tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5195137745759962560.post8278728846918328591..comments2024-03-29T03:07:59.566-06:00Comments on Borderland Beat: Atty. Gen. Eric Holder draws House panel's rebuke over Fast and FuriousUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger21125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5195137745759962560.post-91058010238454250532012-06-27T10:04:34.625-06:002012-06-27T10:04:34.625-06:00Ah good ole ATF back on the spot light every decad...Ah good ole ATF back on the spot light every decade so far.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5195137745759962560.post-1140365066979679352012-06-21T18:43:05.269-06:002012-06-21T18:43:05.269-06:00I'm wondering how many of these people in offi...I'm wondering how many of these people in office are on someone's payroll in the cartel? Makes you wonder, seriously wonder.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5195137745759962560.post-62451687520684344592012-06-21T18:41:20.176-06:002012-06-21T18:41:20.176-06:00I was watching C-Span yesterday. "We need to...I was watching C-Span yesterday. "We need to get to the bottom of this" is all I was hearing. But no one in the congress wants to take on the real issue....the bottom of this is the CARTEL. None of them bothered to take up this issue. It's all about weapons and not the murderers themselves.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5195137745759962560.post-44738980908208910772012-06-21T18:08:28.041-06:002012-06-21T18:08:28.041-06:00Holder and Obama LIED and people died..Send them t...Holder and Obama LIED and people died..Send them to a Prison and lock them up for life!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5195137745759962560.post-39597332399119626952012-06-21T17:18:53.262-06:002012-06-21T17:18:53.262-06:00"Anonymous at 12:30 makes an interesting sugg..."Anonymous at 12:30 makes an interesting suggestion. Did Calderon want this to happen to help the Sinaloa cartel?"<br /> <br />It would be naive to believe this non-sense since most of the weapons ended up going to la linea.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5195137745759962560.post-28953423690784544982012-06-21T13:17:36.341-06:002012-06-21T13:17:36.341-06:00Holder should get sent to prison along with tbe re...Holder should get sent to prison along with tbe rest of the yuppies involved.Its like didnt a gun shop owner in texas or arizona recently get sent to jail for some years for selling guns to people who might have been tied to a cartel,so basically letting the weapons walk knowing there were going to cartels. Yeh that seems what operation fast and furious was also doing.Those in government need to stop trying to be above the law they need to be charged with the crimes they committed just like the gun shop owners get jail time for doing the same thing.If fact i think one of those owners was in a deal with the ATF to allow those weapons to walk,yet he still got sent to the slammer for doing that.Even though the gun shop owner said he was in agreement with the ATF to let those guns walk.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5195137745759962560.post-76848907217437908942012-06-21T11:38:54.495-06:002012-06-21T11:38:54.495-06:00Anonymous at 12:30 makes an interesting suggestion...Anonymous at 12:30 makes an interesting suggestion. Did Calderon want this to happen to help the Sinaloa cartel? Certainly Obama could accomodate then use the statistics to argue for tougher gun control in the U.S. There were early reports that the administration was steering the Mexican government to a U.S. law firm for a lawsuit against gun manufacturers, importers, and sellers. Did they expect the evidence for the suit would be created through Fast and Furious? Why isn't Calderon, since the U.S. did not officially notify the Mexican authorities of the operation, raising holy hell with the international courts about U.S. agents arming drug cartels in Mexico? And since we know of hundreds of murders from these guns in Mexico, why doesn't Calderon give U.S. reporters lists of the people killed?<br />All because the fix is in. Obama and Calderon are ideological soulmates. They consider themselves the elites that can Lord over our lives. So a few hundred people get killed in Mexico. So what, they think. Their deaths will help advance the social controls Obama and Calderon know are best.<br />So they'll go to a "summit" and smile together, speak platitudes, and the sycophants in the press will enjoy their little vacations while forwarding press releases to their editors as news stories. No questions will be asked.<br />Meanwhile, today in Mexico, gunfire erupted again....Trialdognoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5195137745759962560.post-49333470086507724492012-06-21T10:11:31.300-06:002012-06-21T10:11:31.300-06:00I think a lot of people are really focusing on thi...I think a lot of people are really focusing on this issue,because it may prove to be a major embarrassment to the US administration,and Mexico in particular will enjoy that scenario.But,i can't help feeling that there are more important issues at hand,like trying to stop precursor chemicals,drug imports,deaths,etc.<br />We all know EVERY government on this planet gets up to this sort of shit all the time,so this doesn't surprise me in the slightest.<br />Trialdog,says,<br />"First, there was no intent to track the illegal firearms in Fast and Furious"<br />"intent was to simply let the guns go across the border then wait to see at what crime scenes the weapons reappeared"? I know that some of these agency's do idiotic things,but that makes absolutely no sense at all?Who says the perps are going to leave weapons at crime scenes?They paid a lot of money for some of them,they are like prized possessions.The US gives guns away,and then lets see what happens,if anything with them?That could only be lazy work,not even incompetent.I don't get that at all.But nothing surprises me with government shady tricks,and they keep getting away with it through our own apathy.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5195137745759962560.post-89557740232855701752012-06-21T09:16:30.794-06:002012-06-21T09:16:30.794-06:00sisky been biased long?
