tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5195137745759962560.post4554388572858610226..comments2024-03-28T15:38:58.247-06:00Comments on Borderland Beat: Should Mexico Call for a Cease-Fire with Drug Cartels?Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5195137745759962560.post-50166392137553659892011-04-12T06:05:33.917-06:002011-04-12T06:05:33.917-06:00Mexico will not legalize drug trafficing because t...Mexico will not legalize drug trafficing because there is too much money at stake. Too many people are getting a piece of the pie and Calderon gets his too. There are casualties in every business unfortunately for Mexico theirs are innocent citizens.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5195137745759962560.post-47429637344850721952011-04-08T13:40:22.295-06:002011-04-08T13:40:22.295-06:00"Drug trafficking goes on. The United States ..."Drug trafficking goes on. The United States doesn't care, and is not helping us at all," Sicilia told reporters. "The mafias are here. We should make a pact."<br /><br />Is this typical Mexican thinking? Since when is the United States responsible for pacifying every narco-state and criminal empire in the world? Why don't the Mexicans take up arms and win their country back for themselves?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5195137745759962560.post-72286641275446571532011-04-08T10:58:50.521-06:002011-04-08T10:58:50.521-06:00@Mantanzas, I almost bought $10,000 worth of Halli...@Mantanzas, I almost bought $10,000 worth of Halliburton stock when Bush and Chaney were elected in 2000. It was I think $32 a share. I just wonder how many times it has doubled, or quadrupled and split time and time again from that point. Would of, should of, could of, is the story of our lives huh?<br /><br />I'm down bro. Never been there (Acapulco) but I think I could fit in nicely.<br /><br />Maybe we could put together a small market News Paper directed at the Tourists and sale lots of advertising. Publish it weekly and enjoy life.<br /><br />T_R_CAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5195137745759962560.post-10380962829867121562011-04-08T08:39:56.385-06:002011-04-08T08:39:56.385-06:002012: PRI wins the election. Few like them but mos...2012: PRI wins the election. Few like them but most despise Calderon and his buddies for their incompetence and denial (remember 2008 in the US...) and the fact that he won a contested election (remember 2000 in the US...)<br /><br />2012: Very quietly secret deals will be made with selected cartels, the feds are kicked out states' boundaries, the army goes back to the barracks.<br /><br />2012: Clean up of street crime, extortion, kidnapping thugs by the cartels leasing the plazas (think massive narcofosas)<br /><br />2012: MX is another Colombia, just another drug producing country with peace at home and a respected president<br /><br />2013: half of the US population is in jail, the other half staffs the courts and Halliburton is building prisons. I buy its stock and retire in Mexico in a sunny beach house near a peaceful and fun Acapulco. T_R_C, there will always be a room for you my friend.Matanzasnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5195137745759962560.post-36468155703009457662011-04-07T21:58:04.511-06:002011-04-07T21:58:04.511-06:00actually the money that the united states gives to...actually the money that the united states gives to mexico is actually going to american defense contractors. for example,the US gives mexico money and mexico spends it on helicopters(made by US defense contractors), armored vehicles ( made by Us defense contractors), weapons (made in USA), military and police training (defense contractors), surveilance equiptment (mexico doesnt make that stuff, it can only come from the USA). So yes the USA has given lots of money to mexico and other latin american countries but it just goes right back to the big American corporatins. War is money and as long as the US government can make money than it doesnt care how much collateral damage will happen, all they care about is $$$$$$ signs. People say mexico is full of coruption because cops, and the military let narcos pass loads of drugs through checkpoints,but if they dont let them do that than the narcos will execute them and there whole family (plata or plomo) so they dont have many choices. But the real coruption lies with the big defense contractors and big corporations and US banks who launder money and think of skeems to make more money. If you really think about it there is a lot more sh!t than what the press tells the public.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5195137745759962560.post-40926435010310325282011-04-07T19:38:39.521-06:002011-04-07T19:38:39.521-06:00Anon 4:48 have you even thought about all that stu...Anon 4:48 have you even thought about all that stuff you typed? Really, legalize it? Award routes to cartels? Make distribution centers?<br /><br />You have oviously not thought out the big picture here. What do you think will happen to Mexico's status world wide if they were to turn it into one big Narco State (which is pretty much is atm)? <br /><br />Do you think the rest of the world is just going to stand idly by and let the Mexican goverment become the worlds largest distribution center of substances that are illegal in the rest of the planet? <br /><br />How do you think this will affect trade/diplomatic relations with Mexico? The neighboring countries will likely permanently close the borders and it will more than likely have to deal with huge enbargos on their products by the international community. Most countries will probably cease all trade relations to Mexico and impose sanctions against it. <br /><br />I'm sure giving up rolling over and letting the Narcos have the country seems like the best way, but it isnt. Its just the easy lazy way.<br /><br />What Mexico needs is a revolution from within to weed out its own black heart and replace it with something Mexicans can be proud of. As it stands now Mexico is just the biggest failed state in the world. Somalia 2.0<br /><br />Is it possible? Who knows, the way things stand now it looks like everyone there is content to pass the blame around and do nothing until they too become victims.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5195137745759962560.post-88598866522372233742011-04-07T18:49:19.491-06:002011-04-07T18:49:19.491-06:00Legalize drugs in the US,cut welfare to dopers,for...Legalize drugs in the US,cut welfare to dopers,force the dopers to attend rehabilitation,or no dope,let them kill themselves,instead of F ing up the rest of us. THIS HAS BEEN DONE IN PORTUGAL,they claim success,overal drug use down,crime down,Is this true,they say so.