tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5195137745759962560.post8968644691187471870..comments2024-03-28T06:54:12.283-06:00Comments on Borderland Beat: Cartels Using Arizona Mountaintops to Spy on CopsUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger25125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5195137745759962560.post-10369639131233374022011-05-25T21:44:11.441-06:002011-05-25T21:44:11.441-06:00Here is a huge part of the problem. US Government ...Here is a huge part of the problem. US Government selling arms to Drug Cartels. Two faced!!! Maybe Governor Predetor should run your country. I hope he improves taste on girlfriends.<br /><br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9oA_xsUgkk&feature=relatedAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5195137745759962560.post-11064414737852706542011-05-25T21:37:22.927-06:002011-05-25T21:37:22.927-06:00Drug consumption in America is the problem. I grew...Drug consumption in America is the problem. I grew up in Arizona in the 80s and half of my class did drugs, so this generation has a huge appetite for drugs. Drugs land at night in the mountains in Mexico from Colombia. Americans love cocaine, so smugglers just fulfill their hunger for feeling high. Mexicans are caught between the manufacturing of drugs in South America and the insatiable appetite of Americans to get high. The U.S. government acts as nothing happens and they sell guns to both the Mexican army and the drug lords. Solution{ Both countries need to have 50,000 soldiers on each side of the border, so that I can open a Hooters on the American side and a Senor Frogs on the Mexican side, so I can service the needs of the service men. Stop blaming Mexico for the drug problem and two faced plans the US Government always has. Mexico should then stop corruption at all levels and we can all live happily ever after. By the way, Mexico was the party place...people are warm and fun. Friken Republicans supporting the NRA National Riffle Association and gun manufacturers are two faced and should stop consuming drugs themselves. Just ask Mr Universe - The Terminator Governor of California *Republican* he must have been high to get frisky with the housekeeper!!!! God Bless and stop the hate!!! Be smart and get the facts before bashing Mexico!!! Just watch the video below to get the real facts.<br /><br />https://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3Dqc2pdSPy2WI&h=4c050Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5195137745759962560.post-33509473000385318282011-05-25T10:58:34.933-06:002011-05-25T10:58:34.933-06:00i agree ending prohibition would take the money ou...i agree ending prohibition would take the money out of it and would drastically lesson the power of the DTO's...and that would be a great thing<br /><br />as for Mexican endemic corruption..thats cultural and predates any prohibition<br /><br />but even though the USA is a drug market ..that dosen't justify the way Mexico has embraced lawlessness and corruption as a lifestyle...<br /><br />Mexico could have denied the DTO's the "right of way" through Mexico a long time ago...but from top to bottom they are ALL complicit because they chose to take the money and participate in supplying all the drugs to America <br /><br />this is GREED , LOVE OF MONEY ,AND TOTAL LACK OF CONCERN FOR THEIR AMERICAN NEIGHBOR..and this is on Mexico,and the Mexican people<br /><br />if you argue that prohibition should be ended because drugs are an evil addiction ..and the consumers are sick ..and should be treated as victims...<br /><br />is drug use /abuse a crime ..or a socially derived disease<br /><br />why end prohibition if it is a crime?...why continue it if it is a disease?<br /><br />if you advocate ending it as i do, then you must consider it a sickness<br /> <br />just how much more does that damn Mexico for being so ready to take advantage of the situation and reap the profit...<br /><br />now who is the real asshole?....the pusher/Mexico...or the consumer/victim/USA<br /><br />think about it<br /><br />i also do say that the "drug war" has been used to make a police state out of the USA...<br /><br />thanks Mexico for the supply that created the conditions that enabled the police to further justify that ...<br /><br />yeah ..thanks a lot for that too Mexico...thanks for the fuckn drugs that poison my country and justify the take over by the police<br /><br />and thanks for blaming it all on us'lito'britonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5195137745759962560.post-35790953633568881672011-05-25T10:16:17.747-06:002011-05-25T10:16:17.747-06:00The situation is now much worse than it ever was i...The situation is now much worse than it ever was in the US with just US Prohibition Against Alcohol in place. Then we had Federal cops and Local cops all running around in circle militarizing US cities onto the very bottomest boondocks. Now, we have a worldwide Made in US/ Made by the US 'war on drugs' in place, and the Pentagon! and its assorted allied national militaries ('local' cops) running around in circles, along with their allied private death squads organized by elite corporate execs, government hacks, and rogue 'generals' also doing the very same thing in every down and out barrio around the planet.