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Siskiyou_Kid said.....sisky been biased long?<br />"<br />Siskiyou_Kid said...<br /><br /> The political points being made are on more example of absolute hypocrisy about the BATF, which was actually trying to enforce laws that have been rendered impotent by the NRA.<br /><br /> This is after BATF has been exposed as incompetent going back to the Reagan administration."<br /><br />let me know when you come up with an answer to the problem.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5195137745759962560.post-67920922166357011432012-06-21T09:03:58.310-06:002012-06-21T09:03:58.310-06:00The vote for contempt was on party lines and the D...The vote for contempt was on party lines and the Democrats showed America that they have do not care about the laws and Constitution of America. They should be placed in the unemployment lines because they are for this type of totalitarian government, dictatorship tactics and crime. We have taken the names of them and they will be "primaried" in their next re-election bids!Tatersaladhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13466456775948716340noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5195137745759962560.post-11808999347915517742012-06-21T06:34:32.755-06:002012-06-21T06:34:32.755-06:00You need to be careful when simply reprinting a Lo...You need to be careful when simply reprinting a Los Angeles Times article. Especially on this issue. There are substantial factual errors and ommissions that U.S. reporters continue to promote in order to lessen the impact of the scandal on the Obama administration. Here's a couple.<br />First, there was no intent to track the illegal firearms in Fast and Furious. In fact, the intent was to simply let the guns go across the border then wait to see at what crime scenes the weapons reappeared. (Those reporters that state the intent of the program was to track the weapons know better and repeat this falsehood which, by the way, was created by Obama's political operatives.)<br />Second, and as in obvious, it is a major ommission to fail to note the Mexican government was kept in the dark about this. U.S. agents would have needed Mexican help to "track" the weapons to the cartels. That help was not sought. In fact, this was deliberately kept from the Mexican authorities. What Mexican authorities would approve of a scheme to deliver murder weapons to drug cartels in order to increase the violence statistics?<br />Fast and Furious was sinister and evil. The more facts you know, the more angry you will become. Please be careful simply reprinting articles authored by reporters who view their job as to promote and protect the Obama administration.Trialdognoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5195137745759962560.post-2157178833884124152012-06-21T05:38:49.894-06:002012-06-21T05:38:49.894-06:00this will all disappear into the past like it alre...this will all disappear into the past like it already has almost done. Americans grow tired of scandals that last more than a couple months. Maybe if they got off their fat compliant asses and backed this congressman with their presence and faces something would actually get done. But crooks in gov know they just have to play the waiting game and eventually the mindless sheep americans will focus their couch potato anger somewhere else.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5195137745759962560.post-55517653776525627332012-06-21T04:40:38.052-06:002012-06-21T04:40:38.052-06:00U.S. wants their share of the undeclared monies! I...U.S. wants their share of the undeclared monies! It is obvious the arms the cartels receive are not just from border gun shops! Duh!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5195137745759962560.post-18674906292808624162012-06-21T03:25:39.012-06:002012-06-21T03:25:39.012-06:00Politicians, probably the least effective creature...Politicians, probably the least effective creatures in this solar system. I dont know how they do it but they have an amazing ability to use 10,000 words when you only need 30.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5195137745759962560.post-35455729865091697622012-06-21T02:42:30.065-06:002012-06-21T02:42:30.065-06:00This whole situation is really messed up, but this...This whole situation is really messed up, but this has been going on in the ATF long before Holder came into play. This time it just backfired.Operation Wide Receiver was pretty much the same exact thing under the Bush regimeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5195137745759962560.post-78915910035823735582012-06-21T01:03:00.199-06:002012-06-21T01:03:00.199-06:00Congressman Darrell Issa is on the verge of discov...Congressman Darrell Issa is on the verge of discovering something huge. Those papers probably implicate not only the White House but Los Pinos as well. The only reason Obama asserted Executive Privledge was to obstruct the committees investigation. I would not be surprised if Obama and Calderon jointly conspired to allow this operation to specifically arm Sinaloa Cartel assassins. Obama gets his excuse for more draconian US gun laws and Calderon gets a US-taxpayer armed proxy army to fight criminal groups it considers more of a threat like Los Zetas. This whole "We were gonna wait for the kingpins to get caught with the guns" is a bunch of nonsense.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5195137745759962560.post-54843023427064885232012-06-21T00:30:41.858-06:002012-06-21T00:30:41.858-06:00The political points being made are on more exampl...The political points being made are on more example of absolute hypocrisy about the BATF, which was actually trying to enforce laws that have been rendered impotent by the NRA.<br /><br />This is after BATF has been exposed as incompetent going back to the Reagan administration.Siskiyou_Kidnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5195137745759962560.post-22692837289656311832012-06-21T00:26:36.462-06:002012-06-21T00:26:36.462-06:00How can anyone believe the crap that spews from t...How can anyone believe the crap that spews from the mouths of these political pimps. Holder says , this action does not help solve the problem of illegal weapons trafficking and border security. In what way was fast and the furious helping? The atf let a large number of weapons just walk out the door! Countless murders and crimes have been done and continue to happen. Border security, please the border patrol is being imprisoned for chasing illegals thru the desert. After years of investigations and getting head cartel figures extradited the government gives em some plea bargain with minimal time verses all the crimes. Then they make the comment that republicans are wasting tax payer dollars instead of creating jobs. Obama and his wife go on vacations that cost the tax payers millions each time. Obama hasn't created jobs in 4 years. People are dying because of this operation and someone has to be held liable.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5195137745759962560.post-69311720182800658062012-06-20T23:22:38.117-06:002012-06-20T23:22:38.117-06:00Will be interesting to see how Obama manages this....Will be interesting to see how Obama manages this. It seems as though he is caught in a lie.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5195137745759962560.post-42660890110360749652012-06-20T21:23:00.518-06:002012-06-20T21:23:00.518-06:00This shit is deep. Someone is trying to cover up.This shit is deep. Someone is trying to cover up.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5195137745759962560.post-71600755955496005452012-06-20T20:48:29.441-06:002012-06-20T20:48:29.441-06:00Baggage boy's gotta go !!! Time to take the ga...Baggage boy's gotta go !!! Time to take the garbage out . Good riddance.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com