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Thursday, February 28, 2013

Bloody Zacatecas: 11 die

By Chris Covert
Rantburg.com

A total of 11 individuals have been killed in ongoing grug and gang related violence in Zacatecas state since Tuesday, according to Mexican news accounts.

A news report posted on the website of El Sol de Zacatecas news daily said that six individuals were found shot to death between the municipalities of Vetagrande and Morelos Thurday morning.

Locals reported the find to authorities after shots were heard around 0200 hrs.  The dead included four woman one man and one youth.  A number of the six had also been tortured.

According to a news item posted on yancuic.com, the youth was identified as Jorge Armando Moreno, 13.  According to the news report one of the females killed was Armando Moreno's mother, but that has not been confirmed and the identity of the others have not been disclosed.

Armando Moreno was detained and had allegedly confessed to three murders last February 4th, of ten which were alleged.  He was released only hours later.  Mexican law dictates youths under the age of 14 must be released.

Armando Moreno was detained by Policia Federal operatives February 3rd along with 14 others including eight from Guatemala.

Elsewhere one Zacatecas  one unidentified state ministerial police agent and one civilian were shot to death in an attack Tuesday night in Zacatecas municipality, the state capital of Zacatecas.

The victim was travelling with another police agent aboard an SUV around 2000 hrs on Bulevar Adolfo Lopez Mateos near the El Chaparral dance hall, when armed suspects intercepted the vehicle and opened fire.  Another unidentified civilian was shot to death in the crossfire.

The other police agent and another civilian were also wounded in the attack.

Two others were killed in drug and gang violence in Zacatecas.
  • Monday evening, one municipal police agent was kidnapped and killed at a stakeout operation in Fresnillo muncipality.  The agent identified as Rodrigo Monsivais Sandoval, 27, was one of four police agents involved in the police operation in Zona CECYTEZ when armed suspects opened fire.  Rodrigo Monsivais Sandoval was kidnapped but almost immediately shot to death and left aboard  Toyota Tundra pickup truck.  Four other municipal police agents attempted to intervene.  Despite AK-47 rifle fire, none of the agents were wounded and apparently the armed group escaped aboard another vehicle.
  • Wednesday morning a taxi cab driver and a female fare were shot to death in Zacatecas municipality.  The incident took place on Avenida Garcia Salinas.
Chris Covert writes Mexican Drug War and national political news for Rantburg.com

56 comments:

  1. So do we knw Who diz grupos where

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  2. let me tell ya something i worked for 6 years as a drug trafficker un traficante no un cholo ni un sicario ni nada de eso... im gald i left that life this guys have no respect no heart when i got into that it was 2 leave poverty and we would always help out who ever needed money cause the govt. would always leave people behind but now its so diffrent. when respect is lost everything alse is lost. ponganse trucha raza no le agan mal ala gente por que por la gente an de morir usen la cabeza no anden de cocos agan negocios como dios manda y todo saldra bien. no roben ni secuestren ni extorsionen eso no es de nosotros ayuden ala gente chingense alos gueros que son los que nos chingan a nosotros.. dejensen de pendejadas si sigen asi todos van a perder.esto va de un compa que paso 5 anios en la federal.

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    1. Couldnt said it better usted es senor no como las rataz q duena la droga.

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    2. My boyfriend was taken from his house in Monte Escobedo, Monday, his body was found in jerez Zacatecas, what happened?

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  3. did i understand this correctly ? if someone is under 14 in mexico and commits murder, he has to be released if he gets arrested ??

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    1. Thats the stupidest law i know.for a murder? Glad they do not do that here in u.s they used to but people got tired of juvenile crime.now those little bastards who do that go up the creek as adults most of the time as they should.petty crime is one thing but murder is quite another.

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  4. Good to kill that little shit and his Mother so she can no longer make little monsters!

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  5. It's hot red hot!!!! God knows when he will have had enough and put a stop to it.

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  6. Fucking mexican laws. Dont let the 14 year old kid get free. Lock his ass up. O well hes dead anyways. That fucking asshole

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  7. I only hope the mom and son got to bleed out together.

