nobody that his case took 26 months for drug trafficking
Delete2:20 in the case of russian spies they usually do exchange of prisoners, even trade americans for mexicans, imagine the biggest of american crooks making billions of dollars in russia or la chapa traded for a few hundred güeros?
DeleteHes caused more harm than a simple criminal. Have you even thought of how many crimes, killings, rapes, OD's because of people who were on drugs? That el chapo brought in? Theres a reason drugs are illegal. Because they cause severe harm to the world.
ReplyDeleteThe victims of pedophilia or rape get to live on, despite the damage to their souls.
ReplyDeleteMany have died due to his decisions, see the difference now?
Por que se enojan con chapo que quiera sus derechos? Enojense con el sistema y sus leyes. Existen por algo. Si serian mamadas que nadie tuviera derecbos y el los pidiera.. Pero hay derechos. Ahora por las muertes que estuvo relacionado nadie les pidio que se metieran ellps sabian lo que hacian. No son inocentes.asi son las osas com todos los narcos. Hay enemigos pues tienes que eliminarlos..asi que esos que dicen y el derecho de los aue mato? Eran inocentes todos ellos no hacian lo mismo? Con otras personas? Quejenze con el systema de los derechos aue hizo la ley.
ReplyDeleteBien dicho compa!
DeletePos a Gûebo,
Deletebut even La Puta Tuta that recorded his dealings with michuacan politicians and his own associate narcos and sicarios has no standing in a "mexican court of laws",
Well, that how Kangaroo Courts justice railroad its works for convictions, they always make the dumbest fool pay for shit.
"Esto lo va a pagar el más Pendejo" is a popular mexican saw, that why la chapa was released in 2 000 and caro quintero in 2012, he better watch his ass el pinchi rafa, unless he delivers La.Mencha.
You know how many little girls chapo raped? Now its his turn to get raped by Tyrone. He can always take the Hernandez n hang himself!
ReplyDeleteThe damage to there souls is like a death sentence, see the difference now
ReplyDeleteGET WELL SOON GIRL
ReplyDeletethank you friend....
Delete3:08 gracias, thanquiu, never been better. -El Sol Prendido
DeleteI get it when you tell a lie you keep telling the same lie over and over again to make sure everyone belives it
ReplyDeleteThe crybaby butcher....the mass murderer of Sinaloa, the Pee Wee Herman of the cartel trade. He's got to man up, face the music and reality that he is going to a cage at ADX by years end for the remainder of his worthless sack of shit life. Hopefully he will be a "death by suicide" in the coming future.
ReplyDeleteThe hypocrisy of the US judicial system in full display again as we near the 25th anniversary (04/29/92) of the Rodney King trial and the acquittal of 4 white officers for the brutal beating of a black man. Every person in the US that is incarcerated should have the right to due process and the means to themselves regardless of the charges. Every institution in the US devoted to civil right should be appalled by the US government's actions in Chapo's case. The big picture here is that this is not about Chapo but about the racism, bigotry and discrimination that minorities face everyday in Amerikka. I have to also be mindful that I have friends that are white who are really good people but the majority are not. One more proof that the US government will make your life a living hell if you are either black or brown. That is the reason their is more Mexicans in the pen than in college. However, if your a pale skin you will get nothing but a slap on the wrist. Best wishes to Chivis...10:28...
ReplyDeleteWow! That's quite a dark blanket statement of all white people. I respect respect your opinion but I find it harsh. I could say I used to think like that 20-30 years ago. I'm glad I've changed. My opinion- we're all equally good,bad,etc. It's our environment that hardens (or softens) us. My parents were hard on race issues. I grew up racist. Took years to undue that. Chapo is a special case. Nothing to do with skin color
DeleteMn
Was the US not built on the backs of slaves? Do you really think those White Anglo Saxon Protestant (WASP) deep seeded racist beliefs against minorities have evaporated? No, it's ingrained in the fabric of Amerikkkan society whether you like it or not.
DeleteWell,.if la.Chapa needed his impunity that bad, he should have got himself made a lieutenant colonel at least, in the mexican army at least, it worked for Domingo Monterrosa in El Salvador, Julian leyzaola in tijuas, lt.col. James Steele, in el Salvador and Iraq, and for Oliver North in the a white House, sheet! It even worked for private "Soldier" felix rodriguez mendigutia and to prove that there is No racism involved, Rick "Freeway" Ross, most favored by the inventors of CRACK FOR THE HUDDLED MASSES that helped unleash the US crack epidemic to finance the contras
DeleteBut not work at all for Air Marshall Barry Seal, or El Dotor Mireles.
Chiva, quén te quere baby? Best wishes.
Holier than Thou politics, practiced by a US government being investigated for espionage and shit, a whole lot of shit, including racism all the way wherever it may fit for a day or two, while they try to erase evidence from their own millions of "e-mails", heheheee said the devil.
DeleteUnfortunately the judiciary system demonstrates a strong pattern of favorable sentencing guidelines for non- minority's. Past and present American history clearly represents an unfavorable reality of racial issues. Where minority's have a greater chance of incarceration. Moreover a stiffer sentence than being non minority. Furthermore where census statistics suggest legal representation lack for such .
DeleteHowever this should not discourage us to become bigots , racist and ignorant to the systems which often continues to demonstrate a lack of fairness and equality.
But a goal to eradicate such behavior and practices by demonstrating otherwise, values, dignity and respect as Americans. Where freedom and equality pertains to all .
