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Monday, March 4, 2013

11 die in Sinaloa state

A total of 11 individuals, including four municipal police agents have been killed in 24 hours in the western Mexican state of Sinaloa, including seven found dead in one incident Monday morning, according to Mexican news accounts.

A news account which appeared on the website of El Universal news daily said the seven victims were found aboard a Jeep SUV which had been incinerated near the village of  Ojo de Agua in the Aguaverde section of Rosario municipality, in far southern Sinaloa state.

Four of the victims were local police agents identified as José Guadalupe Toledo Barron, David Vazquez Canizales, Antonio Cárdenas Aguiar and Luis Alberto Crespo Peralta.  Two of three other victims were civilians identified as Gustavo Salcido Corrales and José Alfredo Lopez Cazarez.

Police found 90 spent cartridge casings at the scene from .45 caliber, 9mm, AR-15 and AK-47 rifles.  The victims were reportedly kidnapped Sunday night.

Rosario municipality is about 20 kilometers south of Mexico Federal Highway 40, Mexico's northernmost contiguous east-west highway running coast to coast, from the Sinaloa port city of Mazatlan to northern Tamaulipas state.

According to the news account four other unidentified individuals were murdered in Sinaloa state, two in San Ignacio municipality, which is north of Rosario and two in the community of El Tecomate.

Chris Covert writes Mexican Drug War and national political news for Rantburg.com

68 comments:

  1. Excellent article. It is informative and easy to read. It is a shame that we can read about 11 people killed as if it were expected, regarding Mexico. Abduct and kill police agents in the U.S. and the government will unleash hell upon you. I wish the cartels would get spanked hard for these autrocities.

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  2. CDS cells killing each other....good riddance.

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  3. March 5, 2013 at 12:37 AM Dude, the difference is that these "police agents" were almost certainly working for one of the cartel factions. You have the idea that they are innocent victims doing their jobs - NOT!

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    1. And you're do sure of this because????? While it's unfortunately / more than likely, unless you have some insider information I don't think it's right to make assumptions about the dead. Were those 70 migrants involved / associated? Didn't think so. Regardless that's not justification for what's going on - the problem begins with the level of impunit. The reason the US government will find/prosecute/kill cop-killers is due to.a (at least.semi) functioning justice / L.E. system.

      Whoever mentioned.Chapo Isidro - is this in the area.he operates in?

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    2. Chapo isidro and his Maxatlecos operate in Northern and Southern Sinaloa,as well as in other states. But according to sicarios of chapo isidro that have been captured he has around 300 elements in Northern Sinaloa.

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  4. I wonder if the people in Sinaloa that support the narcos and the capos enjoy living in this violent environment?

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    1. Its either you grow up supporting the narcos or you leave the state,because thats the way it is.

      Theres very few people that support the government atleast ,in la sierra where my family is from,because they never have gotten help,attention,or any kind of support from the government.There are no jobs and no form of making money,so they do what they can,grow weed,heroin,and that large portion of people that were left LiTerately to starve by the government,next thing you know become very organized and Pam you get a Carillo Fuentes, a Chapo and a huge number of followers that rather support the narcos,most of the time its an economic problem,and since the government turned their backs on them is only logical they do the same.

      SO they unite and became organized to prevent intruders,Mexican Government as they see the military that arrives occasionally,only to go around robbing and killing the only way they know,violently.When the military comes the narcos act as civialians and hide their guns but the military know they arent wanted and most of time are received by gunfire.

      I rather support drug traffickers that provide jobs for their community than the mexican.government that can care less about its people.

      So its like this,im talking about la sierra madre,you support Narcos or you starve to death along with your family.What you think the large majority of the people choose? Try not having nothing to eat for days,it feels great.

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  5. theres a saying in mexico that 90% of police are corrupt. the other 10% are killed by the cartels.

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    1. Would agree ten years ago, you would and maybe still can tell as soon as u reach the "puente", but have noticed in the last trips a LITTLe diffrence especially with the newly graduated personnel. Maybe haven't been corrupted, but could tell the difference.

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  6. JAGL CDS and BLO vs Pacifico MZ
    Chapo Isidro hiding out , the Heat getting hotter..
    Torres Meza Felix siding with Chapo JAGL, and Members of Antraxx have sided with JAGL while others loyal to thefactions related.to MZ...
    ThinkTank 28.7 Narcovision

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    1. How do u know this? Is this youre opinion or you actually have sources? Im just curious im not trying to be a smart ass.

