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Saturday, August 15, 2015

8 killed in shootout and pursuit after thwarted kidnapping

Lucio R. for Borderland Beat material from Reforma and Tabasco Hoy -photos from social media 


Villahermosa, Tabasco - on Friday an attempted kidnapping, resulting in a chase, ended with  eight dead, including three policemen.

According to the version of the Ministry of Public Security of the State, two of the alleged kidnappers, one male and one female, were arrested but died “while being taken for medical care”.

However, in photos released on social networks the two detainees are seen in the bed of a police pickup, alive and in the case of the woman, appears to be conscious and without bullet impacts.

In other images taken by press photographer, the bodies of the two detainees are seen  at the edge of a river, in an area about 15 kilometers from where the arrest occurred, on a path of Ranchería Plátano and  Cacao Section 2.

A woman is seen with a shot in the left temple and the man with a shot in the arm that pierced the ribs.


The attempted kidnapping  in the Municipal colony left a toll of 5 criminals killed and three policemen dead. 

The incident took place at about 11:00 pm yesterday, when a group of armed men traveling aboard a gray Toyota, attempted to kidnap  a businessman at a car wash on Calle Mariano Arista.

The kidnapping was thwarted by Miguel Angel Lopez Garcia of the Highway State Police motor patrol, when he realized the information sent out on radio matched that vehicle in his sight.  He began pursuit, the suspects began firing and killed two motorcycle police.  

The kidnappers abandoned their vehicle and boarded a Red Jetta.


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Gunfire continued until the Jetta driver lost control and crashed into a tree. 

According to the official version;  it began around 11 am, when a group of criminals tried to kidnap a man.

Pursuit and shootouts began by police,  that left three policemen, including a ministerial (SSP) dead and two more wounded.

In the press conference,  no questions were allowed, the head of the SSP, Sergio Ricardo Martinez Luis, confirmed that the death toll from the clashes, was three policemen and five "criminals".

He said three of the alleged kidnappers, died on impact when their car crashed while fleeing police, in which fleeing police on  Villahermosa Road.





However, in the photos  the bodies of three people reflect  bullet wounds, two of them are in the head.

"Upon arrival of Police, they realized that there were three bodies vital signs and two others  who were observed having serious injuries.”

"Faced with this emergency, they attempted transferring (the wounded) to the nearest hospital to provide  health care and noting that vehicular traffic was blocked, they elected to use an alternative pathway that leads from the Ranchería Plátano and  Cacao Section 2.


"When realizing the decline of the detainees condition, the unit stopped, and removed the suspects, “to render first aid”,  which failed and the detainees perished from injuries sustained in the crash.” 


Governor Arturo Nunez praised the performance of the police in hot pursuit of the assailants, whom he said, died as the result of "walking the wrong path."

The intended kidnapping victim survived unharmed.

Families weigh in:

Relatives of three of the five people who died after a chase with state police demanded justice. Of the
deceased, three were brothers, according to their aunt Domitilla Marin Almeida, (right) and undeserving being gunned down.

She said, that in the official version of events, her family members perished because of shock from the vehicle crash.  "I demand justice my family has suffered from discrimination. They did not die by accident, but were killed by   the coup de grace. “Referring to the fact 4 of the 5 suspects had a gunshot to the head.

“They were not animals to be gunned down like that.  Everyone is supposed to have rights.”


She stated the government is withholding the bodies from the family.
These were the two suspects in the truck bed



95 comments:

  1. Glad that the intended victim survived, but too bad for the 3 law enforcement officers. As for the kidnappers, they deserved to die painful deaths.

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    1. So whats the problem???

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    2. They also deserve judicial process, every human being does.

      The cops were fish in a barrel chasing them on motorcycles

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    3. Judicial process you mean pay a bribe and they would out doing the dame thing the same day

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    4. @2.20pm i feel bad for you. When they rape your daughter and kill you mom make sure you stand up for the kidnappers and say they deserve judicial process..

