Wednesday, September 9, 2020

The story of the ChicagoTwins who double-crossed El Chapo, plus full "Chapo Trial" testimony of Pedro on audio

Chivis Martinez Borderland Beat  YT audio from Crowned TV Courts

Only one of the Flores twins, the twins who betrayed El Chapo, took the stand in the trial against Chapo Guzman, that was Pedro Flores. Once almost hailed as heroes by the U.S. government and the court for the extensive information forwarded by the twins, now the government is changing their tune saying the twins were deceptive holding back information, especially where their assets are hidden.


 
Back story:

To Pedro Flores, the two men who pulled him over had looked like cops.

But moments later, face down in the back of a windowless van, his hands and feet zip-tied, Flores realized he’d been duped.

At 22, he had been quietly working with his twin brother, Margarito, to create the most successful drug-dealing partnership in Chicago’s history.  Now, hog-tied, his diamond-studded cellphone out of reach, Flores was powerless.

Image of the young twins

All he could do was whisper a prayer.

“Don’t worry,” one of his captors told him. “Once we get the money, we’re going to cut you loose.”

The Flores twins would come to believe a man they thought was their friend, Saul Rodriguez, was behind the kidnapping. They had known Rodriguez for a few years, and at the time of the kidnapping, as Pedro Flores rode to his uncertain fate, they had plans to go with Rodriguez to Las Vegas to see a welterweight title match. Rodriguez arranged the tickets.

The twins and Rodriguez were all big-time drug dealers, but the similarities ended there.

Margarito Flores Sr.
While the twins were loath to resort to violence, Rodriguez reveled in it, according to a Sun-Times review of court records and interviews with law enforcement and underworld figures.

At the time, the kidnapping in September 2003 might have seemed like Rodriguez’s knockout blow to the twins.

But 11 years after Pedro Flores was snatched from an alley behind his family’s Southwest Side home, he and his brother appear to have been playing a longer, smarter game: rope-a-dope.

On Friday when Rodriguez faces sentencing in Chicago for a career of killings, home invasions and drug trafficking, a federal judge will pass final judgment on the twins’ and Rodriguez’s contrasting routes to the top of Chicago’s underworld. [read full article here]

Below recorded call log of the brothers, while cooperating:


Below is a 13-part YouTube video series that presents the testimony of Pedro Flores during the New York City trial of Joaquín “El Chapo” Guzmán.  The audio-videos are from Crowned TV Courts. 

1.  Pedro takes the stand







2.  On the Run




3.  Running into trouble





4. Surviving an "incident”



  

5. Meeting El Chapo for the first time






6. Business after meeting El Chapo and trouble with a shipment



7.  The Flores' Twins father disappears in Sinaloa




8.  The ghost of Lupe Ledezma





9.  Spending 800 million with Chapo and narco subs




10.  Caught in the middle of a cartel beef



11.   Playing both sides...



12.  Recording telephone calls with El Chapo and sons



13.   Attempting to set up el Chapo

81 comments:

  1. F**n RATS. Good riddance!

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    1. They'll be out in a few years and with millions in the bank! I think they played rope a dope with Chapo and won!

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    2. They played Chapo with his own game! The way I look at it they got him before he got them!

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    3. 9:47 they ain't getting they father back

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    4. 11:45 They're criminals! They conspire with other criminals to break laws. That's funny as hell, people expecting greedy, amoral criminals to show loyalty and ride together for life.

      I bet Chapo's friends are having a ball playing hide the salami with Emma.

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    5. You would do the same for your father, Chapo took out their dad.

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    6. 7:37 they cooperated with the entrapment first.

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    7. @4:55 they did not entrap JAGL during these or any conversations as he was already a trafficker moving narcotics on his own account

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  2. Animo Patron Chapo!
    The Flores twins sang more than Tekashi 69.

    Patron We await for you here in La Tuna Badiraguato! Con la camisa bien puesta y con las placas del tomatito (placas de jefes).

    AMLO already knows who are the real bosses of Mexico !

    I know this witch hunt against you will end soon.

    Stay strong Señor !

    New People 006

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    1. Serious question-what’s chapo Guzmán talking about or doing deals of 10-18 kilos doesn’t he have people to make small deals for? Well he is a big time kingpin no? Doesn’t he supposedly move tons of dope? He got busted for making small ass deals? Is this the great Sinaloa cartel?

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    2. CDS GENTE NUEVA = RAPIST

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    3. Are the new people building a tunnel Into super max?

