Neither the
federal authorities nor the state authorities dare to report what international intelligence agencies, such as
Stratfor, have reported; of exactly what the inhabitants of
of Jalisco and Michoacan are suffering; that the killings of the last days of
2012 and the beginning of the present year is caused by the conflict over
expanding territories between
the Knights Templar and the Jalisco New Generation Cartel, after emerging as the main groups in their native
entities.
Inhabitants
of the region, who feel at mercy of the criminals, report the dispute between Jalisco New Generation Cartel
(CJNG) and the Knights Templar that erupted before Christmas and continued during the first
weeks of January, is due to the conflict over
control of the ‘Jalmich’
territory (the border of Jalisco and
Michoacan).
The clash
between the groups in conflict has caused an increase in extortions of
civilians and the imposition of a parallel government, since the criminal
groups control the movement of the people and charge fees to merchants and
agricultural producers.
The cities of
Jalisco most affected by this war
are; Jilotlán de los Dolores, Pihuamo,
Tecalitlán, Quitupan, Mazamitla, San José de Gracia, Santa María del Oro, La
Barca, Atotonilco, Ayotlán, Tizapán El Alto y Degollado, Tuxcueca, Jocotepec
and Chapala.
In Michoacán,
the conflict has erupted in; Briseñas,
Yurécuaro, Sahuayo, Marcos Castellanos, La Piedad, Zamora, Cotija de La Paz,
Tepalcatepec, Los Reyes, Peribán and even Apatzingán, Tierra Caliente and
hundreds of kilometers of mountain zones.
The residents
of both states point out that the clashes
and the massacres in the zone was due to the advance of the Knight
Templar into Jalisco territory, the bloody reaction of the CJNG and the
incompetence of the authorities of both states to provide security.
“We are
fearful that sooner or later this region will explode into something more because of the
conflict over the territory is because of drug
trafficking, also the location of production zones of marijuana or illegal
substances".
"We don’t really know what is going on but we suppose that all these factors that are mentioned erupted in the wave of violence that ended the peace in dozens of towns”, says a 65 year old farmer, who asked to maintain anonymous.
"We don’t really know what is going on but we suppose that all these factors that are mentioned erupted in the wave of violence that ended the peace in dozens of towns”, says a 65 year old farmer, who asked to maintain anonymous.
Government employees know they can’t travel into several municipalities to conduct work,
even though their vehicles display state government license plates, consequently road
infrastructure and assistance for schools have gone incomplete or unaided due
to lack of security and supervision.
The
inhabitants of several municipalities are forced to pay a "war tax" to conduct their employment,
either milkman, butcher or baker. Also those that utilize sand and gravel banks
are charged.
“Sicarios
demand even small business owners (in this case a milk man)
pay the equivalent of three liters of milk for every ten liters they sell; farmers using the
threshing machines are charged 500 pesos for every thresh or 100
pesos for each hectare”, says a witness.
“Employees of
state that give health services or support to communities of
Jilotlan de los Dolores, Jilotlán de los Dolores, Tecalitlán, Quitupan and
adjacent villages, have to enter from the south, travelling the perimeter of
Michoacán territory to evade the criminals.
Citizens have known for years, that the region is out of the control of the Jalisco
government.. Explaining they came to the realization when the attack occurred on rural
police in October of 2010. In Jilotlan, at least 15 officers were
killed, although the authorities only reported nine.
October 2010 deadly attack on police; official tally was 9 officers killed, in reality it was 15 |
During the
recent wave of violence, Erika Esparza Mora, of 22 years old, was killed. She
was traveling Saturday January 5th in a
Frontier truck with her husband and her two year old daughter through the Guadalajara – Morelia road, in the
municipality of Tuxcueca, when they were attacked by members of the CJNG, who apparently confused
them with rivals of the Michoacán cartel (Knights Templar).