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    5. We all got constitutional rights regardless of the actions you comitt ,the kidnappers deserved a judicial process,The corrupt cops can't just execute you.Get all this politicians a out of power, and led the U.S take over mexico problem solve,I hope this corrupt pigs get prosecuted, for murdering the kidnappers period, imagine them cops killing your mom??

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    6. My mom doesn't kidnap for a living. And what were the kidnappers planning for their intended target...? Imagine them kidnappers kidnaping your mom??

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    7. 5:45 you don't know anything about mexico you're sitting behind a laptop in the U.S., Mexico is not like the U.S people over here are desperate for work, every one wants to eat, even the cops, earning 69 U.S dollars peer week is not enough to support your self, nor you're family,that's the reason why the majority of individuals rather go balls out and fight the government, and make a living out of exactly what the government does Witch it steal, and murder.The criminals, and the government are the same trash.I live in fresnillo zacatecas and let me tell you" is no joke over here." Once you're arrested by the cops for any reason what so ever,there's a 50/50 chance you might not make it back to your love ones.cops over here deliver you to organize crime so they can kill you, or in many other cases they kill you them selfs, and that's exactly what happen to this girl she got killed with no justification, we don't know if she was gully or not? Let the PGR decided.So like I said before imagine this happening to your mom, or sister. Imagine them going about there business and just out of no where they get kidnapped by the corrupt cops that you trust to serve, and protect you, and then they murder raped, torture, and kill your mom, and sister just because they thought they just had kidnapped some one.We the people need to open our eyes and fight for our freedom that has been taking from us little, by little, first let's remove Pena nieto, and his corrupt administration from office, and maybe then mexico will change.

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    8. 10:44 PM where are the constitutional rigths of the kidnapped victim and 3 dead cops? I bet you make all this revolutionary comments from your bourgeois and comfy house. You don't know that "laws" and "procedure" son't mean shit out in the jungle were your life can end in a matter of seconds.

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    9. ¿Justicia?
      NONE of you who demand rights and justice for secuestros y sicarios have looked down the gun barrel of a cuernos. Piso o plomo. It is not funny and the people have no jokes for you. The people are mean to la gente sin armas. If you think the sicarios are worth canciones you are a sick motherfucker.

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    10. 3:19 obviously you do not live in Mexico. Every drug corridor and plaza municipalities are 100% in bed with narcos. The government reported this themselves. You cannot possibly understand what it is like. We Mexicans are afraid. We have no where to go, not police, not the press, not the feds, because we can't be sure. If we talk we die but worse so to our family. it is how they keep us in the grip of terrorism. They cops are pigs. they are narco cops. where is the victim? not even a name, no witness came forward to the press. nothing. the cops imo were disrupting something else, sent by narcos. why the hell were they on motorcycles? How fucking stupid can you get? does that sound ridiculous?
      in the us if this happened people would be marching, why? because they get it, that if cops extrajudicial kill, every citizen suffers. we know that also. if in the us 6-12-27-44 people killed by police they would be at the door of the whitehouse. we want the same. The #43 the world press banged the globe about, wasn’t even correct. It was 50 killed. Including a 15 year old soccer player. The press should have investigated and wrote about the ongoing killings of normalistas, and we think osario chong is the author because he hates the schools and wants them closed. Keeping indigena uneduated so they can be robbed and cheated. Who killed in Iguala? The nasty police bastards and narcos. A investigation is the best course to protect people.
      we want to be able to call the police when we need help, to trust our government, and not left asking ourselves wtf happen? why? and left to imagine what occurred, and argue about theories. we want the same as you, to see justice unfold, evidence presented, and the court decide. sure we have issues with our system of justice, we have issues with all levels of government. but one wrong doesn't justify another. and in these situations the highest price is paid.