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    2. Y esa jalada que chapo vs mayo no mames k pendejo

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    3. Please be so kind and research things and stop.just going by what some news outlets want you to know....You know cartels control a lot of these newspapers , ask Sergio Grande Villarreal he paid of many newsoutlets...

      Chapo and MZ business are seperate ...
      the cells from both are fighting

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    4. Casio Cambio VZs money laundering chain.
      They didn't do their homework buying CIA planes and doing trafficking work don't go hand in hand...before all this Chapo had a lawyer still.does named Humberto Loya who was doing the cartel bidding with DEA officials
      why VZ tried to cut a seperate deal with the DEA is still mind boggling..when you already had the DEA in your pocket, my Intel says he tried to cut a seperate deal.to try and get a CIA deal too. Cuz they got everybody from beginning to end on this one , trust me VZ is being debriefed and is exposing all to tell..

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  7. chapo isidro a huebo

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  8. ThinkTank 28.7 Narcovision
    How do you know this man,are you in Culiacan?And if what you sayin is happening,is it without the main mens approval,or are they actively steppin to each other?And dude im just askin you politely with no bullshit,so dont go off on one.I seen you been sayin this for a minute,and no-one believing.So who you think did these cops?You know yourself there are many factions going off there,anyway be cool now,,,,,,,

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    1. Let me.put it like this....MZ moved Familia and assets to Tijuana, and lives in the green zone, as MZ made a pact with CAF /FSO , To operate there , all the tunnels they finding are chapos, MZ people are in decline in Sinaloa , ask M1, also MZ cells feuding with g.n. cells , and in mexicali , macho Prieto left MZ as well, read the The New Zeta article about this...if you don't believe it, I can't change a person's perspective..


      MZ grupo made pact with arch rivals of JAGL, the CAF /fso to do business and live there with payment. That is is how los.Garibay got tied to CAF again....Macho Prieto robbed MZ people of much dope and gave it to cells of JAGL to sell.back in the market...also la Cabrera was JAGL group tied then broke away and tied to
      MZgrupo

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  9. @3:25pm

    Your saying chapo and mayo are beefing? Where you get that from they've been partners for 30 years.DDoesn't seem too likely

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    1. VZ trial google Casio.cambio and the CIA plane that brought VZ and MZ trouble...the.fact that VZ cut a deal.with the DEA over the head of Chapo and humberto loya the cds lawyer.....the fact that Flores bros. got wiretapped calls more than they let the public onto that has vz being debriefed in a DEA-CIA process room

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  10. its funny the people who really believe that chapo and mz are going against each others.

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    1. Chapo isidro and Beltran leyvas are goin so strong that people want to believe its CDS fighting each other!!!!

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  11. That guy is trippin chapo and mayo ain't beefing its bad for buisness

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  12. @9:48pm i think he means there underlings.

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  13. "its funny the people who really believe that chapo and mz are going against each others"
    Dude,thats why we asking,cause its hard to believe,no-one"really believe"thats why the question?Who knows,the dude could know something,or he could be taking the piss big time?Whatever thats what this is for.

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  14. with the death of M1 el Ondieado and the arrest of El Fantasma , Chapo Isidro hit team is having a fun month in Sinaloa . Is Time for Chapo and Mayo to bring back Commando X, Los Antrax and los 300 Talibanes

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  15. El Chapo Mayo and Azul alliance is still intact .Our inteligence agents just had a meeting and some drinks with them yesterday at 14:00.

    Atte:CIA Special Activities Division

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  16. 3/6 6:53AM,
    There are some other things one could try...like move, relocate, go where the opportunities are! It's an excuse to say...I have to do this or I will starve! The same excuse your coming up with for justifying criminal activity...is the same path that will lead to a "families" demise! There are literally hundreds of thousands of Mexican's, who find a "better way," than getting involved in cartel business...the cartel business is the quick and easy way..but it's the quickest way to destroy your family..either by death or incarceration!

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    1. Its not justifying criminal activities,because in la sierra its not viewed as a criminal activity,its viewed as a job.You see the difference?