[Below:Maria Santos former Mayor of Tiquicheo-Templarios took responsibility for her killing]
The aggressors were in a black Avalanche truck and in a white Mitsubishi. According to witnesses, Erika’s husband stopped after seeing they were pursuing them, but when he noticed that the aggressors were armed, he tried to escape. Then the hit men started shooting.
Later, the
criminals realized their mistake and when they saw Esparza was seriously
injured, they told her husband to go. It was known later that the hit men’s Mitsubishi had
overturned and they escaped
aboard a stolen red Tahoe truck.
However, municipal police of Jocotepec managed to capture them and confiscated two .45 caliber guns, a .9 mm gun and three AR-15. At the scene of the crime 37 shell casings were found.
However, municipal police of Jocotepec managed to capture them and confiscated two .45 caliber guns, a .9 mm gun and three AR-15. At the scene of the crime 37 shell casings were found.
The commando
was formed of 10 individuals who said they were members of the CJNG, among them
five minors. They declared that that Saturday, they were patrolling the road to
Morelia and that in Tuxcueca, at the
junction to La Manzanilla, the gray recent model Nissan Frontier and no
license plates caught their attention.
The detainees
that were indicted to a criminal court by the Attorney General of Justice of
Jalisco and later sent to the penitentiary of Puente Grande are: Manuel
González Alonso, El Güero, 24 years old; Javier Ochoa Bautista, El Jaiba, of
30; Manuel Mercado Cruz, of 34; Francisco Ismael Grimaldo Mendoza, of 18; Pedro
Magallón Orozco, also of 18, and five teenagers between 15 and 17 years old.
CJNG Thugs that Killed 22 year old mother Erika Esparza Mora; the 5 turned away are juveniles, Mexico 'protects' their privacy. |
Sunday 6th,
at 8:45 am, the Rural Police was notified by Secretary of Public Safety of the
State about the discovery of seven corpses in Jilotlan de los Dolores, at the
height of Kilometer 17, over the road that takes to Tepalcatepec, Michoacán and
near the ranch El Terrero.
The victims
exhibited bullet wounds and were blindfolded, and gagged. The state and federal
authorities reinforced the surveillance in the limits of the two states and the
Public Ministry started the corresponding investigations.
At dawn of
the same Sunday, four men were riddled with bullets in a house in Ciudad Del Sol, in
Zapopan. One of the deceased was identified as David Alvarez Ayala, El R-4,
brother of two leaders of the CJNG: Ramon and Rafael, who was captured
September 9th of last year by the military in Napoles Street of Terranova
Development.
In Quitupan,
the state authorities picked up the corpses of three men executed in the square
of Montoso delegation. One of them was about 70 years old; another one was 50
and another one about 25. The three men were taken to Medical Forensic Service
for the autopsy and to try to identify them.
Monday 7th,
the director of Public Safety of San Miguel El Alto, Sara del Refugio Chavez
Rangel, was gunned down by sicarios using AK47s as she was exiting her home with her two bodyguards.
The body guards had no time to repel the attack. Despite the immediate mobilization of the police, the aggressors managed to escape.
The director sustained 7 bullet rounds resulting in her transfer to a Guadalajara hospital. One of her body guards was also transferred having sustained serious injuries.
The body guards had no time to repel the attack. Despite the immediate mobilization of the police, the aggressors managed to escape.
The director sustained 7 bullet rounds resulting in her transfer to a Guadalajara hospital. One of her body guards was also transferred having sustained serious injuries.
Chávez Rangel also had lead police corporations in
Guanajuato and in Ojuelos, Jalisco....continues on net page
Stratfor Reports:
Stratfor Reports:
A recent
report of the American Agency Stratfor warns that Jalisco and other Mexican
entities keep increasing offenses such as kidnapping and extortions as major
cartels move to diversifications to increase income.
In the digital edition of Thursday 17th of their site, , the specialized security and intelligence agency predicts this year the violence in the country will keep increasing.
