tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5195137745759962560.post2938335014307311545..comments2024-03-28T22:56:26.113-06:00Comments on Borderland Beat: Narco Corrido News pt 1Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger22125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5195137745759962560.post-68061111478966585532023-01-03T19:26:35.256-07:002023-01-03T19:26:35.256-07:00@8.00pm Great comment. There are so many myths sur...@8.00pm Great comment. There are so many myths surrounding these men it's almost impossible to separate the reality from the romance, though I'm pretty sure Elizalde was killed because he performed at the height of the war with Zetas, and performed a song in praise of Chapo Guzman that he was warned not to sing. Anyway, I got sent a good book a couple years back, called Narcocorrido by Elijah Wald. Pretty much the first attempt to track and record the history in a single volume. Breakmylegshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03278613511403814838noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5195137745759962560.post-26045212745512040982012-09-10T23:27:12.658-06:002012-09-10T23:27:12.658-06:00Fuck all the narcos Fuck all the narcos Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5195137745759962560.post-60877685199198307072012-09-10T23:26:26.196-06:002012-09-10T23:26:26.196-06:00All the singer are cool I liked. El halcon de la ...All the singer are cool I liked. El halcon de la Sierra a lot but who ever killed this singer and chalino Sanchez are little bitches fuck all the narcosAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5195137745759962560.post-53474110965002275392011-03-16T01:34:50.424-06:002011-03-16T01:34:50.424-06:00PLEVADA MEANS GROUP OF PEOPLE UN GRUPO DE GENTE DE...PLEVADA MEANS GROUP OF PEOPLE UN GRUPO DE GENTE DE AMIGOS QUE TE JUNTASAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5195137745759962560.post-45245158535298565342011-03-16T01:33:39.779-06:002011-03-16T01:33:39.779-06:00THEY ALWYAS BE CORRIDO WHY ACT DUMM ALOT OF THIS B...THEY ALWYAS BE CORRIDO WHY ACT DUMM ALOT OF THIS BUL SHIT GOVERMENT GOT TO DO WITH IT BOUTH SIDE. MONEY MONEY MONEYAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5195137745759962560.post-36427023414048112412010-11-27T12:24:20.732-07:002010-11-27T12:24:20.732-07:00Hello, very good comments about the bad music abou...Hello, very good comments about the bad music about the narcocorridos, i have to agree that not all corridos are bad, but for most recent artist i would'nt have to say that they sign only budshit that really have no sence, especialy for our young generation. This recent movimiento "la musica alterada" only glorifieds more and more to the cartels. I believe most artist would stop composing this kind of music, if truly the most influence of all of is the media like the "la que buena", to just to name one of them which promotes most of this new artist and the bad narcocorridos, this kind of media should stop promoting the bad influence to our younger people. if no radio or tv show would promote this kind narcocorridos, younger would'nt get influence, i strongly disagree with this moment of music as well with media..Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5195137745759962560.post-23750751964714766442010-11-26T03:42:56.345-07:002010-11-26T03:42:56.345-07:005:27pm, you said it "whole narco lifestyle ha...5:27pm, you said it "whole narco lifestyle has changed. It went from being down on the low low to be glorified and excepted...And the more bad ass you are and the more drugs you consume and money you make it's what makes you"<br /><br />That's how things work now, that's what the kids are gonna listen to, it symbolizes the way things work now: more drugs, more brutality, more gore.<br />Would I buy a CD or go watch any of those artists? Of course not, but they are still historically valuable.hasta la madrehttp://narco.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5195137745759962560.post-34539651713353149252010-11-26T00:51:58.750-07:002010-11-26T00:51:58.750-07:00I think that in the last ten or so years, the narc...I think that in the last ten or so years, the narcocorrido has fundamentally changed to reflect themes of violence, greed/material gain, and drug use. If you go back to a song like "Contrabando y Traicion" (Camelia la Tejana) that is not even really a song about narco-trafficking, but rather a song that reflects the sentiment, "Hell hath no fury like a woman's scorn." In the early nineties it seemed that all of the narcocorridos were about the narco and his truck, much in the same way that during the Revolution the songs were often about the revolutionary and his horse. The 90s narcocorridos were often about the trafficker overcoming poverty via the drug trade, they were about the outlaw outmaneuvering the law. I reference songs such as "El Centenario" or "Los Dos Hectareas." Now the songs glorify violence. They sing about designer clothing labels which I think is very unbecoming and even effeminate for male led groups. They glorify drug use. The corridos of the 90s still maintained a few "universals" that one could relate to (overcoming poverty, the underdog evading the law) that lent them some artistic merit. That is not so in this current wave of music. I think it's garbage, for the most part.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5195137745759962560.post-67383047533364876342010-11-24T20:27:48.379-07:002010-11-24T20:27:48.379-07:00Anon 2:00pm
