tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5195137745759962560.post2545394068083333427..comments2024-03-29T03:07:59.566-06:00Comments on Borderland Beat: Puerto Vallarta Cruise Line Tourists Not Attacked by Group of GunmenUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger60125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5195137745759962560.post-52280335217264117692012-04-27T15:06:36.546-06:002012-04-27T15:06:36.546-06:00By the way dont' come to NYC either. It's ...By the way dont' come to NYC either. It's so so dangerous. Generally the criminals go after tourists, so all of you stay the hell away. I want to mug a tourist for always being in my way when I'm in a rush, taking up space on the subway with their suitcases and just being general yokels from the midwest or especially the south. God if I have to hear another numbnut from down south with that hillbilly ass accent I'll scream, or even better whip out my gun and rob your ass. <br />NYers can't stand you and despite what our silver spoon mayor encourages, after all his vision is NYC only for tourists and the wealthy, we don't want tourists, except maybe the Europeans as they have a modicum of sophistication.Bocheballhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00278056308921176178noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5195137745759962560.post-90532582305945791952012-03-17T11:43:58.627-06:002012-03-17T11:43:58.627-06:00I've just returned from 3 months driving aroun...I've just returned from 3 months driving around Mexico in an RV. Obviously this robbery in PV was a very isolated incident. The only times I felt unsafe were from the Acapulco municipal police and at 2 police check points (south of Mazatlan under a bridge & heading north on the pay highway in Sonora just before you pay). The police hold you ransom and insist on money/coffee/cigarettes/whatever and don't let you go until you give them something. If the Mexican government was smart, they'd send a gringo RV south with video cameras on satellite hookup to catch the police in the act. The military was professional, polite, thorough and responsible - I give them full credit for "keeping the peace". Considering I drove down to Oaxaca and through Puebla and around DF, etc, that's quite a distance and rarely had moments of feeling unsafe. The big dog helped though. PV is basically like being in a US city, and believe me, I was in several rural villages, off-beat towns, etc so this story was an unusual situation. The reason for not driving at night/going out late is that the military is dawn-dusk. I drove several times at night. Actually, Phoenix was where I felt unsafe.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5195137745759962560.post-40061001408866563492012-03-13T14:02:41.688-06:002012-03-13T14:02:41.688-06:00As a women Canada, living in Puerto Vallarta for 2...As a women Canada, living in Puerto Vallarta for 22 years I have seen some changes in Puerto Vallarta. In no way negative,the very unfortunate robbery that took place in Nogalito was a isolated incident for Puerto Vallarta. Meaning we do not have people or groups whipping out guns and asking everyone to hand over their goods! We have over 3,000 retired,or part time forein residents from the US, Canada, and other parts of the world that consider Puerto Vallarta and Mexico a home, a country they have grown to love, and more importantly many of us re raising our children here. Yes, truthfully there are parts of Mexico that the Embassy recommends we do not travel as there may be some drug related violence. Tourism and Trade with forein coutries is what Mexico does want and will continue to work at creating a safer enviroments!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5195137745759962560.post-49349962671721521562012-03-10T00:29:54.172-07:002012-03-10T00:29:54.172-07:00I am so happy to hear life is good for you in acun...I am so happy to hear life is good for you in acuna! I was taking my daughter there for her braces and really sad when the border patrol scared us into not crossing last Aug.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5195137745759962560.post-16456465246475568772012-03-09T10:19:55.228-07:002012-03-09T10:19:55.228-07:00Speaking from the standpoint of one who has travel...Speaking from the standpoint of one who has traveled to many of the most dangerous countries, (including treks through narco controlled countries like Guatemala, Honduras and Columbia), all one needs to do is have some common sense. Anyone in law enforcement knows where I’m coming from in the J.D.L.R. situational security assement and tactical advantage examination. Don't be an idiot and sign up for tours you havent thuroughly researched, if it looks suspicious it probably is, go with your gut insticnt and most importantly don’t take risks unless you are COMPLETELY prepared for the consequences.