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  8. i have a question about this part of the article:

    "Armando Moreno was detained and had allegedly confessed to three murders last February 4th, of ten which were alleged. He was released only hours later. Mexican law dictates youths under the age of 14 must be released."

    Is this really true ? Does this mean you can just go around killing people in mexico if youre under 14 ??

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  9. What a waste 13 year old and already murdering.... Sad to say but he and his mother probably deserved what was coming for them both.

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  10. Is this Z who were killed?The young one got what was comin to him,he had already killed 3 people and may have been involved in up to 10?Fuck him,someone came looking for him and his mama.They know what their involved in,everyone on here know what the consequences are if the other side come looking for you.If it was the other side?I wonder if some of the ones he killed were kidnap victims?
    Cleaning still goin on in Zacatecas any one?

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    1. carteles unidos they are all over zacatecas killing rataz zetas

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    2. Simón mi compa Carteles Unidos is smashing on the rataz from Florencia to Jerez Commanded by F-1 the rataz stand no chance

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    3. Y que pasa en villa hidalgo zac aqui los necesitamos el tony.y los zetas ya nos tienen asta la madre

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  11. that's not that many. Chicago had 33

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    1. Lol Chicago is like Disneyland compared to parts of Mex. Parts of Los Angeles are worse than Chi but no one cares how many gangsters die in LA anymore. Jordan Downs in LA is worse than any hood in America hands down and it doesnt compare to cities in Mex. Mexican Cartels are on another level. Thousands are kidnapped, tortured and butchered for the public to see every month. Dont ever compare Chicago to this carnage, its no comparison whatsoever.

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  12. I thought that kid for away with murder... I guess not.

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  13. Z are bieng forced out of zaca and tamps by golfo and jgl. Lazca death was a fatal blow its looks.

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  14. Lazca was the brains behind the strategy for the Zetas. Z40 is just a shit for brains sadist. He murdered and tortured his way to the top. Without Lazca's strategy, the Z will slowly but surely deteriorate.

    Anyone who reads this site knows that they dont release kids under 14 who murder in Mexico. They go into the juvenile system. Besides, it says nothing about the kid killing anyone. Says he 'allegedly' killed people. Allegedly means nothing.

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  15. They killed the compadre of z40 el comandante de la policia municipal of fresnilli in fresnillo three days ago la gente de el taliban anda con todo junto con los metros de cdg el encargado para cdg es la hamburguesa Andan limpiando todi fresnillo hasta familiares tambien tengan cuidado toda esa gente de fresnillo pirke en estos dias va ver guerra el 40 ya llego estacas de centro america pa apoyar a los zetas

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  16. Chicago ???? Don't compare Mexico to Chicago they will line all your men up here in Mexico and gun them down then throw them on there moms door steps they don't play in Mexico there not totting pistols there totting light machine guns armored cars RPGs and rifles.

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    1. I dont think u realize how many people in the u.s have the same damn weapons.we r just not crazy enough to register them

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    2. Same weapons, but not the balls to use them the way they do.

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    3. So ur saying people in the us have RPGs and drive around in armored cars with 50. Cal and up to 20 cars in caravans around Chicago

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    4. So according to you people in the us have RPGs and fully automatic assault riffles ,grenades ,grenade launchers what r u gonna say next that theirs people in the us driving around in armored trucks with their 50. Cal don't compare

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    5. Having them is one thing but riding in caravans through the cities carrying them in the open and using them is anothr-

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    6. Ud be suprised what some of these survivalist groups and segments of society in the u.s have.i know these things for a fact.besides it doesnt take balls to kill kids and innocent people.thats a man with a small dick and a serious complex.and yes some of us do have the guts to use them if necessary.i served in the u.s army and they train you to kill when necessary and dont think about it. Where do u think most of the narco weapons and armored vehicles are coming from.im not saying its ok to kill but u do what u have to do when your life is threatenef

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  17. I wonder if I was a state sanction killing if he is this bad now even if the drug war would to seize to exist tomorrow then what are all these serial killer just suppose to stop food for thought anyone want to throw in there two peso I would like to hear it peace LoKs

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  18. Inteligence reports and drone/satelite photos show a build up of armed civilians in this area .SAD operators have confirmed El Taliban Z50 personel are attacking all Of Z40 people and properties .
    Atte: CIA Special Activites Division

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    1. LOL I didn't know the CIA writes like a dumbass! Hey kid why aren't you playing call of duty?