In the digital edition of Thursday 17th of their site, , the specialized security and intelligence agency predicts this year the violence in the country will keep increasing.
Stratfor
also warns that the Zetas have expanded in the entity in the beginning of
2013, and that CJNG expanded their
operations. It also warns that the Knight Templar continue to advance in the
territory of Jalisco that for decades was considered to be controlled by
the Sinaloa Cartel led by Joaquin Guzman Loera, aka “el Chapo”.
It also
reports that the kidnapping, extortions
and attacks on authorities by criminal groups might intensify in the main
urban zones of the country such as Chihuahua, Nuevo León, Tamaulipas, Sinaloa,
Guerrero, Jalisco, Coahuila and Michoacán.
-click on any image to enlarge-
Further
reporting , that last year CJNG made mobilizations in states such as
Morelos, Colima, Michoacán, Guerrero and Quintana Roo, with the purpose of
controlling the traffic routes, but also continuing extortion and selling drugs
in retail in Veracruz and Colima.
According to
the same analysis, in April of 2012, the conflict between the Knights Templar
and the CJNG was clear, but it is not clear if in this confrontation the
Sinaloa Federation has any involvement , since the two groups have been its allies.
Several
factors suggest that the CJNG separated from the Sinaloa organization last year
after consolidating and beginning to expand. As an example, the intelligence
firm cites several banners placed in Jalisco with threats against the
organization of Michoacán and messages of La Resistencia against CJNG.
However,
Stratfor specified, nothing suggests that the operation zones or the capacity
of drug trafficking of the CJNG has decreased, since besides maintaining their
presence in the country, this organization continues to deliver their illicit
merchandise to the United States
and has the same capacity as other
dominant cartels. (indicating no decrease)
Notable is that
last year, the Knights Templar undeniably positioned themselves as successors
of the La Familia Michoacana, from which they separated in 2011: they now
dominate in their state and are fighting for Morelos, Guanajuato, Queretaro,
Guerrero and southeast of Jalisco.
The Stratfor
report cautions about the power of the
Zetas, that is considered the second
most dangerous cartel of the country and the most active “criminal organization
that operates in Mexico since 2012.
Even though the group did not extend their zone of operations in 2012, it managed to consolidate its operations in states where they already had an important presence.
Additionally, it demonstrated noticeable acts of violence in new territory, like Sinaloa”
Even though the group did not extend their zone of operations in 2012, it managed to consolidate its operations in states where they already had an important presence.
Additionally, it demonstrated noticeable acts of violence in new territory, like Sinaloa”
The agency
indicates that despite the relative decrease of the wave of violence in 2011,
the war of cartels for the control of the territories caused an impact in 2012.
Despite the
proposal to restructure the Federal Police in a “national gendarmerie”, with 10
thousand agents trained by the Army, many changes are not expected in the
strategy to combat crime in the next 11 months.
The report
was published in the middle of a violence increase in the limits of Jalisco and
Michoacán, chiefly from the confrontations between the Knights Templar and the
CJNG.
On Tuesday 22nd, some
unknowns placed in Tizapan El Alto, a banner where they reproach the Secretary
of Government, Miguel Ángel Osorio Chong, charging he is giving more support
against organized crime in Zacatecas, rather than Jalisco and Michoacán
The New Way of "Going to work" in Jalmich
Other citizens don't have the luxury of the federal police convoy guarding transport and work sites as the prison construction employees have in Tomatlán |
notice many use the same stratagy as the obama camp. play to the emotions. little children are dieing, ban guns!
ReplyDeletejust saw forum AJ U.S. Gun Deaths Since Sandy Hook Top 1,280 .
aj you missed your chance you should have clipped this
Every day approximately 151,650 people die in the world.
from www.census.gov
How Many People Die A Day?
Yesterday, I blabbered about Heath Ledger (promise, this is the last time) and was thinking to myself – how many people die in a single day? A quick Google search later and there appears to be a good idea according to the US Census Bureau.