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    11. "Kidnap At The Car Wash," sounds like bad disco...My wish for all kidnappers is that they rot in hell. More's the pity that places like Mexico & Colombia don't leave the women in charge of meting out justice to kidnappers. In both countries, the police & governments are greedy, corrupt, the very real enemy of the people. The rich get fatter, the poor starve. Narco $ keeps both governments and officialdom at its service. In Mexico and Colombia, there is no one to trust. The last thing anybody wants is the police anywhere near their lives in either country. We'll never know why these 8 people are dead or what's behind this tragedy. Reasons for kidnappings involving children can be more complex, but most kidnappings are about money/property, even if a specific instance of the crime is touted as being a political one. My thoughts are with the victims' families.

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    12. Hey 11:37 how is the gay mayor doing? Did he get to be a federal congressman on his way to the senators hip or governorship of the state of zacatecas? He told the monreales to not spi up to heaven , because they have robbed and stole too...and so what, people like "them" deserve all the best, even million pesos worth of "palapas"...at home, paid from the municipal treasury...

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    13. Secretario de Educacion emilio chuayffet chemor is the one that hates Ayotzinapa when not hating on all the other normal rurales, he has also murdered before as ernesto zedillo's Secretario de Gobernacion, the US refuses to extradite zedillo's jundillo because he is their boy...
      --The #43 is about the disappeared the people killed were at least recovered...

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    14. Looks like the snake has turned the table on the eagle. Time for a new Mexico flag.

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  2. The only problem I see here is that the police 👮 men died. The criminals should all get killed on site.

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    1. municipal police are corrupt, in bed with organized crime. not just a few, full departments. remember lalo Moreira execution? police including the chief gave him to zetas.

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    2. As a female, I can tell you that girl could not have known there would be a kidnapping and possible confrontation, wearing a dress and high platforms. The shoes require skill to stay steady walking , and not for running or unusual activity for sure.

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    3. Have you thought that maybe she was dressed like that to distract or bait the kidnapped victim??? That she knew all along what was gonna happen? Lets think of the 3 man who wnt b going home to their families.

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    4. I hate how just because shes a woman you give her the benefit of the doubt. Women are just as capable for grusome acts. Dont women want equality? Well that bullet to her head sure didnt discriminate.

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    5. 5:39PM at a car wash?

      well ok, and what if she was with her boyfriend and they were carjacked and made to drive some of the alleged kidnappers to the car wash?
      The point is we will never know. That is what courts are for. do you think it is just for this girl to be raped and left to be photographed with her dress hiked up? what if that was your daughter? she looks so young. the young guy has his pants pulled down clearly seen in other photos not represented here but on face book.

      see what happens when we don't know the facts? we are left to guess and argue. the kids were killed more likely because dead men can't talk.

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    6. No info on the wounds that killed the police officers? Sometimes they die from friendly fire, and the whole thing is started for that purpose, nothing else, and getting rid of the suspected criminals makes it a 100% score...

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    7. Ever wonder why no-one trusts the police in Mexico?
      Cause they routinely do shit like this..

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    8. @9:25pm yea ur right we will never know the truth if she was part of it but look at her face its not of one that was scare cause she wasn't part of it... U r right no one deserve what they did to her but also no one has claimed that she wasnt

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  3. Police seriously pissed off,executed all of them?The two in the truck bed look resigned to what's going to happen..The police tried to render first aid then tossed them down a hill like rubbish..They don't play Tom and Gerry in old Mexico...

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  4. I'm happy to know the police 👮 killed the two surviving criminals. In Mexico we don't have capital punishment the only ones who apply the death 💀 penalty are the criminals. Ojo por ojo cabrones.