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  19. mexicans make mexico,blame the whole world for our shit,but the blame is all our own,we deserve it,we allow it to be this way

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  20. I cant feel sorry for that kid
    he knew what he was up to.
    theres probably a new kid in his place.

    -ISLAMIC MEXICAN.

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    1. Cannon foodder like Mexican islamistas don't know what'is up until the shit is up to their necks. useful idiots.I don't see moqtada al Sadr volunteering for martyrdoom,to go see mahoma...

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  21. did i understand this correctly ? if someone is under 14 in mexico and commits murder, he has to be released if he gets arrested ??

    Zacatecas Procuraduria General del Estado Arturo Nahle Garcia in the press conference when he announced the six dead bodies that were found made it very clear that he was simply following
    Zacatecas law which apprently says that minors under the age of 14 which fall under arrest must be released to their parents/guardians. There's little mistaking in the article that Nahle Garcia was not happy about having to release the
    minor, and he made it very clear he would like to see the law changed.

    The bigger story here is that the Procuraduria General de la Republica (PGR) under Murillo Karam kicked the case down to Zacatecas state and the PGR delegate probably knew the minor was a confessed triple killer inasmuch as the Policia Federal and by extension
    SEGOB was the arresting agency. This is federal crime policy writ large, that
    PGR will take such cases as minors who commit major crimes and let the states where they are detained deal with them and their crimes.

    I don't really know if those laws are congruent through the states in Mexico; just that that it is the things are in Zacatecas.

    Procuraduria Nahle Garcia seemed to be, by all accounts I have read, an honest broker who not afraid to speak his mind, doesn't hide behind news releases and websites, and is willing to talk openly about his business with the press.

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  22. hey mr. narcotraficante, did you do this in the states? or mexico lindo. so did you do that 6 years ago or did you traffic 16 years ogo for 6 years prior. so for an inside man, what did people really have to do then to get offed?? intersting

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    1. show the money,then the government is after you, and everybody else will want some of that.at the start it was a personal thing,then a matter of brotherhood to share the joint,when the businessmen discovered the addiction side,they offer to share because your ass is their share of the market,not because "they" love you

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  23. the only reason mexico is the way it is is because the local state and federal govts allowed it to get this way, if we had no rule of law in the states, it would probably be the same...

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  24. guerreros unidos are killing ratas zetas all over zacatecas in villanueba they almos clean the garbage wich is good

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  25. guerreros unidos killing ratas zetas thats fucking great

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  26. 12:52 pm, why are you here ?? does your thumb hurt from playing xbox ?

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  27. EN COCA VICTOR PUROZ ZETAZ 100%

    Pinche Guerros unidos!!!!!

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  28. Bottom line is there is law and police(and some people)who WILL kill any scrub asses who wanna run round with AKs/ARs and anything else.Who gives a fuck who got bigger weapons,mine is bigger than yours,,for real.Funny shit now they arguing about who's killers got the best weapons,and who will,and will not use them,fuckin idiotic.

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  29. Am I'm fresnilo zac and half the shit u put up is fucken lies first of all los zetas still control most the state cdg and CDs have been putting in work taking plazas but its going take a few years before they get the zs out Cuz they have the army paid off and fuck no there is no fucken cartel unidos doing nada here get the fuck putts here with that be only one doing sum good for the ppl is z50 ppl the new zs all they do is kill zetas

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    1. yo tambien soy de zacatecas y te voy a callar el osico en primera desde pinos asta zacatecas es territorio cdg y no la hagas de pedo antes era ztas pero desde que los talibanes se unieron al cdg estan matando un chingo de 40s por que a hora a si les dicen los ztas del 40 y 42 o trevinos pero no digas pendejadas por que las chingas que les pone los cdg son a cada rato y te lo digo por que yo vivo aki en zacatecas y soy camionero y cada rato me topo comboys de asta 15 y 30 camionetas con letras de cdg ct y c.u y estos del sagre ztas estan apoyados por cdg a si nomas.