<br /><br />Lesson here? Never underestimate the overwhelming stupidity and incompetence of America's elites, who are always ready to take the mistakes of the past and make them even worse in the future.... ... until it all comes crashing down.Ardentnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5195137745759962560.post-43076575010213871002011-05-25T06:35:04.688-06:002011-05-25T06:35:04.688-06:00Yes, it would be a stretch to claim that the end o...Yes, it would be a stretch to claim that the end of Prohibition will end our problems, but nobody makes that claim.<br /><br />While there's no panacea, a much better situation is possible.<br /><br />It's all about big money, and Prohibition is what makes it possible. The situation would be much better without such big money driving the problem.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5195137745759962560.post-2237930194761543892011-05-25T00:08:54.993-06:002011-05-25T00:08:54.993-06:00Any person who gets up here and screams that an en...Any person who gets up here and screams that an end to prohibition is an end to our problems just sounds dumb. There isnt an industrialized nation in the world where all drugs are legal. And it isnt going to start now. Save your breath or at least come up with a new plan. "repeal prohibition" HAH might as well be saying "nuke mexico"....the latter is probably more likelyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5195137745759962560.post-27803392362162480012011-05-24T19:47:46.808-06:002011-05-24T19:47:46.808-06:00Esta claro, 'lito'brito, que la corrupcion...Esta claro, 'lito'brito, que la corrupcion en Mexico y otras partes del mundo precede la Prohibicion. Eso no nega que la politica de Prohibicion multiplica el problema en grande. La Prohibicion disminuye la probabilidad de que la corrupcion sea controlada. Mi pais es el que insiste en mantener esta estupida politica de la Prohibicion, y por lo tanto mi pais es culpable en gran proporcion de que la situacion de la corrupcion se incrementa, no se disminuye. La corrupcion ama la politica de Prohibicion por esa razon.<br /><br />Sure, corruption predates Prohibition, but Prohibition multiplies the problem and greatly diminishes the possibility of progress being made against corruption. The corrupt love Prohibition for that reason. Takes the heat off.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5195137745759962560.post-56763131843336931782011-05-24T04:06:41.764-06:002011-05-24T04:06:41.764-06:00so when a crooked cop robs me it is because of US ...so when a crooked cop robs me it is because of US pot prohibition?...when a pendejo busts my window and robs my car..the same?...when a taco vendor is hit with a mordida..the same ?...you have a very simplistic view of the problems in Mexico,,,senor libro <br /><br />jajjja....mebbe you should read more than one book amigo..<br /><br />read the history of Mexico ...entiendes the long history of lawlessness in Mexico...much of which predates any prohibition...<br /><br />FYI..i am all for ending mota prohibition...and decriminalizing otra drugs,,,treat it as a treatable sickness ..not a crime'lito'britonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5195137745759962560.post-77241584873375246262011-05-23T21:46:52.701-06:002011-05-23T21:46:52.701-06:00By fueling it with a fabulous price support progra...By fueling it with a fabulous price support program called Prohibition decade after decade. <br /><br />Prohibition empowers ruthless greed, encourages corruption, accelerates brutality and does virtually nothing to stem the consumption of drugs.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5195137745759962560.post-80708979440732511342011-05-23T21:43:57.784-06:002011-05-23T21:43:57.784-06:00@May 23, 2011 8:39 PM
How?? Did you fail history...@May 23, 2011 8:39 PM <br /><br />How?? Did you fail history? Because its obvious!! Pick up a book and read the subject of Prohibition, maybe just maybe you will learn something. And to answer your question MONEY is what is fueling the drug war..I don't see pesos being confiscated every time someone gets busted with money. Its dollars from America...our drug addicts....oh, wait a minute, maybe I missed some news reporting Budweiser gunmen shooting Heineken representatives and skinning them alive. Yes, that's it... don't legalize drugs, because look at the horrible booze cartels that kept growing after alcohol was re-legalized in the U.S...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5195137745759962560.post-28355714041105399002011-05-23T20:39:13.780-06:002011-05-23T20:39:13.780-06:00how do you manage to blame the USA for all the non...how do you manage to blame the USA for all the non drug related bullshit/corruption?...come on how does the USA cause the greed and extortion,kidnapping,robbery....corruption from top to bottom in every facet ...how?...come on explain it to us'lito'britonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5195137745759962560.post-90129829790701037942011-05-23T06:45:43.780-06:002011-05-23T06:45:43.780-06:00> I for one have no blame in what is happening