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    1. you are an idiot. educate yourself. I expect those outside out borders to think like you, what do they care, it is just Mexico. but they caused riots when a thug is killed by police

      we can't allow this shit to happen. what if the girl did not know what was going down, or what if these aren't the facts? where is the kidnapped victim? we will never know.. celebratory knee jerk reactions are playing into those who control us. It is a easy leap to kill innocents, to make them disappear to rape, police agencies and fed forces alike. not just the bad ones do these things. and as long as we say "go get em, yeah" then they can take justice into their own hands and become judge and executioner, when they decide and say the dead were bad people.

      and mexico will remain corrupt and without law and order, nor justice. be careful what you cheer for. justice denied to one is justice denied to all

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    2. Amazing how all the would be kidnappers got "killed in combat from their combat wounds" or "died as a result of combat"
      --MURDER, SHE SAID...the police should not be taking care of criminals like this just to leave no witness alive, they may say who was behind the attempted kidnapping, I do not see how you render first aid by throwing people to the curb...
      --@1:08 @12:55 sucks socks, supressing "witnesses-perps-suspects" does not help the police case at all, that puts the police below the criminals, and we know that is where they belong, I have never seen one case of people that die from wounds resulting from a crash that include bullet wounds to the head bullshit, but I see some people lap it up...

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    3. Keep your bleeding heart to your self. The only justice should be immediate. Corrupt judges, politicians and EPN, only care about payouts. One of the honest heroes rots in prison STILL.Dr Mierles.

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    4. Fuck that shit..Imagine your sister cousin whatever.They executed the girl for being there,that shit can't be right anywhere..You havin a laugh or what?

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    5. 8.36
      Nothin to do with bleeding hearts man.
      Where does it stop?Why have courts human rights an all that bollocks if we got people like you who say ' where is the problem killing people under arrest'
      Maybe you could get plugged for stealing nickers when under arrest?
      We need cops who protect citizens and caught criminals alike,unsavoury but it has to be,ortherwise cops can kill anyone they feel like,even you or me?

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    6. Well, Doctor Mireles made a mistake, he only asked peña nieto to not kill him, he did not ask to be left alone or free, he is lucky he did not get kidnapped, tortured, killed or just disappeared, maybe peña nieto's new boyfriend "el bronco" rodriguez is working on this "difficult judiciary case"...but I doubt it...

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  5. Looks like the first fotos show the woman's body nude below the waist. I'd say they shot they guy, and then raped her and then shot her:

    http://www.sinembargo.mx/14-08-2015/1450760



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    1. And this way they can not implicate any accomplisses who may not of been at the scene of actual kidnapping.

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    2. Here is an idea, pop out a rape kit and actually run the DNA from the swabs, and then actually ask why they killed her, after the rape. Was it vengeance or cover up??????

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    3. That's funny!! Who do u think is gonna run the DNA swabs?? The same guys that committed the rape n murder. Guess what those results would be

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  6. If I was president of Mexico I would have gotten a massive loan from Germany, Australia and Japan and allow them access to resources in my country. Next I would've presented a massive job creation reform to reconstruct All the major cities thus creating millions of jobs, raising the pay to where the maximum one would get paid is 600 weekly while taxing them to make the annual payment for the loan. Then I would've reformed the education system to where it will be MANDATORY for anyone under 16 to attend school while providing scholarships to the youth to attend college to meet the demand for teachers and skilled workers. While all this is happening I would've shrunk the size of the government and fired all governors, mayors, police chiefs and military generals and set up clean elections voted by the people for the people. As everyone sees the dramatic changes in the country, I would've secretly passed the use of capital punishment and legalized the death penalty to where if a person has committed 2 or more murders or has killed someone in a heinous matter they will be shipped to a private prison specifically made for those convicted and sentenced to death and be put down within a month. This will make a statement to any criminal wishing to cause destruction to society that your actions will not be tolerated and you will be killed by my government of course in a humane matter. I would've urged for any undocumented citizens living in the US to return to their homeland as there will be no need to escape your country to make a living somewhere else where you get judged and despised on for simply living in their land. This is a summary of what I would do if you want to know more of my plan in detail or want to express your opinions please feel free to respond.

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    1. This is a good start. If only there was ever a president this smart, I bet they all go in without knowing what to really expect without any back up plans. I like your way of thinking.