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  17. Atte:CIA Special Activities Division
    "El Chapo Mayo and Azul alliance is still intact .Our inteligence agents just had a meeting and some drinks with them yesterday at 14:00"
    Ok dude....What does your source say about Lazcanos donkey ?

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  18. The book "daughters of juarez" was the first book I read about juarez and I couldn't believe half of it until I read a few more. It is obviously the police who are doing half of this crap. Disarm the citizens and they are devoured by the wolves, all in the name of public safety. How can you have a right to live but no right to defend it?

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  19. U would be saying this a few says ago u were special operational group now ur S.A.D that what u really are SAD thinking this is COD peace LOKs

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  20. some of ya'll talk shit to or shit about ThinkTank 28.7 Narcovision posts but he knows what hes talking about. is blo and chapo isidro not together anymore ThinkTank 28.7 Narcovision???

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    1. Chapo Isidro is his.own group now he took over la oficina and incorporated cells of BLO That end.their reference.as BLOzzzzzz. BLO mochomo is pacted back with Chapo Guzman, meaning cds JAGL is alliance with BLO...blood family ties...Chapo isidro is own operator with his los.mazatec groups and blozzzz groups and gets operational support via Zs....

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    2. What group is JAGL stand for so many groups out there I wonder how they even keep track JAGL any one meaning ?

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    3. Chapos isidro has his group but are still loyal to el h hes got to where he is at by arturo and his brothers theres is no way el h will chapo isidro walk away
      remember how he let la barbie walk away

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  21. Mayo knows better to go against Chapo.

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  22. March 6, 2013 at 6:53 AM
    "SO they unite and became organized to prevent intruders"
    Straight to the point brother,telling it as true as it gets,where the fuck have you been?Keep postin dude good stuff and everyone would do the same thing as you stated,no big deal,it is what it is.

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  23. 12:05 PM
    "There are some other things one could try...like move, relocate"
    How do you know,are you from the Sierra as that dudes family are?He is telling it like it is with no bullshit or malice,if you want to eat and continue to live in Mexico as a Mexican is that ok with you?
    Why should they have to move?Why not go into what the people do?
    Its sounds almost traditional for generations now,if it was me,you bet your ass im doing it to help my family.

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    1. That would be a very hard choice to make.i cant imagine having to make it but i think i would personally would rather go hungry for a bit and try to move rather than keep watching my family and friends keep getting kidnapped and murdered.that would be even harder to live with than hunger and i have been poor and hungry before.if you dont want to move and youre right you shouldnt have to cause thats your land but i would arm myself to the teeth if i decided to stay.thats just my opinion

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  24. @ ThinkTank.....
    Does seem to make sense,the Mayo thing, moving TJ,CAF,VZ,Cabrera/FlacoGN were warring big with Nuñez Meza brothers,now they independent,Manuel Torres Felix getting killed,Macho Prieto troubles,Phantasma caught slippin?He sure seems to know more than most of us,so people lets hear what he says without the bullshit.

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  25. Female cop and couple kidknaped in Escuinapa, Sinaloa. Witnesses stated that armed men in 7 or 8 vehicles with the letter z sign on the side of vehicles took the cop. Authorities believe the armed men might have some to do with the dead cops and civilians found in Rosario.

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  26. All you doubters research the Humberto loya angle...
    Flores Bros. key witnesses...... MZ Familia and associates making a a pact with CAF /FSO....
    also the M.P. angle and the Garibay MZ angle......
    atte..28.7ThinkTankNarcovision

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  27. It is well known fact that MZ is paying CAF to move his work thru TJ. Also weren't some of MZ nieces kidnapped in TJ a while back. If MZ was at war with CAF, why would the nieces go into TJ??!!??? One thing that has been said and I don't know how true it is, but apperantly when M1 El Ondeado found out that his son was killed by an order from CDS he went crazy and Chapo told him to cool his shit or he would be dealt with. Then Ondeado gets killed. So apperantly El Chapo turned in Ondeado and in return MZ turned in El Fantasma. Ondeado was MZ right hand man, Fantasma was Chapos operator. Makes sense tit-for-tat.... Now I've herad that Macho Prieto has beef with MZ?? I thought he controlled Sonora for MZ, also heard that MP won't go into Culiacan because he knows that as soon as he steps into Sinaloa he's dead. So is he still from MZ group, or with CDS?? According to a comment earlier he stole from MZ and re-sold it to Chapo, I would imagine tat that would be a sure death sentence if he did that!!


