tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5195137745759962560.post1751898780511478592..comments2024-03-28T14:21:00.302-06:00Comments on Borderland Beat: Video of Shooting on U.S.-Mexico Border ReleasedUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger48125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5195137745759962560.post-79889197382550596372010-10-03T03:03:02.871-06:002010-10-03T03:03:02.871-06:00Murder! That's all there is to it. It's a...Murder! That's all there is to it. It's a cold blooded murder.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5195137745759962560.post-14048414485246419012010-08-03T23:12:18.331-06:002010-08-03T23:12:18.331-06:00AFTER ALL PRETTY MUCH THE MAJORITY OF US PEOPLE WI...AFTER ALL PRETTY MUCH THE MAJORITY OF US PEOPLE WILL DEFEND THE PERSON ON THIS SIDE BUT LETS GET A LIL WHITE KID TO THROW ROCKS ON US SOIL TO A MEXICAN OFFICIAL OR MIKITARY..AND GET SHOT AND KILLED ...AND NOW LETS SEE THE REACTION OFF ALL YOU PEOPLE DEFENDINDING THE BP..HAHA GUUD 1 BUT I BET EVERY IS GONNA B BUT THIS LITTLE BOY WAS IN AMERICAN SOIL WAT HAVE THESE MEXICANS COME TO..I KNO THE BP HAS A RIGHT AND I RESPECT US OFFICIALS BUT CLEARLY THE BOYS HAD NOT HURT HIM BEFORE HE FIRED AND THEY WERE RUNNING BACK .I WOULD HAVE UNDERSTAND IF THE OFFICER HAD GOTTEN HIT BY A ROCK THEN GO AHEAD DEFEND YOURSELF BUT I BELIEVE THERE WAS NO NEED TO KILL THE YOUNGSTER..BUT LETS JSUT WAIT TILL THE TABLES GET TURNED..NOW THERES ALLOT OF DRUG TRAFFIKERS THAT REALLY DESERVE TO GET SHOT BUT ..FUNNY HOW THE DRUGS ALWAYS MAKE IT TO AMERICAN SOIL ..AND NO 1 HURT..AND U KNO THOSE SMUGGLERS REALLY DO HAVE WEAPONS ..I GUESS THE BP PREFERS TOLET THE DRUGS PASS SO THEY CAN GO HOME TO THEIR FAMILIES ..THATS BULLSHIT....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5195137745759962560.post-49129193132700491122010-06-28T15:16:00.732-06:002010-06-28T15:16:00.732-06:00he shouldn't have shot the kid...shoot over hi...he shouldn't have shot the kid...shoot over his head yes...in his head no...but the kid paid the price for playing with the bull...what would mexican policia/militares do if a gang of gringo kids were throwing rocks at them....we all know the answer...sad situationAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5195137745759962560.post-13239298583834859862010-06-28T09:31:55.550-06:002010-06-28T09:31:55.550-06:00The ones who know the least, always shout the loud...The ones who know the least, always shout the loudest to be heard. What's wrong with people is that they prefer not to get stoned to death. People don't like being in fights. With people whom are irrational, high as a kite, and feel no pain. Both of the subjects chose to engage law enforcement officials, tried to hurt them, and suffered the consequence of their actions. Meth head smuggler gave himself a damn heart attack. If anybody is able to fight off several people uncontrollably they are lucky they don't get shot. If you just whooped three four five of my buddies ass I'm not going to fight you I'm going to stop you by any means necessaryAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5195137745759962560.post-39813184872958546552010-06-28T09:19:06.360-06:002010-06-28T09:19:06.360-06:00Apparently the same ignorant stance has been taken...Apparently the same ignorant stance has been taken by citizens of Mexico that the evil empire is just out to get them. I see this daily living near the border (san diego) and choke down the rhetoric constantly which most often is accompanied by the "racist" card when logic has defeated the shouts of ignorant nonsense. Rule of thumb, don't argue. With an idiot, especially when they are irrational. Now a fine point for those of you who believe the Agent is a bad guy who used excessive and unecessary force; you have a gun, and a group of my homies and I are trying to bust your brains out of your head with jagged rocks (with what they no doubt believed would be with impunity since history shows they always retreat further into mexico). You actually manage to stop one of us in the middle of comitting a crime against you. Your position would then be to give us a hug, hope we go away, or perhaps the one of us you did catch was a convicted child rapist. You really defend this position by saying u would let the criminal go? That you would be bullied and retreat, allowing the criminal and his criminal friends caught in the act to escape with impunity only to come back to your home (or job) even more brazen to this time be successful at collapsing youjr skull eviscerating your brains? What would your family say to that? Your community? Alas, I imagine you will retort with "I'm a racist", right? Well, I. Am an american, with a spanish last name. Maybe I should hate myself then in that case. If you are proud of your country and you aren't american its fine, but if you are an american you are a racist who hates everybody and are trying to hold everybody down when your opinion is voiced. Perhaps if your beloved Mexico actually adequately put effort into controlling the border these idiot people would have been stopped before they had a chance to try and kill the agent, then the poor bastard wouldn't have to carry the burden of choosing his life over someone else.