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    2. Hope you don't mind having only a handful of people working. The way that place is getting, your death row facility would be your largest funding. Most of your so called citizens would be shipped there.

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    3. @4:00 there is one ton and a half missing from your project, but...
      --Foreign loans are sought, granted, even offered to the mexican governing narco-mierdocracia every day, and ALL THE MONEY GETS PROMPTLY STOLEN BY THEM SATRAPS, and left in foreign banks, in the name of the of the satraps who obtained them, all the foreign banks have to do later is come and appropriate and take ownership of their new property...they all get away with it thanks to the guns and training the US provides for the giniral gorillas that uphold their homeland and government in power, they are another mexico of the vendepatrias...
      --Your theories are, sadly, full of shit, they have been tried, they have all failed, Milton friedman, any rand, Ann Coulter and Paul ryan, are also blind, they can not see that their politics is what has europe coming back to mexico, america, and the US to re-colonize the leftovers on the banana republics, because their EU and euros are failing all over their rancid countries full of austere shit and voodoo economics.

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    4. Too bad you will never get voted in. You would have to play ball with who ever runs the show secretly in the background.

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    5. 'for simply living in their land'
      Let 100s of homeless live in your home right now in Mexico?Course not....
      Does the US have a right to try and protect itself from criminality?

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    6. That would make you dictator not president. Lack of capital punishment is not the problem, corruption and no rule of law is.



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    7. A lot of what you say would be good to enact in the U.S.
      Start with cops. For years they have routinely brutalized and murdered prisoners and innocent people and gone unpunished. Only now, thanks to technology and a sudden interest in the phenomenon, is the practice being documented.
      Jobs? All of the good ones have vanished since 2008. That's not opinion, but fact backed by economic studies.
      The sad truth is the Mexicans sneaking into the U.S. haven't the skills or education to make it on either side of the border. They're no different than gringos who live in the southern U.S. Visit Arkansas, Mississippi, Alabama, etc. and you will find millions of gringos living in squalor. Just like you see in the movies, only real. So, careful about looking down your nose at Mexico.

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    8. Your solution, while incomplete, would do a ton of good in ANY nation. Guatemala, Haiti,Dominica, Nigeria or any of the fucked up states we are saddled with.
      Would put a variation of it to work when I become Presidente here.

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    9. If the shit rolls down hill, you take the hill and plug the source of the shit, that would be presidents, lawmakers, their lobbyists and the employers of the lobbyists that make them all move tail as needed...
      --Getting too busy with corrupt police officers will lead nowhere fast...

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    10. Illegal mexicans living wherever they can, are paying for all they got, your complaints about them you can archive where the sun don't shine, we have highly paid lobbyists protecting illegal in migration and residence in the US, while we can not make the price to get all we want yet, we are working on it, driving legal residents and citizens to the temporary employment agencies to the jobs where they can't cut it, simply put, they ain't hungry enough, with the full paid for complicity of governments from all parties and factions... surprise!!!

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  7. Good job by the police! Keep up the good work! Sorry for the loss of your fellow officers, may they rest in peace.

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  8. Whatever,i hate to see the girl ending up like that,they executed them and left her with her dress pulled up, the fuckin clowns..Can anyone see her runnin round there with an AK bangin away on police?Who knows,but i doubt it with 4 dudes there?

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  9. The way they killed the two in the truck bed makes them no better than the criminals they killed. It's cowardly. Kill them when everything is going down not after the fact with hands tied behind their backs. #fuckthepoliceregardless

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  10. Not cool executing females like that

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  11. Is Tabasco still a Zetas enclave?

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    1. as far as i know, yes, tabasco's under zeta dominance.

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    2. That is el mamito's land, kidnapping is reserved to los setas and the police, do not mess with their bread and butter, everyone should leave the state of Tabasco and come to the US, ILLEGALLY...

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    3. @1049... Never saw the point in the minuteman group on our southern border but now I do if there are others who think as moronically as you do.