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5195137745759962560.post-8663875121807457862011-04-07T18:42:13.388-06:002011-04-07T18:42:13.388-06:00You cannot legalize drugs in Mexico without legali...You cannot legalize drugs in Mexico without legalization in the US.Kari Ahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01301038700247894004noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5195137745759962560.post-89686866418063264962011-04-07T18:40:25.464-06:002011-04-07T18:40:25.464-06:00It is the right time for the US to consider legali...It is the right time for the US to consider legalizing drugs and put an end to all the criminal activity involved in drug trafficking? Time to research the topic extensively and look at our failed drug war policy.<br /><br />http://www.atlassociety.org/objectivism_prostitution_drugs<br />http://www.objectivistparty.us/6506.html<br />http://www.urban75.com/Drugs/drugten.html<br /><br />Giving the criminals an opportunity to dictate the laws of a country is not the right answer. Decriminalization of drug use and therefore shipment of these drugs into the US and elsewhere has to be decided on reasonable grounds. What are the benefits and drawbacks?Kari Ahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01301038700247894004noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5195137745759962560.post-13832154423927405492011-04-07T17:20:41.687-06:002011-04-07T17:20:41.687-06:00Before the PAN took over, Mexico's states had ...Before the PAN took over, Mexico's states had much more autonomy. Their Federal Government had little to say about what happens in each state. Things were safe, calm and peaceful. Calderon overstepped those boundaries with the Army and Federal Police and now has create great imbalance throughout Mexico and like most politician, refuses to realize he is wrong. Only a fool doesn't negotiate with what is more powerful than himself. This is a worldwide phenomenon.<br /><br />Mexico must award plazas and do much more. They legalized small quantities of drugs a year ago. Now totally legalize drugs in Mexico and set everything into motion with awarding plaza's to cartel that will be legal distributers, make other cartels legal supplying corporations of specific drugs be it marijuana. cocaine, heroin, and/or amphetamine. Tax the hell out of it and use the revenue to pay police enough that corruption is not a necessity. Then they can focus on reducing extortion, kidnapping, rape, murder and violent acts.<br /><br />It doesn't stop there though. The US has to change it's mindset of locking up every drug addict for 10 to 30 years via get tough on crime platforms from politicians. We legalized marijuana for medicinal purposes in 17 states. We made a class II narcotic (Methadone) legal for heroin addicted soldiers coming back from Vietnam in the late 60s as an alternative to heroin use. We can figure a way to make substance use controlled, taxed and not through the loss of more blood in Mexico. This will happen some day and most of us know this but currently many cannot see outside the box that we actually win the war by saving dollars.<br /><br />I paid more than $24,000 in taxes this year and I am pissed about it. I'm just a working middle class lug. It cost $35,000 per year to house an inmate. At any given time any of these 4 states can have the largest prison system (Texas, California, Florida, New York). Larger than any other prison system in any "nation" in the world. Just in 4 states our prison system is 4 times bigger than any other nation. I ask, "are Americans that bad", or do we have a twisted vision of what is crime really is?<br /><br />Our politician are so afraid that if we legalize drugs in the US, it might turn our system upside down. As if it isn't already upside down. The need for huge police forces would diminish, probation and parole officer would drop, judges, jailers, prison guards, the same. Wow, you talk about a way to balance a budget, here it is Albert (lol, my favorite blues artist).<br /><br />The US has to do there part because even if we sent special forces to Mexico to clean it up, and they did, the need for illegal drugs in the US has not been resolved so, along will come more cartels. Tourism is gone in Mexico so with the exception of oil production, drugs are number one. The US must make huge strides to change the way it thinks.<br /><br />Screw it! I surrender, legalize the stuff and reduce my taxes please. Politicians wake up, grow some balls, quit kissing babies and your wives' asses and "solve this bullshit!"<br /><br />Just one simple mans opinion.<br /><br />T_R_CAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5195137745759962560.post-78879943654908760972011-04-07T16:48:55.226-06:002011-04-07T16:48:55.226-06:00That would take the cake,Mexico surrenders to the ...That would take the cake,Mexico surrenders to the Drug gangs, what kind of idiots are these people?? Weak gutless people do not need to be in leadership positions or make decisions,stick to poetry. Just what does it take to motivate the Mexican public,or are the majority of the Mexican people alligned with criminal conduct, Hell I am wondering.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5195137745759962560.post-83993345770281792502011-04-07T16:26:00.826-06:002011-04-07T16:26:00.826-06:00They need to send in death squads and kill every n...They need to send in death squads and kill every narco criminal in Mexico...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5195137745759962560.post-42882586039409468162011-04-07T14:41:05.380-06:002011-04-07T14:41:05.380-06:00It's making pacts with these devils and lookin...It's making pacts with these devils and looking the other way that has made Mexico the hell that it is today. They will continue to kill each other and innocents will die as a result. Allowing the cartels to exist and become part of the culture and society is why it is the way it is. Make a pact with them and you are making a deal with the devil. You will be selling your souls and the souls of your children.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5195137745759962560.post-85808710470572246332011-04-07T14:39:51.827-06:002011-04-07T14:39:51.827-06:00Drug trafficking goes on. The United States doesn&...Drug trafficking goes on. The United States doesn't care, and is not helping us at all," Sicilia told reporters. "The mafias are here. We should make a pact."<br /><br /><br />are you kidding me? the U.S. has given so much money to Mexico it is ridiculous. And help? we offer and your too proud president Calderon says Thanks, but no thanks! Too much pride and corruption is what keeps this mayhem in mexico continuing.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com