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5195137745759962560.post-15429915097341044472010-06-18T17:59:56.782-06:002010-06-18T17:59:56.782-06:00Here is the problem... You who think the BP agent ...Here is the problem... You who think the BP agent was at fault are just ignorant and not aware of the daily activity on the border. <br /><br />First, of all let’s set something straight… that "Kid" was a known smuggler in that area and was on the top 3 most wanted juvenile smugglers list in El Paso, TX. He had already been arrested 6 times for smuggling and illegal entry into the U.S.. This was not some good little school kid that was just playing by the border like the media/family likes to portray. Furthermore, the Agent isn't able to tell someone’s age as he is dodging rocks that they are throwing at them. A "kid" can kill you with a rock just as fast as an adult can. Everything needs to realize that the border were they are at there is nothing separating Mexico and the U.S. except for a “line drawn in the sand” It wasn’t like this Agent was behind a fence or had some kind of cover. If he wound have been hit in the head and knocked unconscious then he could have easily been killed by the “kids”. Those “kids” would have run over and stolen everything off his belt and don’t think they would have left his gun. WAKE UP PEOPLE!! KIDS AREN’T INNOCENT!!!<br /><br />Let's not forget what happened to Border Patrol Agent Robert Rosas in Campo, CA just last July. When he was patrolling the border and was lured to a location next to the border fence and killed by a few illegals. One of the members who was arrested, Christian Daniel Castro Alvarez, admitted assisting in the murder of Rosas and he was just 16 at the time. <br /><br />Kids aren’t innocent little kids anymore like some of you think. The smugglers hire those kids to smuggle people because they know they will be sent back to Mexico and not charged because they are under 18 years old. These “kids” are raised as harden criminals and smugglers. They will gain respect/rank in the smuggling organizations if they can injure or kill Border Patrol Agents. Of course you don’t see the parents getting involved and trying to educate their children because they are bringing home the money and so they don’t care. <br /><br />Hernandez Rojas died of a heart attack in the hospital after the Customs and Border Protection Officer used a Tazer on him. It was not US Border Patrol who tazed him. CBP officers from the San Ysidro POE assisted Border Patrol agents who were trying to control Rojas after he started to fight with them. CBP officers used there Tazer on Rojas because he wouldn’t stop resisting. BP agents NEVER were beating Rojas, if anything Rojas was getting the upper hand that is why the use of Taser was needed. Let’s not forget that this Rojas was also not so innocent, he had Methamphetamines in his system and was already diagnosed with Hypertension. Have you tried to control a man that is on Methamphetamines and is fighting you?? A tazer was the best choice, since ever agent/officer who is carrying one has been shot by it and it didn’t kill them. They know what the effects of the Taser are since they had all been tazed and they know that would be the safest way for them to subdue the subject with the least amount of hard to him and to the agents. It is not easy doing a medical evaluation on a person that is geeked up and trying to fight you to make sure the doesn’t have a medical condition that will cause the Taser + Methamphetamines + hypertension to kill him. They were defending themselves from an attacker and not doing anything that they shouldn’t have done. <br /><br />If you don’t know the truths don’t write on subjects and act like you do.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5195137745759962560.post-53983896395299039932010-06-14T16:25:41.014-06:002010-06-14T16:25:41.014-06:00You, that think it was OK what happen to the boy, ...You, that think it was OK what happen to the boy, are criminals as same as the BP.In all the world they know you like people who think their right is on top of the others.<br />You are so, so wrong.<br /><br />A lot of people wants to make this thing like something without importance, by talking about the drugs cartels.<br />That is very smart,...you may think.<br />Can you see the diference?<br />And it is the second killing by the BP in less than two weeks.<br />What is wrong with you people.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5195137745759962560.post-28044886121652855372010-06-14T09:49:15.421-06:002010-06-14T09:49:15.421-06:00Bob from San Antonio....