Those aren't "costumes."...Anon 2:00pm<br />Those aren't "costumes." They are well dressed, classy Mexican cowboy SUITS. If you don't like it that's okay, however, you don't need to be insulting.la gringa en Chihuasnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5195137745759962560.post-21753398937209445202010-11-24T20:00:53.901-07:002010-11-24T20:00:53.901-07:00One thing that Mario Quintero from Los Tucanes sai...One thing that Mario Quintero from Los Tucanes said is very true...If you don't give shout outs to the Narcos they take it personal. They take it as a blow to " their self esteem " Every Narco who gets a corridos feels like they have accomplished something. The more corridos they make about you the more your legend grows. Although corridos can be a narcos downfall as well. You are high profile and more at risk when someone makes a corridos about you, but if the goverment has already identified you and what orgianization you work for then it really doesn't matter. On another topic, some of those artists mentioned like Valentin Elizalde rumor is he was killed in Tamualipas because he was involved or trying to involve himself with a woman who had ties to Los Zetas. They warned him to stay away from the girl and rumor is he didn't so they gunned him down. He was known to be a gallo with ladies..Hence his nickname, the ladies man....And Sergio Vega well rumor is he owed money to somebody and that somebody was maybe a Narco? Who knows? Yeah some of these Artists get started by glorifying Narcos but it can be a tricky situation when singing Narco corridos because you sing the wrong thing or write the wrong lyrics..Well then it gets dicey. Narcos are known to Preapprove their corridos before they hit the airway so they kind of give the green light. If they don't approve well you don't dare put a corrido out there then. Every cartel has their own little niche artists who sing to the them. Chapo and Mayo probably have the most corridos out there right now. The lesser of the evil from what they say..The Zetas use to have corridos made for them before they turned rouge. The CDG has had many corridos sang for them including Los Tucanes who sing el corrido del Metro Tres but they sing mostly to the Arrelanos and Sinaloenses..I could go on and on but thing is...The public is intrigued by corridos and they want to hear the story behind these people. Is it bad for Mexico, well yes..When you are in a Narco war last thing you want is music glorifying the bad guys, right? Who knows.....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5195137745759962560.post-67669083392639967652010-11-24T17:14:52.601-07:002010-11-24T17:14:52.601-07:00Hasta la Madre...
I would call the " Movimien...Hasta la Madre...<br />I would call the " Movimiento Alterado " worthless corridos. I am not saying I have not ever heard their songs or they don't have good rythm but really listen to the lyrics and tell me that they just aren't glorifying the murders and somehow promoting the cartel lifestyle.They are making a dime and glorifying killing...Let's take for example the song that Los Bukanas sing... Which starts out with " Cuerno de Chivo Bazuka en la nuca bolando cabezas al que se atravesa "....I mean the song has rythm I give them that...But these guys go about acting out like wannabe dope movers, hitmen etc... I am strong believer that these songs hype up these sicarios in Mexico and it has been proven. A few months ago some sicarios shot a video that hit this blog posted a video from youtube in Chihuahua, the sicarios were hanging narco banners..Then they were running around Chihuahua with their AK's in hand intimidating people...And what were they listening to? Los Bukanas song, Con Cuerno de Chivo the whole time! While I am not saying it was all because of the corrido dedicated to sicarios. I am sure a part of it was them doing a ounce of coke the music and the gun in their hand. For the youth that lives in Mexico, for someone who doesn't have another option, well they take the dark path and most of them pay with their lives. Another song thats just garbage is the one by Los Buitres " El Coco " Starting out by saying he wakes up and does coke, miday he does coke, snorts so much coke he snorts a key in a week...Thats just garbage, I mean I have known people who were involved in that lifestyle and they would tell you that whole narco lifestyle has changed. It went from being down on the low low to be glorified and excepted...And the more bad ass you are and the more drugs you consume and money you make it's what makes you... I am not judging anyone these people do what they do but I am just calling as I see it. Being and knowing people all around here in the states and Mexico...It's a whole nother ball game and different times...My ancestors in Mexico and many others who fought and worked hard are turning in their graves in disgust to see how we as Mexicanos have turned on each other as a society....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5195137745759962560.post-17423591494711205322010-11-24T16:55:32.476-07:002010-11-24T16:55:32.476-07:005-7 es una clave en Mexico within the Sinaloan Car...5-7 es una clave en Mexico within the Sinaloan Cartel. It's basically " glorified " by hit squad " Los Antrax " mentioning they are ready for combat. For example " Ay estamos al 5-7 pariente " saying I am ready for combat my brother...Not direct translation but you get the point. You hear it many corridos like el Grupo Cartel, Roberto Tapia, Larry Hernandez, El Tigrillo etc.....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5195137745759962560.post-27813180751427912692010-11-24T14:18:33.356-07:002010-11-24T14:18:33.356-07:00Agreed 8:38,