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5195137745759962560.post-4638291881487136082012-03-08T00:20:56.226-07:002012-03-08T00:20:56.226-07:00Wow! All this makes for an interesting read for an...Wow! All this makes for an interesting read for an insomniac! The world is full of crime. End of story. The focus on Mexico's crime is none other than propaganda to keep the u.s. citizens at home spending their greens. I've lived in Vallarta for 14 years and constantly hear about shootings in Vancouver. Are the cruiseships turning around because of the shootings there?? NO. It's all pretty obvious to me what this is all about. Be safe whether you're in Mexico, States or Canada. The focus on Mexico crime is getting a little boring. Good night!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5195137745759962560.post-90742594036772158342012-03-06T08:08:26.136-07:002012-03-06T08:08:26.136-07:00yeah Mexico is so safe that all those soldados y m...yeah Mexico is so safe that all those soldados y marinas y federal police are there just for show<br /><br /> .....to try to compare crime in the USa to what is going on in Mexico is an apples and oranges situation...the danger in Mexico is not from the common criminal but from the cartels...and they don't care how safe and special YOU feel ...if you are unlucky enough to cross any of them in any way ..you are fucked ..more ways than one ..<br /><br />Mexico is as creepy as all hell right now ...mebbe not for you guerita especiale..or for you "love slave"...how about you break up with Gabriella ..and see if things change for you...<br /><br />you people are living in a dream world..."lito"britonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5195137745759962560.post-13583074388429792672012-03-06T07:02:46.791-07:002012-03-06T07:02:46.791-07:00I live on a boat here in La Cruz and feel much saf...I live on a boat here in La Cruz and feel much safer then where I'm from Newport Beach,California!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5195137745759962560.post-60304355405732934282012-03-02T23:52:27.026-07:002012-03-02T23:52:27.026-07:00March 2, 2012 9:59 AM
ok bt how many civillians yo...March 2, 2012 9:59 AM<br />ok bt how many civillians your forces kill in afganistant iraq libya and syria people get killed because us want why dont u talk about innocent peoples killed by ur forces u motherfucker shut ur holeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5195137745759962560.post-37177218127299239942012-03-02T15:33:23.026-07:002012-03-02T15:33:23.026-07:00i dont know what the f , people kill and rob every...i dont know what the f , people kill and rob every where , for example i got rob many times here in the us by criminals not by cops , and shot at by a few stuped kids and no one seemed to care , the world is fuckt , thats all i can saylutticreshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14891546762702360537noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5195137745759962560.post-16704142528909949992012-03-02T15:21:06.497-07:002012-03-02T15:21:06.497-07:00Yea cause downtown Phoenix regularly has truckload...Yea cause downtown Phoenix regularly has truckloads of headless corpses dumped on the street don't kid your selvesAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5195137745759962560.post-80661097581735093752012-03-02T14:51:22.154-07:002012-03-02T14:51:22.154-07:00Calm down Captain America!!! We all know that Gabr...Calm down Captain America!!! We all know that Gabriela was born Gabriel....Pinche maricon!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5195137745759962560.post-32352790552305432622012-03-02T14:45:29.008-07:002012-03-02T14:45:29.008-07:00I will share a little story with you people, on No...I will share a little story with you people, on November 20th 2011 my nephew was robbed by a group of men in San Diego Ca, he was on his way back from school and he was riding an $1,800 cannondale bicycle, he was attacked by two individuals two blocks away from home, the people who attack him were outside a house hanging out, it was for men and a female, only two of the men attacked my nephew and they stole the bicycle. It took about 30 minutes for the police to come to the house to do the police report, my nephew told the police where the incident happened and they said they couldn't do anything because they said that they didn't know if the suspects live there or not, they only said that an investigator will take over.<br /><br />A week after in Corona Ca other nephews left their XBOX 360 in their garage, the next day after school they come back looking for their XBOX 360 and they realize their game console was gone, they called the police, the police said they will send someone to do the police report but no one ever came, they called again and they said the same thing, that they will send someone to get the police report, till today no one ever went to do the police report. <br /><br />We are safer in the U.S. but one thing is for sure crimes do happen in the U.S. and many of us happened to be victims every now and then.