I commend you. Very well...Bob from San Antonio....<br /><br />I commend you. Very well put. Mexico should pay the boy's family reparations for allowing him to do such a stupid deed. They are responsible for his death by not guarding their side of the border.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5195137745759962560.post-61993692918567580402010-06-14T07:46:23.900-06:002010-06-14T07:46:23.900-06:00The BP agent is the only one who knows what was in...The BP agent is the only one who knows what was in his mind. If he was in fear of his life, he acted appropriately.<br /><br />Speculation about the Mexican boy and his family are non issues. We have allowed well over 20 million people to enter our country illegally, mostly to enrich corporations that provided jobs. Over the past few years we've changed the rules. <br /><br />The kids on the border often ask each other, "Have you crossed?" because it has almost become a right of passage to cross our border.<br /><br />It looks like the two or three other kids threw rocks at the agent when their friend was arrested. Stupid kids. I don't blame the agent if he feared for his life. Been a cop all my life and know about situations like this and how easy it is to pass judgment.<br /><br />The agent is under investigation, talking with attorneys, second guessing himself, playing 'what if' and is a human being in one of the least appreciated and thankless job in law enforcement.<br /><br />99 times out a hundred, these agents catch people looking for work or kids. BUT that other guy is armed, smuggling dope, or a wanted felon. The agents are not mind readers. Fear, adrenalin, and worry about being killed, imprisoned, sued are all factors that press down on you during the 10th of a second you have to make a critical decision. <br /><br />My prayers and heart go out to the agent and the boy's family.<br /><br />I do blame Mexico. The government knows our enforcement policy has changed and make no effort to enforce its own laws about leaving Mexico from places other than legal points of entry and exit. Yes, there is a Mexican law that could be used. At the least, Mexico should be hammering away at known crossing points and lending cooperation to the U.S. so these situations may be avoided.<br /><br />As for the Perer's post about 'lessons from the Soviets', we are following their example. We are building a wall. I can't imagine a more despicable ideology to follow that that of Communist countries. But, I am just an American and in love with the ideals our country used to exhibit to the world.Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15871790265576161686noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5195137745759962560.post-23564277897643150612010-06-14T00:15:27.391-06:002010-06-14T00:15:27.391-06:00WE NEED TO TAKE A LESSON FROM THE SOVIETS AND OTHE...WE NEED TO TAKE A LESSON FROM THE SOVIETS AND OTHER COMMUNIST NATIONS. WNNA KEEP THESE LEECHES OUT OF THE COUNTRY? HOW ABOUT LAND MINES?Peternoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5195137745759962560.post-58756726494995926132010-06-13T14:04:02.273-06:002010-06-13T14:04:02.273-06:00But shots to kill someone are legal? I think it...But shots to kill someone are legal? I think it's all about circumstances wether to injure or kill someone. In this case I simply don't see enough of a threat for the BP Agent to act this way. Furthermore to all those who like to compare the situation with the border between Mexico and Guatemala. Well I sure hope to expect a different attitude from a US Border Protection officer than from Mexican. Or do you live by the saying if they can so can we??! It's obvious that mexican Border Agents have their flaws and misuse their power but this doesn't mean our officers have to act the same way. <br /><br />To me this seems more like an act as if he was thinking: "You just wait and see, you throw rocks, well I can even "throw" bullets at you and than we'll see who's worse off."<br /><br />For all understanding of patriotism - but let's not blind our judgment!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5195137745759962560.post-3431890309382872742010-06-13T11:33:19.134-06:002010-06-13T11:33:19.134-06:00Would the outrage be lessened if the individual wh...Would the outrage be lessened if the individual who was shot was a gang banging felon? It was tragic that a fourteen year old lost his life but I doubt there would be the same amount of public outcry if he was older and less of a "model citizen". A fouteen year old is just as capable to harm someone as a grown man. I don't see anyone volunteering to let a fourteen year old throw rocks at them. I know I wouldn't....