Personally I like an old school band...Agreed 8:38,<br /><br />Personally I like an old school band like Los Tigres, I don't want to condone the actual acts of violence that are described in some of the songs, as you say:<br /><br />"Corridos should have a story behind it and it's intriguing to people when true events ore people are mentioned that is all."<br /><br />Very true. I only look for new corridos when I don't know about someone by name(Metro 3 for example) but although I'm not looking for anything concrete, it is always an interesting depiction of the person or event I wish to know more about.Smurfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01405158440694459062noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5195137745759962560.post-15603435051184263792010-11-24T14:00:14.236-07:002010-11-24T14:00:14.236-07:00This music sucks. Can't stand accordians or th...This music sucks. Can't stand accordians or their high-pitched voices. And what's up with those silly costumes? Jeezus.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5195137745759962560.post-35952181567088886012010-11-24T12:06:08.485-07:002010-11-24T12:06:08.485-07:005.7 mi plevada = $5.7 million for information lead...5.7 mi plevada = $5.7 million for information leading to his capture.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5195137745759962560.post-8088437506504069902010-11-24T11:12:17.872-07:002010-11-24T11:12:17.872-07:005.7 is a Belgium made semi-automatic pistol. 5.7 ...5.7 is a Belgium made semi-automatic pistol. 5.7 is the diameter of the bullet. Light weight made of mostly polymers less the steel slide. Can hold 20 rounds. Used alot by US government.Adamnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5195137745759962560.post-30524313705339599982010-11-24T10:45:11.709-07:002010-11-24T10:45:11.709-07:00Capo, me imagino que ha de significar algo como 10...Capo, me imagino que ha de significar algo como 10-23, esperar instrucciones.hasta la madrehttp://narco.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5195137745759962560.post-85998922917170046832010-11-24T10:39:47.630-07:002010-11-24T10:39:47.630-07:00Hey 7:47am, I wouldn't call Movimiento Altera...Hey 7:47am, I wouldn't call Movimiento Alterado garbage, like you said, they symbolize how futile and nonsensical the current waves of violence have become. Kids as young as 12 years old committing murder and decapitating has to be expressed in a way. I agree that the newer artists like the Komander, Gerardo Ortiz and the like do not have the class of legends like Los Tigres, but they are still valuable for the reality they represent.<br /><br />Really cool article Smurf, I think the approach you took to the topic was appropriate.hasta la madrehttp://narco.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5195137745759962560.post-58160910098925062322010-11-24T10:36:17.473-07:002010-11-24T10:36:17.473-07:00What a crap ass song.. Just trying to make a buck ...What a crap ass song.. Just trying to make a buck or two off some imbecile..Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5195137745759962560.post-28185522536277329032010-11-24T10:30:14.374-07:002010-11-24T10:30:14.374-07:00anon 8:38 i totally agree kids idolize these ppl k...anon 8:38 i totally agree kids idolize these ppl kinda like rap music in the u.s. money hos and cars ya know...most of these kids grow up with very lil and they see what they could have by doing this and that right or wrong(that whole right and wrong thang begins in the home but thats a whole nother subject)la gringanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5195137745759962560.post-55744886076056916472010-11-24T08:38:49.754-07:002010-11-24T08:38:49.754-07:00I personally like corridos and or narcocorridos as...I personally like corridos and or narcocorridos as there is a difference. But it takes a person to distinguish whats real and whats an illusion. What do I mean by that? Well some people listen to corridos and just listen to them and take it as music. Others do take these lyrics and take it to another level and take it as an adrenaline rush and they think they are living in a corrido. Corridos have always been a part of the Mexican culture but some singers do sing nothing but garbage these days and I don't consider it good music. Los Tucanes, Los Huracanes, Los Tigres those are legends in the music and their corridos are music..Some of the new artists coming out like whole Movimiento Alterado is just ridiculous, I mean the hyped up movement...Most of there songs just talk about snorting lines, chopping heads off and spending money. It's garbage and I do believe that it plays a good part in how people in Mexico especially wannabe sicarios and thugs go around Mexico committing crimes and killing folks. Corridos should have a story behind it and it's intriguing to people when true events ore people are mentioned that is all. But the music that does promote killing and how much of a bad as you are does play a role into these kids minds these days. I see it everywhere I go here in America and Mexico. Kids these days do idolize the people in corridos and they should be idolizing productive people in society.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5195137745759962560.post-27013607646885428552010-11-24T07:47:35.029-07:002010-11-24T07:47:35.029-07:00que quiere decir 5.7 mi plevada?que quiere decir 5.7 mi plevada?Caponoreply@blogger.com