...> I for one have no blame in what is happening<br />> in Mexico nor does the United States of America<br />> have any blame in the violence in Mexico.<br /><br />Of course you share the blame. Being oblivious of the root cause role played by our disastrously failed drugs policy, Prohibition, makes you part of the problem.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5195137745759962560.post-35030337364129804382011-05-22T12:58:10.742-06:002011-05-22T12:58:10.742-06:00If all you can say is "So?" blame prohib...If all you can say is "So?" blame prohibition and wanting to end it then you really do not have anything of value to bring to the table as far as I am concerned.<br /><br />I for one have no blame in what is happening in Mexico nor does the United States of America have any blame in the violence in Mexico. The blame lies squarely with those who are perpetrating the violence due to their greed. Wake up!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5195137745759962560.post-23652161285209041092011-05-22T09:14:17.497-06:002011-05-22T09:14:17.497-06:00> What American Cartel ... I’ll tell you, NONE!...> What American Cartel ... I’ll tell you, NONE!!!<br /><br />So? <br /><br />What's the cause of all that incredible carnage? What causes these cartels to form, to compete with each other, to get so brutal? Whose fault is that?<br /><br />The root cause is MONEY. The money is created by PROHIBITION. Prohibition is the root of the problem. It's OUR fault!<br /><br />End Prohibition. Leave people the hell alone. Put the cops and jailers and border guards to work doing something useful for a change.<br /><br />Repetition of disastrous approaches is just stupid. Or corrupt. Probably both.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5195137745759962560.post-87419492324470182612011-05-21T19:17:23.289-06:002011-05-21T19:17:23.289-06:00"ROFL, look ma, why arent the great armed for..."ROFL, look ma, why arent the great armed forces of the U.S.A. going after the American Cartels?<br />Well dear, its because theyre broke.<br />and the local authorities are scared, so we fight them over there, so we dont have to fight them over here."<br /><br /><br />What American Cartel is slicing people’s throats while alive as they cut off their heads; What American cartel is slicing the skin from the faces of people while alive; What American cartel is quartering people out with axes while alive; what American cartel is throwing grenades into nightclub killing innocent people; what American cartel is rounding up immigrants from other countries and butchering them when they won’t join them or cannot pay a ransom. I’ll tell you, NONE!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5195137745759962560.post-18614282491917360412011-05-21T16:10:08.126-06:002011-05-21T16:10:08.126-06:00When large amounts of people want something, i.e. ...When large amounts of people want something, i.e. marijuana, which has been made illegal, they simply go around the very few government enforcers. I cite prohibition as an evident example. The enforcers are trying to catch all the rain drops with their hands and buckets so that none hit the prohibited ground...The rain storm does not even notice their existence. One has to marvel at the official Don Quixotes trying to joust so many windmills.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5195137745759962560.post-84729138293599561132011-05-21T14:35:16.130-06:002011-05-21T14:35:16.130-06:00Plomo=lead, or bullet.
Plata=silver money.Plomo=lead, or bullet.<br />Plata=silver money.Lou Brownnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5195137745759962560.post-44890544874556924832011-05-21T14:03:35.882-06:002011-05-21T14:03:35.882-06:00Texcoco Mex said.
U.S. ahuilnemini.Texcoco Mex said.<br /><br />U.S. ahuilnemini.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5195137745759962560.post-22974472308667755092011-05-21T12:31:23.890-06:002011-05-21T12:31:23.890-06:00"always placing the blame. The US knows it ha..."always placing the blame. The US knows it has a drug usage problem. When is Mexico going to admit it has an evil thirst for sadistic and soulless killings of men women and children."<br /><br />Wether he is right or wrong, whose to say, but i believe Calderon has admitted the problems of Mexico which is why the cartels are fighting back stronger and more violent then ever. What good does it do, admitting who is at fault and who is to blame. <br /><br />And everyone knows the United States has a "drug usage problem" which is financing and supporting every cartel/gang in Mexico and the U.S. Let us not be naive. Or maybe the cartels just drop their goods across the border, and the idians or pochos or border patrol distribute it to the rest of the continental United States for them, without overseeing where their product is going and the money generated by the sales. No, im pretty sure they control all aspects of distribution down to the local dealers in some cases. Its sad but fact. <br /><br />"For most of the 75-mile-long border crossing the Tohono O'odham Nation, this fence is all that separate Mexico from the U.S." This cracks me up! The thing is that the fence in the picture would work just as well as the $5,000,000 per mile, fence we are building in texas that has openings for vehicles to drive through every half mile or so. These openings dont have gates or anything and they dont have bp patroling them but every so often. So there may be this big new border fence but the people who want to get into the US will always have a way, they are a determined people, the cartels, the migrants, whoever. I hate seeing the new fence and what it stands for and yet, the fact is, it has hardly any real purpose. Obama needs to talk about immigration reform like he said he was going to during his campaign.