<br /><br />You people who judge the BP agent before knowing the facts should put the shoe on the other foot. What would you have done? Seriously, would you just stand there and possibly get hit in the head by a rock? The agent did his job and no, warning shots are not legal, nor are shots to simply wound someone.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5195137745759962560.post-23774793926086067692010-06-13T09:01:28.831-06:002010-06-13T09:01:28.831-06:00That border patrol agent should have fired off som...That border patrol agent should have fired off some warning shots before using deadly force.The kid looks like he was already trying to get away when he was shot that border patrol agent is a cowardAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5195137745759962560.post-43251245939481561272010-06-12T20:37:57.563-06:002010-06-12T20:37:57.563-06:00KID is a KNOWN CRIMINAL. VIDEO shows the WHOLE sto...KID is a KNOWN CRIMINAL. VIDEO shows the WHOLE story. Lesson: <br />Don't throw rocks at someone with a gun, or they will DEFEND themselves, with what ever they feel necessary. What did you expect? For the BP Agent to throw rocks back? I'm sure some of you out there expect that, but sorry. This is NATIONAL SECURITY. The kid's parents are at fault, and so is the child. HE knew what he was doing. The BP AGENT was obviously defending himself. If this happened more often, and we treated our ILLEGALS like Mexico does, we would have wayyyyy lesssss people ILLEGALLY entering our country.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5195137745759962560.post-52862402540503346662010-06-12T16:46:46.183-06:002010-06-12T16:46:46.183-06:00To those defending the officer: He never felt thre...To those defending the officer: He never felt threatened, he could have retreated if that was the case, I'm sure kids threw stones to the officer but he always moved forward with his hand firm and shooting, adrenaline always takes over and blinds judgement. If stones were so deadly the officers Union would be all over the place advocating helmets and body guards for them. How many officers have died because of stonning? The fact is that most of the people crossing illegally rearly have any weapon or are any threat to the officers, they just want to escape. Just profiling, I'm sure most of these officers are just blind officers of the law and forget in their duties what is to be a man. It is clear the kids crossed illegally but when they saw the officer they tried to return to Mexico, he could have let them go back without any incident; but no, that is not what an officer must do, he has to enforce the law, does not matter if it results in a 14yrs old kid dying because of his lack of judgement. So sad.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5195137745759962560.post-10442309005093064672010-06-12T11:11:58.339-06:002010-06-12T11:11:58.339-06:00A rock is not a bullet. No matter how you apologis...A rock is not a bullet. No matter how you apologists for the BP try to downplay it, that Pendejo over-reacted. <br /><br />Plain and simple.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5195137745759962560.post-16209226722124265192010-06-12T09:26:09.611-06:002010-06-12T09:26:09.611-06:00It's tragic that the situation got to the poin...It's tragic that the situation got to the point it did A life was lost, but these kids were 13-15 yrs where were the parents? Besides it's not like the agent shot at them for no reason a rock can cause alot of damage if it hits the right place.So i say the parents are to blame too for not bothering to check where their kids playAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5195137745759962560.post-39093447775043483772010-06-12T07:43:28.969-06:002010-06-12T07:43:28.969-06:00Posting by Anonymous June 11, 2010, 11:06 PM, You ...Posting by Anonymous June 11, 2010, 11:06 PM, You still don't understand. You don't want to get burned - don't play with fire. You want to be a criminal and use any force against LE, Well LE will accomodate the use of necessary force. The last stupid thing you want to do is pull out a weapon on the police. The mexican kid should of stayed in Mexico. And why should you feel that your life is being threatened by some police brutality. Citizens live entire lives not having any contact with the Police. I take it you are a regular with local LE.