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    2. Tas pendejo si los zetas estan aqui en villa hidalgo loreto y asta pinos

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    3. no seas pendejo guey a los zetas ya los sacaron a la verge en pinos loreto ojocaliente pinche puto manguera panochon en estos runbos se la navegan jente pesada de los golfos guey aki se an visto trokas de asta 15 y mas de los golfos a los ztas les voltiaron bandera el govierno baboso aki asta los munisipales andan bien culos por que ya los train cortitos los golfos pinches polipuercos hahaha mejor paisano habra los ojos y mire bien a su alrrededor y entonces comente no vaya ser que le pase algo por habrir de mas la boca acuerdece los golfos andan de sorditos a ver quien habre de mas el osiko.

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  30. @9:18am dude are like the original zetas a pack off assholes over in zac or were they quiet? and did they keep away from innocents?

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  31. March 2, 2013 at 9:18 AM
    March 2, 2013 at 5:18 PM
    Brr,if you dont post up on here no one is gonna know shit for real on here.You are where you are,so tell it like it is?Everyone thinking Zaca nearly fuckin took over,talibans crew know where every one of them is and wont be hard to find an top them?But,some snide shit,once same crew,now they other side and huntin Z ass.Tell it like it like it is brr,put shit straight?

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  32. The fuck you talking about 5:18 los zetas still here I been here in fersnilo for a year got deported and am telling u the z still here and there is 2 diff zs here the ones that are z50 ppl and z 40s ppl the cdg is here but all they do is kidnapping lil kids and kill ppl that have nothen 2 do with the cartel am not saying am a fan of one or the other Cuz if u ask me they can both go to hell for fucken up a once beautiful city all when o was in call in tx u have all these gangs saying brown pride and that there proud 2 be Mexican and all this shit will if half of you pussy really had love for your race you would defend them against all the evil that's plaged all of mexico if Pancho villa was here he would be ashamed of us for letting this happen mexico I am march 2 2013 @ 9:18

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  33. March 3, 2013 at 9:31 AM
    "The fuck you talking about 5:18 los zetas still here I been here in fersnilo for a year got deported and am telling u the z still here and there"
    Brother i hate to hear that deported shit,i really do.Dont believe all the shit about"gringos"im one and if it was up to me,you be where you wanted to be.You just sayin it makes me feel snide,anyway man just sayin.Im glad you still postin and havent dipped on us,write shit about Zaca that you think,,,stay down dude

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    1. que esten en fresnillo puto no significa que esten fuertes como antes guey y sí hablo lo que digo es por que vivo aqui en zacatecas por 30 anos y te lo repito en espanol los golfos andan con los del 50 ellos son los que permitieron la entrada y arrevatar plazas inportantes como jerez zacatecas y van por fresnillo los ztas estan perdiendo mucho terreno aki en zacatecas bro desde pinos asta zacatecas es golfo por que cres que andan diciendo quelos de la oficina de ags se quieren meter a alludar a los ztas por que ya no saven por donde les llega la voladora por florencia asta villa nueva es territorio carteles unidos de pinos asta zacatecas cdg los van enpujando para las orillas asia durango.....

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  34. @9:31am Cheers for the truth dude.....getn punks on here making up story's.....what for????....obviously there a nutthhugger and there chosen team aint done shit there....but kidnap innocent kids as you pointed out.
    What of Blood Z....are they having any affect against the Orginal Z??

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  35. March 4, 2013 at 10:04 AM
    Dude,i can understand eventually what you write,cant speak it to good but read it better.Thanks for postin man and clearing shit up,we can all be cool we all tryin to find shit out thats all,no stressin,yeah man,its seems well known that shits goin on in Zaca,cleanin Zs and in certain parts have taken ground off the Z,dude dont get dragged into the grimy shit with your Mexican bro,we all argue enough dont we guey,white,black,brown,well fuck that we can talk man,be cool

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