According to the bureau, World Vital Events Per Time Unit for 2008 are:
Time unit Births Deaths Natural Increase
---------------------------------------------------------
Year 133,398,951 55,503,922 77,895,029
Month 11,116,579 4,625,327 6,491,252
Day 364,478 151,650 212,828
Hour 15,187 6,319 8,868
Minute 253 105 148
Second 4.2 1.8 2.5
These figures are astounding. Every day approximately 151,650 people die in the world. That just boggles my mind in the amount of sadness and pain there are every single day. On the other hand, 212,828 babies are born each day. That means more people are happy than sad.
Althought death is its necessary. Especially now that the world is getting crowded. Also statistics that are 5 years or older are practically useless.
DeleteThe world isn't overpopulated, just misplaneed zones of living. earth produces enough food to feed the population 2x over. Unfortunately no ones going to do that to feed the world and cities and towns are going to b misplanned. Its in our dna, to not really care much
DeleteI'm surprised yearly deaths are not much higher ... Stay safe people.
Delete- Junius
K.T. vs CJNG but it was K.t. /Los Coronels-La corona vs CJNG ...and let me add...CJNG is split into three groups, Mencho CJNG-CDS, Independent CJNG like Coronel people and others and the third group is Mata Zetas whohave moved to group.up with G.N. Now forming G.N. Jalisco Mata Zetas....Mencho group AnD Mata zetas tiedto JAGL, while the independents join and pact with different groups depending on the Zone...
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DeleteYou never disappoint me. This post is filled with information and news. the translation must have been a bitch so a big thank you from the northwest
ReplyDeleteCongrats Chivis, yo did a hell of a translation,
ReplyDeleteI read the original in Spanish.
I wonder where LFM is in all this.
ReplyDeleteThanks Chivis,great info in this one.
LFM still carry strong presence in.many regions of mexico (guerrero, the state of mexico, morelos,& etc) they also contraband in many areas of the border like tijuana to tamaulipas. Theirs rumors of them making peace with ct & other allies to take back mexico and finish los z's!! So far this alliance is bein effective they have taken back so many z' s territory!! This explains the massive murders in the state of mexico making it zetas-free territory by eliminating z's allies (small org./cartels)
DeleteAtt.knowledge
What going on in the towns of magdela, tequila and arenal. I heard it heat up.?
ReplyDelete@3:29 PM Nobody is banning guns. Your hair's on fire.
ReplyDeleteSo, gun deaths are OK because people die every day? Why even post this, it has nothing to do with the story?
Let them all die.......Chapo needs to die fast.....why dont they just start killing his family off one by one and then he will slip and they will get his ass........
ReplyDeleteIt is indeed very surprising that many would still want to be in the police force, armed forces or even public services given the extraordinary violent nature of the drug war.
ReplyDeleteGiven that some may be in it for graft, still there must be a substantial number who takes pride in what they do.
And many of them do get killed in the line of service.
These are the unsung heroes and heroines of the drug war.
Bola de putos, hijos de su chingada madre. Matando a gente inocente, pendejos, malparidos, anafalbetos.
ReplyDeleteEstaria bien que se mataran entre elllos estos nuevos jotos y los tampones dejen a los inocentes vivir en paz
ReplyDeleteMexico, the AFRICA of the America's. What a bloody joke that they call themselves a country. You have your local warlords, your daily massacres. The only thing that's missing is the massive starvation and the civil wars. I guess they will come in due time.
ReplyDeleteAmerica what a JOKE.. drug addicts left and right.. school shootings were innocents little kids get killed..the country where if you don't hug you're kid enough he turns into a school shooter.. but let's make excuses for them.. I guess the only thing missing is for people to home school there kids..
DeleteAfrica is not a country.You should also educate yourself -really. You know how many die of starvation each year in the U.S. or the country from which you hail?