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5195137745759962560.post-53287787388856292102012-03-02T14:10:13.947-07:002012-03-02T14:10:13.947-07:00All good comments. I spent the late '60s and e...All good comments. I spent the late '60s and early '70s in the DF and Mazatlan and I speak, read and write Spanish. I pay attention to media in both languages.<br /><br />You don't have to run me over with a truck. I get it. Feeling safe is whistling in the dark, hoping. Being safe is something different. <br /><br />Mexico is in a world of trouble. There is no rule of law. Never has been. There is a wide-spread, long-term tradition of corruption and impunity.<br /><br />Mexico has not one public institution that can be trusted - from the lowest traffic cop to the Federal Chief of Public Health. Some are good, many are not. It depends on where you are, when you are there and what the situation is. <br /><br />The prison system has collapsed. I believe Calderon is a good guy and is doing his level best to make the changes that will save his country. But he is up against 80 years of bad government. <br /><br />People that talk about the US sending troops have been watching too much TV. The US doesn't have what Mexico needs in the way of force. The US needs to UNDERSTAND Mexico for once and treat Mexico as a friend, for once.<br /><br />Listen to Tex and Chivis and Buggs and BB. You can trust their reports and views.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5195137745759962560.post-24172102719169503602012-03-02T12:28:26.149-07:002012-03-02T12:28:26.149-07:00For the person saying robberies were not taking pl...For the person saying robberies were not taking place on buses in the USA...you are wrong..in San Francisco they are robbing people...google 'bus robberies San Francisco' and you will find several. As an expat living in Puerto Vallarta who travels to the USA often I feel much safer here than in the USA where the news reports robberies & murders daily (and school shootings, etc)...this one item is big news here!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5195137745759962560.post-16114088083807370672012-03-02T11:29:12.838-07:002012-03-02T11:29:12.838-07:00As a gringo living in NW Mexico i am glad to see t...As a gringo living in NW Mexico i am glad to see the comments that try but probably unsuccessfully bend the perception of those that love to bash Mexico. Its like, look how bad it is in Mexico, then maybe you wont see how bad it is in the US. The story above does add context to the blown out of proportion story full of lies and exaggerations about what happened to those unfortunate people in PV. I am sure the way the articles were written sold a few more ads for the "news - arrg I hate saying that they tell the news" outlets. Heading out the door to witness some be-headings of my own, at the local sea-food market I have some Jumbo Blue shrimp that need to be cleaned.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5195137745759962560.post-42818965031456660962012-03-02T10:08:16.426-07:002012-03-02T10:08:16.426-07:003/1 7:25PM,
Wow...why would you leave your baby ou...3/1 7:25PM,<br />Wow...why would you leave your baby outside, while you go inside of a store? You sound pretty stupid...but hey your European. I would venture to say all resort towns/tourist areas in Mexico are safe partly because DTO's have business ventures there that generate money for them! Like that coffee shop you frequent is probably owned by a cartel member...being European is no excuse for being ignorant. Keep and eye on your baby!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5195137745759962560.post-39916966233895808932012-03-02T09:59:04.469-07:002012-03-02T09:59:04.469-07:00@David Crandall,
Really? Tell you what, why don...@David Crandall,<br />Really? Tell you what, why don't you pack your shit and relocate to Mexico, since you hate "Gringos!" What a fucking loser...the term gringos refers to foreign people..if you live in the Bay area than there aren't any "gringos" dipshit! BTW asshole...how many mass graves, beheadings, dismemberments, corpses on public display, have there been in the "Bay area?" That's what I thought..STFU!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5195137745759962560.post-70747215764164715512012-03-02T09:24:23.619-07:002012-03-02T09:24:23.619-07:00Sh@#$ happens... Muggings too. Everywhere in the W...Sh@#$ happens... Muggings too. Everywhere in the World...Wanderlusthttp://wanderlust.bajan.plnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5195137745759962560.post-41415491898724729902012-03-02T08:02:06.043-07:002012-03-02T08:02:06.043-07:00Good input commenters!