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  28. I heard that the cartels are running out of members with all these killings and the fighting will soon be over.

    Acapulco here I come.

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  29. This is getting exciting!!!!....oops sorry Chivis:)

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  30. M1 was abandoned by MZ and Macho Prieto was pushed out to Mexicali because of a switch of his org.
    Tijuana is MZ greenzone, cuz he paying.the tax 10 fold to have a safe have for his Familia as they can stay in Tijuana or get into California with ease. It's believed that Chapo Guzman didn't.agree with the deal by MZ and more tension between the cds defactos arose. That's why all the tunnels in Tijuana are JAGL owned and operated. Gordo Mayito bodyguard was captured.in Tijuana as well as some of MZ nephews , The nieces were abducted against policy that is why that perpetrator was quickly dealt with. CAF the Horse and La Jefa made the pact happen with MZ.

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  31. El H runs BLO not Mochomo .BLO is still at war with CDS.Chapo Mayo Azul are partners with independent business in different markets sometimes their cells clash with each other.M1 son was killed by Arturo people along with zetas.M1 was killed by marines wrong place wrong time.Fantasma was captured by his mistake he was no longer a part of Chapo's inner circle. Macho Prieto works for Mayo .El Lic works for El Chapo.Its an illegal business that is run like a corporation .Nacho was not betrayed he was still working with Chapo but in an independent manner ,additional information is classified and cannot be disclosed.
    Atte: CIA Special Activities Division

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  32. Man hard to keep track of all this are you saying that BLO and CDS formed a pact that EL H is no longer with chapo isidrio I heard CDS CDG CT AND La CORONA are allied and against CJNG so who are JAGL ?

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    1. JAGL- Joaquin Archivaldo Guzman Loera aka Chapo el Señor de la montana

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  33. So anyone got any info on the two girl cops that where levantadas buy zetas in the southern part of sinaloa aguas ahy andan los zetas in sinaloa again
    jaja

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  34. JAGL is Joaquín Archivaldo Guzmán Loera,simple as that.C,mon brothers,get on it...Everyone keep postin good comments,comin with no shit talk.We can all be adults here,,,no ?

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  35. @ 28.7ThinkTankNarcovision
    No problems dude,keep it comin,you stirred it up here?

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  36. "Witnesses stated that armed men in 7 or 8 vehicles with the letter z sign on the side of vehicles took the cop"
    Do they run that place?The south of Sinaloa?Could they roll around like that identifying themselves in Sinaloa like that?Obviously the cops were aligned with CDS or whoever and they got taken?Why would Z be doing that so openly?Man,have you seen that Mazatlan/Tepic road?You get on that it goes all the way

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    1. Mazatlan is plaza of el 14. Beltran Leyva have huge numbers in Northern and Southern Sinaloa

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    2. Anf how do you know this because you heard one corrido and saw pictures of him hahaha dont be stupid manguera mazatlan is chapos terrotory im not on cds nuts but theres a reason they always arrest mazatlecos an some they commit suicide in prison hahaha a plaza boss doesnt send his people to extorsionate his plaza dumb ass

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    3. How do i know this? Mazatlan has been a Beltran plaza for a long time since el Chaguin was punking the Sinaloa Cartel remember? Cual corrido pendejo,no seras tu el halucinado.

      More like CDS sends sicarios that extort and say they are with the beltrans,but Samuel Lizarraga,Chaguins nephew is still present.This guys saying Chapo runs Mazatlan because they detain more beltrans than chapos in Mazatlan .

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  37. Echo 2
    "Also weren't some of MZ nieces kidnapped in TJ"
    Thats right bro,Juan Silllas Rocha,El Ruedas.A loony tune and a half,he also kidnapped El Muletas sister,and what a crew they are?He was a loony hitter for Fernando Sanchez,fighting against the Los Teos after a load was copped off El Teo who was backed by CDS.Ruedas was disowned by Sanchez,this dude was collared after his brother was caught,they had recorded talks where he sayin kill a whole family(5)cause they owed him money,he didn't care if the kids were killed to.What a fuckin skank he was.

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  38. About time jotos de snitchaloa get hit
    -ZETA DE GUANAJUATO.

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  39. @March 7, 2013 at 12:24 PM is there any zetas in guanajuato? all i hear is los caballeros templarios in that state?