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    4. 12:58 I have never seen your "Minutemen" minuteness in action preventing the US weapons merchants from supplying the mexican governing narco-mierdocracia that murder the mexicans at will, just because they took care of making it all look "legal on paper"...
      --Hey, how about the minute men investigating the planes crashed/landed, were captured in Operation Mayan Jaguar? They were CIA, AIR AMERICA OWNED...
      --they also had about 16 tons of cocaine on board...Yucatan Peninsula...

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  12. El Chive has been collared visiting his brother in hospital in Tampico,his picture has been released,its him...

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    1. hey thanks! I was working on the post. I heard there was fotos of the weapons and I saw one but the gold plated pistol was not in the loot. .

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    2. Lucio,there are other pics of him,getting arrested,and one with his shirt off pointing the gold plated shooter,they must have made him hold it up?

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    3. Do you remember where you saw that? I looked at all the usual places and came up empty. The hospital I am guessing because it was in lock down for a couple hours yesterday, no one allowed out or in.

      I would like the foto of the gun, I will check a couple other places. thanks

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    4. My cousin sent me the fotos, I just posted.

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    5. Ok man,thanks for your work

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  13. We will never know the truth.

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    1. Learn to read the crime scene, it has usually been manipulated and ruined by the police on purpose and it still points fingers at the motherfucking police, even probably just because the police liked the girl is why they got persecuted and murdered, do you trust too much the police?
      --I do not, not at all, not with all the people they killed and satanize...

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  14. It is so sickening hearing people say what these criminals deserve according to so called laws. They deserve their fate. As for the media making the police guilty of killing them, oh well. After working their jobs for so long and seeing innocent killed and continuous graphic crime scenes, I am sure it has taken its toll on them psychologically. Do cops get evaluated for mental issues after all this? Of course not, there is no time for that. If they continue being as brutal as the criminals, but towards the criminals, maybe the jails will have room and less revolving doors. Mexico has no laws. They are written but not enforced. Too many criminals get out and continue the crimes. Just do like the old days and take them out back and put an end too it. Good for the police!!!!!!!!

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    1. Idiot. You're too stupid to see that you're supporting the same thing you're bitching about.

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    2. 10:37 good for the police!!!!!!!!
      ...why, do they buy all your pumpkin seeds? Only a pinchi piojosa like you would say that, fack da' po-lice...and their viejas...

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  15. I know the cops aren't much better than the criminals, but they really do need to start wiping these people out, you're not going to rehabilitate a team of kidnappers with jail.
    show kids that rival cartels is not your only worry when you chose that life.

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  16. Obviously they failed the first aid course!

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  17. We will never know the truth ?, ha ha ha , we know most of it but for a few pigs know the real truth, there was no reason for the pigs to beat , rape and murder the girl , uncalled for ,these pigs are no better than the criminals , the military should of arrested them , on the spot , oh I forgot this is not the U.S. , this should be breaking news in Mexico, in the U.S. If our own cops did this they would not be on the streets they would get arrested for acting like animals , because only animals do this 2 women after she has surrended , I mean the crime scene is on video , I wouldn't be surprised if the pigs video tape it , I do know this these pigs are dead men because they have shown their faces , I mean u can see the fear in her face , just utter desperation , i think orders are coming from the president 2 kill criminals on the spot I mean how calming do the pigs look like no care I the world , like I said before ha ha ha we know what happened, well most of it if the pigs would of kept the girl for Intel , what a world we live

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  18. Mexican Lives Matter!
    Hilarious!

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    1. Really you let this ignorant comment post.

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    2. Josie, she let your comment in too!!! WOW!

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  19. I think they shot her then raped her

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    1. How do you know that's not what they did !!

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  20. Kidnappers ? They got what they deserved ! Justice was served once again .

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  21. Man,3 brothers wiped out of a family,that is heavy shit.Talk about leavin a hole,and the poor girl was probably along for the ride..
    Now look at them,you cannot sanction or condone shit like this if you want to live in a decent society.Who here supports kidnap,rape,murder,of course no one does,but police cannot execute who they feel like,even if we abhor what these mutts do?