Ok…first of all I am a hug...Good input commenters! <br />Ok…first of all I am a huge proponent of 2/3 of Mexico being safe or safer than the US. But it is not black and white and it is irresponsible to portray it that way. I also have lived and worked in Mx over 8 years. In the violent NE, in Coahuila with an apt in Mty. To paint a rosy picture is ridiculous. In my homes in the states I do not personally know one person that has been kidnapped, killed, carjacked or home burned to the ground. I have never been in the midst of a shootout, seen banners warning of death or pinned to our executed police chief with ice picks. In the states I never had a cartel break into my centers for the blind and kitchens for impoverished children and stripped of everything from braille machines to water heaters and destroying everything else “just because” with a warning to stay off the news . <br /> In Mx I personally know families who 6 of their loved ones kidnapped only one seen again after being rescued at a safe house, 4 friends carjacked and my assistant leaves her suv on the Tx side after being chased presumably to be carjacked, she drives a “naca-mobile” to be safe.. All the other aforementioned incidents happened in my town to people I know. We have had two major shoot outs directly in front of my office in the last year between the Marina and the last letter.<br />So let’s not say all is perfect. To the guy touting Aca and Guadalajara…God bless you & chances are one will be safe there, but fact is your chance of being a victim of a crime goes up exponentially in those places and with so many safer and beautiful places in Mex..why chance it?<br />To the British-Gringo with the blue eyes in Mty. Are you kidding me? Blue eyes in Mty or anywhere in Coahuila is far from a head turner as MANY Mexicans there have blue eyes, fair skin and hair. How can you live there and not know that? Or that murder is up in Mty 200% and violent crimes ditto? <br />And to address why it makes a difference if one man did it or a gang? Think bigger. If one person commits the crime most folks will conclude “it can happen anywhere” If a group of gunmen rob a group of tourists one concludes organized criminals, narcos, and it is seldom a one time event but will evolve into standard practice and perhaps into murder as the buses of Tamaulipas….. it is a distinctive and important difference.<br />I would like to ask those in PV what was reported there of this robbery, what “facts” and was it reported or did you have to rely on sources out of the area? In my city that’s what we have to do, even when the comandante was executed it was not reported for days and then barely so…..& my dos centavos says PV is still safe and I would not stay away because of any violence (at this time) Be responsible check with the state department for travel advisories though they tend to be over the top it is a good place to start. and sign up for the safe travel program. http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/cis/cis_970.html and lastly use your consulate! they will give you a fountain of info including crimes against americans in the past 60 days. <br />Paz, ChivisChivishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09608632774393266701noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5195137745759962560.post-81469409640857515312012-03-02T07:55:40.002-07:002012-03-02T07:55:40.002-07:00Finally someone who speaks the truth!!! Mexico is ...Finally someone who speaks the truth!!! Mexico is safe! It's all about paying attention to your surroundings and knowing who you are hanging around with!!!!!Gringa in Mexiconoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5195137745759962560.post-75100672802102094182012-03-02T07:50:36.723-07:002012-03-02T07:50:36.723-07:00Please don't criticize our border towns, just ...Please don't criticize our border towns, just as you don't want us criticizing PV. I am a gringa living in Acuña and I have NEVER felt unsafe. I walk around town and drive by myself all of the time. The Mexican citizens are very nice and helpful. My border town is jus as any other city in Mexico; there are certain areas you avoid and you have to know who you are associating with. Just as in the US, if you associate with the wrong people you are looking for trouble! So please, if you really care for Mexixo as you say you do, then do not run down one area of Mexixo just to make your city look better!!!!Gringa in Mexiconoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5195137745759962560.post-84165066851008893422012-03-02T07:23:20.573-07:002012-03-02T07:23:20.573-07:00to Lisa from Seattle, You remind me of the 3 stude...to Lisa from Seattle, You remind me of the 3 students captured on the Iranian border. You are so smart and think you have a right to go anywhere you like, and that the people in other countries just love to see you. The only problem is when your butt gets in trouble you scream for the U.S. Government to come in and save you. You fools your 'rights and freedoms' as an American citizen END when you leave the United States. I have no sympathy for you fools who choose to put yourselves in danger and feel that the time and money to gain the release of fools is a waste of the American taxpayers money and embarrassment to the country. You are free to go, and you are free to find your way back any way you can. Just don't burden anyone else with your foolishness.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5195137745759962560.post-53648810910627541672012-03-02T07:17:20.714-07:002012-03-02T07:17:20.714-07:00Look up "crime statistics" for your own ...Look up "crime statistics" for your own town before you condemn PV for a US hyped robbery. I have lived in Mexico full time for almost 13 years and have never felt unsafe.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5195137745759962560.post-73746879066522801842012-03-02T07:11:37.823-07:002012-03-02T07:11:37.823-07:00If Mexico is so safe and wonderful then tell me wh...If Mexico is so safe and wonderful then tell me why so many of Mexico's people risk life and safety to come to the U.S. The people who come here claim that the country is dangerous and THEY FEAR living in Mexico. Some say they are afraid to even visit relatives. Sumbody Lyin Sumwhere....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com