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5195137745759962560.post-13537629440123744572011-05-21T10:07:40.175-06:002011-05-21T10:07:40.175-06:00One of the greatest tools the cartels have is the ...One of the greatest tools the cartels have is the use of their plata o plomo? (silver or lead?) doctrine. Combine greed with intimidation, fear, coersion, etc. and you have a very powerful mix of trouble. This story reports that numerous tribal members were aiding the cartels/narcogangs/whatever. Once they co-opt you they can wield great influence (murder, rape, beheadings, familial intimidation;the degradation of human life immediately comes to mind.). All of this is done to expand their criminal enterprise. The narcogangs are profit oriented whose goal is the freedom of movement and expanding commercial territory. And they go to such great lengths to expand their enterprise that they undermine the legitimacy of the government and in some cases (parts of Mexico) the have replaced it. In the absence of legitimate government, any number of illicit activities freely takes place; tafficking of humans, extortion of business, intimidation of law-enforcement, politicians, killing of journalists, whatever it takes to keep the enterprise moving. <br />SLowly but surely a narco-criminal-value system begins to challenge and replace traditional liberal democratic values like human rights, pursuit of happiness, self-determination, rule of law, and all the other values many take for granted.<br /><br />Can you imagine the level of uncertainty and fear that pervades the community/state when the value system is supplanted by something evil? There is an extremely unhealthy socio-political disruption occurring in Mexico right now. <br /><br />This is the real threat to America. It has already been happening in Mexico, Columbia decades before, El Salvador, etc. Now we are experiencing more and more incidents of it in the U.S. Hits on narco-competitors in the U.S., co-opting of Law enforcement and local gov't in the Southwest, the strengthening of transnational gangs all over the place,epic narco kidnappings, etc. These are symptoms of numerous political-social problems that are too big to discuss here, not the least of which is US drug demand. But I am no apologist. Max Manwaring (2011) said "It is not poverty, lack of opportunity,and misery alone that kill, maim and destroy. It is men and women, sometimes boys and girls who are prepared to conduct all kinds of "intimidations" and dysfunctional activities in their personal searches for personal well-being."<br /><br />From a strategic standpoint, how vulnerable are we, or what level of resources, not to mention political will, is needed to counter the narco-criminal-value system from more fully penetrating our traditional American value system?<br /><br />There is a growing body of literature that suggests the "narcogangs" are taking on the characteristics of domestic insurgents. The political goal of these actors is to supplant their criminal value system over democracy.<br /><br />I have mashed quite a few ideas into this ramble without citing anything. Much of the scholarly literature on this subject requires subscription. I have located 2 free reports that covers all of the content I wrote about. If you have made it this far in my post and you are a Mexican or especially an America, I urge you to check out the below resources:<br /><br />http://www.cttso.gov/publications/CNAS_CrimeWars_KillebrewBernal_3%20%282%29.pdf<br /><br /> A better report by scholar Max Manwaring (2011):<br /><br />http://www.strategicstudiesinstitute.army.mil/pubs/display.cfm?pubID=837<br /><br />God Bless the Republic!<br /><br />Northern KingpinAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5195137745759962560.post-83747181142389442502011-05-21T10:02:50.056-06:002011-05-21T10:02:50.056-06:00ROFL, look ma, why arent the great armed forces of...ROFL, look ma, why arent the great armed forces of the U.S.A. going after the American Cartels?<br />Well dear, its because theyre broke.<br />and the local authorities are scared, so we fight them over there, so we dont have to fight them over here.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5195137745759962560.post-67629379028890968422011-05-21T09:41:13.849-06:002011-05-21T09:41:13.849-06:00Once the cartels are reclassified as terrorists an...Once the cartels are reclassified as terrorists and enemies of the United States we can call in airstrikes with several military jets all along the US/Mexico border and blow up their caves/spider holes, hopefully with them inside. Once they are reclassified we would not be violating the Posse Comitatus Act. I don’t think they will be doing that again once a few have been killed.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5195137745759962560.post-79818919213285495582011-05-21T05:11:20.414-06:002011-05-21T05:11:20.414-06:00always placing the blame. The US knows it has a dr...always placing the blame. The US knows it has a drug usage problem. When is Mexico going to admit it has an evil thirst for sadistic and soulless killings of men women and children.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5195137745759962560.post-65185014965564453082011-05-21T04:42:32.500-06:002011-05-21T04:42:32.500-06:00why cant we make arizona like area 51 get to close...why cant we make arizona like area 51 get to close and your dead simple as that.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5195137745759962560.post-90087491208629373792011-05-21T00:04:54.428-06:002011-05-21T00:04:54.428-06:00You can't tell me the Indians aren't in on...You can't tell me the Indians aren't in on it all. They are getting paid off, and since we gave them nation status, we can't do a thing about this. The Indians have become like the mob.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com