As a Hispanic/ American in today's society I will always contribute to my true belief as an American. Where patriotism is
not questionable but rather exemplified regardless of ignorant people.
@4:21 I thought BB was against racist statements? "The majority of whites" are not good?!? You're a racist, pal. Congratchafukkinlations
DeleteEste señor es no mas ni menos uno de los proncipales actores y responsables de que mexico este consumido en un mar de corrupcion, sangre , crimen y miles de personas , hijos , padres, hermanos y hermanas muertos o desaparecidos,a este señor que ahora reclama sus " derechos" nunca le temblo la mano para ordenar no solo matar, pero torturar, aterrorizar,
ReplyDeletedesparecer a toda persona "buena y mala" que se le oponia en su insaciable sed de poder y dinero,es facil castigar a todos ,lo dificil es saber a quien castigar en la medida correcta, el grado adecuado y el momento preciso, este tipo el chapo no es un ser humano es un moustro que merece todo absolutamente que le pase , de ni parte goza de " zero " simpatia.
Muy bien expresado.
Delete@6:59 Right ON!
Delete6:59 self-congratulation is Wrong, but you will never learn, puppets are not to be blamed, follow the money to the puppeteering pinnocchios. Your comment is all a lie.
Deletepobricito chapo. the murdering, trecherous bastard. Finally being treated exactly the way he deserves. Bienvenido to the U.S. Federal Prison system. Assuming he isn't put to death, he only has 50 years or so additional years of this.
ReplyDeleteHis worst nightmare has become his reality. Chapo will die in prison and there is nothing he can do about it. No escapes, no bribing or intimidating prison staff. Just solitary confinement until he finally dies in a prison cell all alone.
ReplyDeletePlease, no bribing or intimidating?? Hah you have obviously never been to prison, he will be the king anywhere he goes, even supermax, what makes you think you can't bribe COs there?
DeleteGuzman is a living legend in L.A. and Chicago where a large portion of shot callers inside federal prisons made their bones. Powerful prison and street gangs like La Eme, Aryan Brotherhood, MS-13 and the Latin Kings have a long standing working relationship with his organization. Did you not hear about the love he was showered with when he arrived in NY? I am willing to bet that in time he will get his way in the US penitentiary system.
DeleteMichael Miller . I think I have a little insight on how it will be . Sure there are some prison guards that can be bought . They are the exception rather than the rule . What happens when the one contact he has in prison gets caught ? Man I done time in Texas Joe F Gurney . Garza East , Segovia and the John B. Connally . Those gangsters are really runnin some shit ? LOL . Think about the enterprise those little nickle and dime gangsters are running in there . Chapo wont even be able to that much . By the time he gets out of ULTA close custody he will be so insignifican .... if he is still alive . The USA is going after his assets and Emma won't be able to use them in the usa . Chapo is D. O. N. E. done !
Delete@653..And him being a king in prison makes him what? A prison with gold bars,marble floors is still a prison....100 yrs! I wouldn't wanna be a king doing life any where
Deletelmfao your complete clown how do you think all the cell phones and drugs get into prisons by the C0's
Delete3:55 . Sure Co's are the ones who bring in most of the contraband . This may be fatasy in your way of thinking . I am telling you when chapo gets to the place he will live out his days there will be no corrupt CO's . Not that chapo will have contact with . The closest he will come to a corrupt Co will be maybe one showing a little compassion and letting him have a extra cookie or something . Chapo is done
Delete3:55 all I know is when in prison you have to store your cell phone, and the sock full of grifa up the ass, it is not funny.
DeleteThanks chivis for the update. Get Well! "Save you for the short, keep you for long" my boss used to say when i missed work
ReplyDeleteMn
nice! love it
DeleteChivis i am a fan or your work, like I tell my daughter
ReplyDelete"Brains AND beauty" thanks for all your work. Feel better.
Desde CAlifaS
818/323/213
My father used to tell me that.... :) Thank you
DeleteShorty will never see the light of day again and will die in the Supermax someday
ReplyDeleteHas Kate Del Castillo paid a visit to him yet
ReplyDeleteSuddenly everyone on here is a prison expert. There's a reason no one wants to end up in Supermax. You're holed up 23 hours a day with no human contact. This isn't a CERESO in asscrack, Mexico. He'll be watched 24/7 until he dies. He'll be begging to be executed. All you wanna be "gangsters" need to STFU learn something.
ReplyDeleteWell said 811...YOUR DONE SAPO 😂
DeleteEy compas,nimodos perdio el jr. pinche Chavez pa laverga. Pan comido pal compa canelo. Cuidensen plebes
ReplyDelete-💯
Tipico Sinaloa hablando de mas
DeleteEvery one is right in there own way, hunger and suffering will make you do things you don't want to do. Especially if you have siblings and sick parents so many people on here with high morals. Morals go out the door with hunger and emotional pain,suffering,sickeness and the person that gave you 500 pesos for fucken food for your family. People know where comes from but your tripas want food. Then turn it down because of your morals "si como no" pasen ambres y humillaciones para que vean si no quieren tirar putasos pinche gente la que no a sufrido es la que más abla cuiden esas bocas por que el mundo da muchas vueltas. In others words It depends on what side of the table you are sitting on will determine your point of view but I don't forget where I sat. And will always be grateful don't judge if you don't know shit.
ReplyDelete6:54-You are probably right and that's why it's so easy for PRI to buy votes.Also same thing with drug addicts,morals go out the window.
ReplyDeleteThis Chapo asshole got snitched by his sons and Mayo. Now he is busy complaining like a little girl.
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