DeleteMiren lo que se de los policias es que muchos andan con el cartel de Jalisco. Tengo un primo que vive en la barca y me dice que el se entero una vez que unos cdel area arestaron a una persona de michoacan(templario) y se lo entregaron a cartel de Jalisco. Por eso creo que es la razon de que los templarios andan atacando a los policias.
ReplyDeleteVery good post Chivis always nothing but great info. With Pena Nieto government trying to 'censor' the violent news, borderlandbeat will be our source of info of what is happening. I have heard from family memgers in Mex. of increased extortion/kidnapping in the corridor from Zamora to Los Reyes. When will a family be able to travel to Mexico and enjoy its beuty?
ReplyDeleteWhere is our CT member who was posting about how they never extort"clean hands"How the CT take care of people and have a moral code and a set of rules that they must obey?Do we know any more about why they killed Maria Santos ?
ReplyDeleteThey didnt her!! She was in the way of a politician and he order the hit to get rid of her..he paid some.assains to murder her.. Ct clean their hands with information banners all through michoacan and other regions and expose this corrupt politician.. Ct also claim to murder all these paid assains as to show respect maria santos memorie and family.. Att. Knowledge
Deletemexico is the worst place to live this days their people has no respect for human life and yet they feel so proud to be from mexico they have no dignity
ReplyDeletePpl like u make all the white Americans look bad. Have u lived in Mexico u piece if shit ? Have u experienced all this in person? All u idiots that comment here how Mexico is shit Mexico shouldn't be a country blah blah get ur head out ur ass dumass come to Mexico and see for yourself. Mexico will never ever be nothing close to what Iraq is Somalia etc and u say Mexico WORSTplaceto live? Till u lived in ever country in this world then come say this bullshit
DeleteIt took all 10 of them to kill an unarmed woman? Wow.
ReplyDeleteThe three at the left with their hands in their pockets look listless and worthless even in a police lineup. They can't even do that right !!
Mencno CJNG is not aligned with CDS,remember the threats against Mencho from CDS,although CJNG seem to have split into factions ?
ReplyDeleteThanks Chivis another great article!! I'm currently in my master's program for: Criminal Justice. On my research project thesis! alot of the inforamtion was obtained "And given Credit to your Website"! Many of the gringo professors just base the information they obtained from CNN, NBC, or CBS. Gracias!!!!!!!!!!!!
ReplyDeleteFebruary 3, 2013 at 10:17 AM You are an idiot, talking shit like if the U.S has always been crime free. Everyone over 30 years old will remember that during the 70s and 80s there was up to 25000 murders a year including decapitations and dismemberment, not to mention corruption and extortion.
ReplyDeleteFeb 3rd 2:32PM, LOL at calling America a joke. We do not have over 25k people on a disappeared list. I find it odd that people in Mexico seem to neglect that a lot of their people use drugs as well. There is no doubt that America is the biggest consumer of drugs, but blaming that fact alone on what is happening in Mexico is a cop out, and a joke. If your point is people in America choose to use drugs it is too simple to say that people in Mexico CHOOSE to supply it.
ReplyDeleteThere are huge problems in both countries, but America blaming Mexico, or Mexico blaming America is just wrong. People are making terrible choices on both sides of the border. It is sad the the governments in both countries (and all political parties are to blame) look to try and blame the other when the truth of the matter is both are equal in their blame, and at the end of the day the person has to make the choice.
Once again these ignorant comments about how all Mexicans are murderers and savages its like saying all Anglos like shooting up kids( sandy hook) or congress women ( Arizona) or shooting fire fighters ( new jersey) or blowing up federal buildings ( Oklahoma). or killing school bus drivers to kidnap preschoolers ( Alabama) or starting up cults ant commit mass sucides if you think that way than I think you are the savage you are nothing but a narrow minded racist and your opinions become irrelevant you obviously are the one with the problem I feel sorry for you I pitty your thoughts and I feel sorry for the folks that have the misfortune of knowing you I'm a proud Mexican American the red white and blue runs through my veins and I certainly don't feel any pride for these savages action it has nothing to do with pride or a race's identity these are all monsters Anglo or Mexican or whatever race they are they all going to have to answer for their sins in the end
ReplyDeleteThank u so much chivis does good job but ppl like jackasses like that make me not like this websites. Say what u think about a whole country when you lived there your whole life.