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  40. @ 9:59AM

    Yeah, i remember hearing about Muletas sister, she was released a few days after unharmed, but was her husband/boyfriend beat or killed? I remeber hearing about El Teo beign backed specifically by El Chapo since teo and muletas were the ones shooting up TJ and leaving bodies "encobijados" wrapped up in blankets. It would make sense they worked under chapo since they were a guns-a-blazing style, and not low key like MZ. Funny how you always hear about chapos crews making all the noise, gente nueva in Juarez turned that into a war zone. The only one making noise for MZ was El Ondiado who didn't seem to give a fuck about who he killed. That swould make sense that MZ chose to get rid of him since he was coked up and drawing heat to himself and his crew, every other day they had a new corrido for him, shit he was actually posing for pictures. I remember reading somewhere that he was the most photographed capo. Every other capo/boss who has been photographed, those pictures are 10 years old or older, but not M1, he released pictures of himself as often as they released corridos of him. If it weren't for all the bloodshed and innocent victims caught up in this mess this would actually be entertaining and intriguing to follow. I don't feel bad for the crew memebers that get killed since they made the decision to join a cartel but I do feel for the inocent civilians and bystanders that get hurt when they are trying to make an honest living.

    Echo 2

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  41. Echo 2
    "If it weren't for all the bloodshed and innocent victims caught up in this mess this would actually be entertaining and intriguing to follow"
    True statement bro,you actually made me stop and think.Sometimes we lose the perspective that innocent people are being made to hurt in one way or another.Bro,it goes without saying we would rather not have this happening.About Ondeado bro,it does seem as though he started to believe all the corridos and shit about him,i think it shows he maybe was becoming a liability.You see the story about the mantas in Coahuila?El Dannys operate in Durango etc,heating it up you think,i kinda doubt it was put up by Z42,they been havin a war with Cabreras and anyone else they can think of?

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  42. @9:26

    I don't take pleasure of reading about this things, but it's reality. No matter how much the media bans or they choose not to report it does not change the fact that it doesnt happen. The way I see it this is the equivalent of a soap opera. Everybody is turning on each other, killing each other, setting each other up and trying to get the upper hand. Like I said befor if it weren't for the victims this would be fun to watch, but yeah we loose sight that whole families, mothers, sisters, kids are suffering becuse a loved one caught a stray bullet while they were trying to make it to saftey, or how business owners are beign shaken down and if they don't pay they get rob or business get burnt or worse kiled. This has gone beyond trafficking to outright terrorism. Back in the days when Rafael Caro Quintero and the old school real mafiosos were around there was none of this nonsense going on. Poeple weren't extorted tehy could actually walk out heir house without fear and now, you cant go to a corner store with out fear that you're going to get levantado, beat or killed. I read that story about 42 threating the pblisher, come on that his job, publish newspapers. You don't want your name in the paper then start creating chaos that puts your name in the paper.

    May God bless all the innocent and keep the kids and women out of it. May all this nonsense come to and end soon.

    Echo 2

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  43. Echo 2
    "but yeah we loose sight that whole families, mothers, sisters, kids are suffering"
    Bro,the most stark,heartbreaking story i see in a long time is "Chihuahua,a hell for women"The Juarez Femicides,a direct consequence of impunity through cartel influence.Bro,that kind of thing is something different,i don't understand that at all.How a man,can do that to young women,women?Thats a shame on Mexico bro,i have to say it,the individual storys of the young girls,man,it made me so angry,sad,if you look at the comments you see people feel the same way,they are a gift to us men bro,we are supposed to protect them,something gone wrong bro.Yeah,you made me think alright,and hopefully something like that will NEVER happen again.

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  44. March 9, 2013 at 10:33 PM
    Man,why the grimy shit?Brr tell it like it is,educate motherfuckers,,theres no need for the grimy shit.Brr,you get better comments comin back at you,people want to hear what the real is,,just sayin,its up to you,be cool now

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  45. March 10, 2013 at 5:25 AM
    "How do i know this? Mazatlan has been a Beltran plaza for a long time since el Chaguin was punking the Sinaloa Cartel remember"
    Thats right bro,Chaguin was a fuckin terror for a minute,until the army an shit killed him and his primo in his house,that clan are way dugin there,if you go into Mazatlan,how long before Mazatlecos are on your ass.

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