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    1. They never had a chance.Only suffering a difficult life just.to make a living!Pray for them please have a heart and donate to their funerals because they have mothers too!

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    2. @115... Get the fuck outta here with your "have a heart" comment. Those idiots stop caring about what their mother thought of them once they got involved in that life. Why should society care now??

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    3. Facts have been coming out, the mexican cops are murdering rapists...
      --you should not be condemning people just because known corrupt government sicarios accuse them of being communist kidnapping narcoterroristas and prostitutes or both, WITHOUT PROOF OF CRIMES, OR CONNECTIONS...
      --bet your mama's calzones, not one police officer would pass the lie detector or accreditation examinations in tabasco, and very few in the whole country would...

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    4. @1014... The truth of the matter is this. These "police officers" are pulled from the same people/ society accusing them of soo much wrong- doing and corruption. The mexican people only have themselves to blame for allowing this to happen because it is the same people who become "police officers" just like in every other country. Reap what you sow mexico.

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  22. No sorrow for these criminals here. In most cases if you are not out doing bad things than usually you are ok. However this is Mexico we are talking about. Who is weeping the thousands of innocent people not yet found? If this what it takes to eliminate eveil than do it. These are not just criminals. They are terrorists. Constantly killing, kidnapping and extorting. Just kill them. Sorry it is a forum for comments and opinions. Many may not agree with mine, but I am sure any of their victims that survived would. I feel no sorrow for that woman as she had other choices she probably could have made and this was the one she chose.

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    1. Yes this forum include opinions pendejas, there is no death penalty in mexico, but it should apply to those who execute extrajudicially, if the prisons are full of convicted felons who confessed while being tortured is the government problem, murdering accused suspects is a crime anywhere, and attempts to satanize the dead are nothing new, wonder why?

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    2. amen, brother. Just get rid of them!

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  23. QUOTE: “They were not animals to be gunned down like that. Everyone is supposed to have rights.”

    Really? Laughable. These animals deserve to be killed quickly and as inhumanely as possible. A message must be sent that terrorizing the public, via kidnappings and extortions, will NOT be tolerated.

    Thank you, police officers.

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    1. How do we know they are guilty of a crime? Lack of due process and rule of law is the problem not the solution. Until Mexico realizes that it will be stuck in the same hell. This week it will be the police who are murderers, exacting revenge on those they pronounce "guilty" without trial. Next week it will be the cartels. The following week someone else, then back to the police. Around and around and around, down down down, o change ever until due process and rule of law is found.

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    2. @508... Yah, I'm sure their hands were absolutely spotless. Explain to me again how they managed to kill 3 police officers.

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    3. You are accusing the dead of killing police officers, explain how it happened, from a runaway small car, with 6 people inside...
      --where are the ballistics, the weapons used and the autopsy reports, the reports from the surviving officers, reports from the supervises or commanders, witnesses reports, the intended kidnapping victim...
      --It all looks like a big pile of shit, and you are sticking to it like a fly on a pig's ass...
      PENDEJO/A

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    4. And a fuckin pendejo like you can't look at things logically because of your hate and mistrust. Again, explain to me how these police officers died?? Or let me guess, they killed themselves just to make the incident look believable?? I'll wait for your fact filled and concise response.

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  24. Looks like government propaganda is winning the battle for your minds, too many people with preconceived ideas of guilty against the accused kidnappers, accused, by the murderous government...

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    1. Facts and common sense are what people see my friend. Explain to me how they managed to shoot and kill 3 police officers. Maybe they weren't so saintly and deserved what they got. Just a thought.

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    2. facts and common sense, you can't handle facts and common sense...
      --Ask any real sniper how you can shot dead three motorcycle riding cops from a small runaway car packed with six people during the chase...
      --Not even the American Sniper...
      --you are too quick to lend your ears to any bullshit and lap it up, mister sister...

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