DeleteThank you so much for the nice support.
ReplyDeleteThe translation was difficult for me so it is nice someone noticed. I am not a translation machine like Vato and Buggs...:)
@2:58 I get quite a few emails from students at all levels and countries. I try to make time to help. As for your professors choice of sources, can you feel me cringe? However something is better than nothing. If you want to score points with them suggest Small Wars Journal, some magnificent writers there, more emphasis on conclusion, analytical reporting and investigative rather than our news reporting. As for mainstream reporting in the states, NYTs has produced outstanding articles.
and of course Borderland Beat
Organized criminals comprise of only 1-1.5% of the entire population of Mexico. Most people of Mexico are good, hardworking people.
ReplyDeleteI refer to them as the "malevolent 1%".
placed in that perspective it is even more astounding.
Mexico is fundamentaly racist and everyone seems to gloss over this fact,especially towards"gringos"hatefull and argumentative ?
ReplyDeleteThanks chivi for putting this awesome post!! My respects all the way from chicago!!
ReplyDeletewho cares,CT and CJNG are the same....scum.
ReplyDeletehope the zetas get in and killem all.
Please keep us posted on this area as it seems as thought it only gets worse as the days go by
ReplyDeletethank u chivis,keep up the good work n god bless..
Is it true Mecican system will release the young offenders once they reach 18 even though they are hardened criminals and murders?
ReplyDeleteI have relatives in PERIBAN and LOS REYES. The most beautiful place in mexico. How bad is it there and how bad will it get
ReplyDelete>chivis
ReplyDelete>Organized criminals comprise of only 1-1.5% of the entire population of
>Mexico. Most people of Mexico are good, hardworking people.
>I refer to them as the "malevolent 1%".
That might be the case for the armed wings, smugglers, hawks and corrupt police/military but the problem is far bigger through money laundering, the whole economy related to the drug industrial sector and the family clans involved.
If over 100k people die in just 8 years this isn't crime but civil war. It should be a warning sign to everybody, especially the US elites, where this uncontrolled capitalistic survival of the fittest ideology leads to.
ReplyDeleteARELLANO FELIX CONTROL PART OF JALISCO W EL GORDO VILLAREAL PPL.. C.A.F IS 10.4 TO 10.2 ACTIVO.
ReplyDeleteATT. BETO
"I refer to them as the "malevolent 1%".
ReplyDeleteVery good point Chivis. The problem is how to remove the bad 1% and let the good people get on with their lives.
February 3, 2013 at 9:57 PM
ReplyDelete"Ppl like u make all the white Americans look bad"
Without a shadow of a doubt,the most racist people on here without exception are Mexicans.You don't need anyone to look bad,your words say it all,racist terms are always on here against"whitepeople"where are the racist terms against Mexicans?
February 3, 2013 at 10:01 PM
ReplyDeleteYou would feel more at home on BDN,i can read Espanol,and the racism against the US and the threats are disgusting,and you are here acting all hurt?You yourself are probably one of the ones who curse and shout the racist names against the US.
February 3, 2013 at 9:57 PM
ReplyDeleteAll u idiots that comment here how Mexico is shit Mexico shouldn't be a country blah blah,i live here and you are right,i go and try and get my sprouts and they take a 2 sprout for every 4 leave me with 3 take away 2 and you get?Then i go and get my onions and i know my onions,and i am extorted for my onions?They stole my undies one time just cause they were flowery and pink,how can you not know these things,here i am telling you what it is really likein Zaca
@1:38pm So those banners were real?...everyone sayin at that time they were fake-ass.