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5195137745759962560.post-729081497986344492010-06-12T07:34:38.401-06:002010-06-12T07:34:38.401-06:00For those of you who question the BP Agent's a...For those of you who question the BP Agent's actions. Throwing a rock can kill a person. I wonder how REGINALD DENNING feels about being assaulted with a rock. RD was the tuck driver that was pulled out of his semi truck during the LA Riots and was struck with a brick that MAIMED him for the rest of his life. The person responsible for the assault was given a lengthy prison sentence.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5195137745759962560.post-31340848512902799942010-06-12T02:06:33.416-06:002010-06-12T02:06:33.416-06:00The BP came and they saw him and ran back, except ...The BP came and they saw him and ran back, except for one, who would have if he let him. Ok now if he just chased them back, he did his job. what does it do by catching one? it costs money to process him and wastes how many others time just to send him back.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5195137745759962560.post-56948698837347674142010-06-11T23:13:08.682-06:002010-06-11T23:13:08.682-06:00Now the next time BP agents run into mexican young...Now the next time BP agents run into mexican youngsters tryin to cross the border, instead of throwing rocks they will throw grenades. Hahaha You people defend the agents alot, ok no problem...but the next time I feel my life is being threatened by some police brutality, like the mexican man killed out by san diego even when not resisting, and I pull out a handgun and blast his ass, then let's see if you people will defend me and say the same shit you all are saying about the border patrol and get on the law enforcement like y'all are getting on the mexican kid. Like, oh that's what he gets for fuckin with him. Well I wanna go to my family too fuckers! Its either him or me right? Hahaha yea rightAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5195137745759962560.post-13251053467078358962010-06-11T23:06:07.908-06:002010-06-11T23:06:07.908-06:00Don't bring rocks to a gunfight.Don't bring rocks to a gunfight.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5195137745759962560.post-81229731387175450572010-06-11T22:10:52.817-06:002010-06-11T22:10:52.817-06:00Yea the Bp had a right to protect himself and I wa...Yea the Bp had a right to protect himself and I was agreeing with most of your comments, until I thought of the fourteen year old closest to me, my little cousin. I see him as a baby not bc he's my cousin but because he's still a kid. I think the bp should have those guns that shoot the rubber bullets that are for th most part non deadly. Just a suggestion I know he problably didn't have one on him at the time but to me that would be the best answer to all of this.<br />In the end yes he had a right to protect himself, but he killed a kid, not a young man, a kid. and that's just messed up when u really think about it, fell sorry for that dude he's problably gonna get fired ouch. But more importantly my prayers go out to the family of the young boyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5195137745759962560.post-7670945724967726012010-06-11T21:25:47.228-06:002010-06-11T21:25:47.228-06:00Anonymous 4:19 pm, let me throw a rock at you and ...Anonymous 4:19 pm, let me throw a rock at you and hit you on your head to see what happens. I bet you won't like the results. Now, how the hell can you hit the youth on his head with a baton since the aggressor was in Mexico. And, for a tazer the aggressor wasn't within range! So what next, throw rocks across the border? Absurd because LE aren't trained to repel attacks with rocks. On the contrary, if someone attacks you with deadly force you RESPOND accordingly. So the agent acted correctly and made it home safe to his family. The death of the agressor was tragic, but his parents should have taught him the difference between right and wrong. Crossing the US border illegally is wrong, and to throw rocks at a US Federal Agent wasn't not only wrong but outright malicious!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5195137745759962560.post-20735568746618523402010-06-11T17:59:24.200-06:002010-06-11T17:59:24.200-06:00To many are quick to judge the actions of the agen...To many are quick to judge the actions of the agents. No one seems to know what the word " ILLEGAL " means anymore. It doesn't mean Welcome!!!A rock is a weapon just like anything else. People need to look at the big picture if a simple individual can walk across illegal what's stopping international terrorist from walking across? It's time the government wakes up and realizes we don't need kids graduating high schools and becoming border patrol agents since they hardly have standards anymore. Now a days the only thing you need to become a border patrol agent it two arms, two legs, and a brain that works from time to time. We need the military to step in and take care of this problem.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com