ReplyDelete(remember everyone sayin they spelt sinaloan's wrong).
February 3, 2013 at 10:01 PM
ReplyDelete"Say what u think about a whole country when you lived there your whole life"
Your in Chicago you bitch?What are you gibbering about?Have you heard there is such a thing as a bus,and you pay and it takes you to places?Why don't you try it,know what i mean?
Feb 3rd @ 9:57 who are you talking to?
ReplyDelete@2:45...
ReplyDeleteThat is the BIG Question. There is a growing vigilante movement but mostly by indigenous groups who because of their sad history know that the government will not be giving them the help they need. With the greater society they are stuck, paralyzed by fear but until they accept that in any challenge there will be loses, I wonder how many would be willing to die so that their country will be free, better, and safe? I don't feel that mindset, I think they are waiting for Superman. Also in the choices they make to lead their country, often selling their vote thinking, "what can I do?" I am one person? The one for all and one for all attitude has to be present. and it is not.
one other point though is that we are speaking about roughly only 1/3 the country that narcos are active in, in a nation 1/3 the population of the US.
To the reader writing about my cringe
at the source choices of professors in the US, while learning about the Mexican Drug war, I would have posted your comment but your presentation is offensive, if you don't like what I say then stay away from my posts.
For the record, if one is learning about the Mexican drug war by watching CNN that is pathetic. No way around it. There are informative websites, BB, Small Wars, Global post, and Insight Crime to name a few.
How can one teach without accessing current, in-depth, and valid reality? but with your attitude I feel it serves you and me better, if you would move on, you obviously can't comprehend English if you thought I was calling anyone names.
Racism is so bloody boring....seriously,u clowns who think ur so smart at using racism,i dont even bother reading after the first line.
ReplyDeleteRacism.....so 80's.
Im here for the mexican narco-war and how mexico and the world gonna solve it...fk everything else.
Chivis, great post like always of course. El mencho is very mysterious. Would you be able to write a story about him. I cant find any pictures of him. Is he a heavyweight in the game? Thank you and keep up the good work. Amazing
ReplyDelete10:47 PM
ReplyDelete"Racism is so bloody boring....seriously,u clowns who think ur so smart at using racism,i dont even bother reading after the first line"
No shit Sherlock,,,tell that to the butt of the racism all the time.We aren't all like you,some of us get fed up with it,and say something.
I don't particularly want to see it all the fuckin time on here
@6:09 PM
ReplyDelete"So those banners were real?"
It looks that way,especially since everything they said was true.Mencho has been a name a long time and well known,he was under Nacho,and now they have split into factions.Remember El Molca Resistance leader?In his interview he was saying there was a war between CJNG who he said was Menchos people against Sinaloa,cause Mencho started taking everything and picking people up and killing them in Jalisco,Sinaloa people included?
I wish the USA would send navy seal team 6 and kill all these Mexican scum alreafy
ReplyDeleteok, well I hate to say it, but I told my friends about this crap years ago, but they refused to believe it! The arrogant attitudes of wealthy Americans, and Canadians, who think they can "blend" in with the locals, all the while driving their fancy cars, and living in mansions, what the hell did you think was going to happen..
ReplyDeleteI lived in Jalisco, many years ago, in a small mountain village. Even back then, I could not walk alone on the streets because it wasn't safe. The only reason I wasn't harassed was because my husbands brother was vice president of the town. I've driven, hitch hiked all the way from Monterrey to Chetumal. Been robbed by gunpoint, so I've also been a victim.
You all can try to make this sound like no big deal, like it won't happen to you, etc etc. But guess again, you are not immune, and if you flaunt your wealth, you will be a victim sooner or later.
your little fantasy of living like a millionaire in a 3rd world country on the backs of the locals is over. So better build your walls, hire your personal guards, and get your car fitted with bullet proof glass. Oh yes, sounds like a wonderful way to live after retirement!
Idiots!!