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    4. @chema, While chapo might not be as big as we once thought, the rest of the Sinaloa cartel is massive. There’s tons of guys out there who made or are making billions of dollars quietly without making any noise. Polo Ochoa, Cesar Gastélum, Robachivas, Julian Grimaldi are a few examples of extremely wealthy Sinaloan traffickers that almost no one has heard about without doing extensive research. And those 4 I named are famous enough to have some info/pics of them online (very little though), but I’d be willing to bet there’s a ton more just like them out there we’ll never even hear about

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    5. 3:42 The same reason Mencho kills grandmas and calls local security guards threatening him on phone for voice to be recorded...these guys just want their hands on everything.

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    6. I think he is making heroin deals right? Triple the prize of coke...that’s a lot more money than your thinking pal... 3:42

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    7. @chema. For real tho. Only in corridos is 18,000 tons a day

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    8. AMLO already knows who are the real bosses of Mexico !

      Lol yeah right. The son was released just to save innocent people. But you clearly know he was arrested. Also. Don’t forget the father is in prison. When you come here to make foolish comenta don’t forget how many people Chapo lost. Los Chapitos will get their share once we get a different president.

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    9. Y los calzones bajados

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    10. Chema, this was only one crew remember..Chapos guys were dealing with people like the twins and bigger in every major city in America and world wide. Dont be stupid.

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    11. CDS is made of a lot of families but it was headed by Mayo n chapo, and Azul. But chapo was the general and head cheese when it came to dealing with other bosses. He provided security And made sure all the families stay in line. Whoever he found out was being shady he eliminated. Everyone was scared of him. The sons are following his footsteps. Eliminating anyone who is not inline with them.

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  3. These guys STILL have lots of $$💰💰
    These guys are out AND ABOUT while CHAPO and HIS crew is locked UP..

    Vicentillo (onother snitch) will be OUT NEXT YEAR..

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    1. Chapos crew runs Sinaloa you idiot...his sons literally run the Cartel now. Man where do these bozos come from?

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    2. El Senor will be out enjoying shrimp and beef cuts in Culiacan by Dia De Los Tres Reyes.

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    3. These idiots are from reddit they dont know shut, Most of chapos crew is still out they literally run sinaloa,sonora,chihuahua and tijuana they are out there

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    4. 5:50 THEY ain't running SHIT 😆
      MAYO and CARO are TAKING Sonora PLAZA and fighting THEM in SINALOA..
      Silly boy.. Lol

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    5. 11:10am - The viejos are losing, and are running to the govt to send military back up because they can't handle the heat. Chapitos will soon control Sinaloa all the way up to the border including BC and SONORA

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    6. 11:10 Stop sniffing glue. 🤣Y ou are out of your mind kid..the DEA just made Chapos son Alfredo the most wanted drug trafficker in Mexico other than Rafa and Mencho...Rafa is only on there because of Kiki Camarenas death and his release from prison. Los Chapitos are very very powerful right now dont be stupid you sound like a fool. 🤡😂

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    7. You are the silly boy....Mayo and Caro ain't shutting nothing down. And Chapo's crew is still very much alive and well. And they are working as hard as ever. They oucming their battles. And they are holding their own very well. I always laugh when I see someone like you talking out their back side.

      Silly Rabbit, tricks are for kids

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    8. All those CORRIDOS went to these GROUPIES heads 😆

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  4. Talk about Cartel De Snitches

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  5. There’s some serious weight & situations Pedro is talking about... now just imagine this is only 1 ring among probably dozens... nothing stops the flow of drugs...

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    1. Yeah exactly..the DEA has Chapos crew on tape making deals all over the world especially Los Angeles. Theres guys in LA who worked for Chapo and they are much bigger than the Flores twins. The DEA doesnt just designate you the most wanted Drug pusher in the world for no reason at all...

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    2. Not true, the whales in LA work for Mayo. He literally built that hub from the ground up @4:45

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  6. Flores got scammed numerous times for millions in loans from Chapo's crew: ledemensa after busts in chicago and chapo's submarine ride from colombia to mexico where flores bought 6 million in colombia cocaine that just just just disappeared and flores were told don't ask a date or you can be dead! So, in New York the little snake snake bit the bigger snake! So it goes in the snake world!

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  7. Anybody know the back story of Lupe Ledezma ? How big was he. Any photos ? interesting

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    1. Listen to the court transcript above pendejo...

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  8. Say what you want Chapos talking to his shadow and this guys on the Beach somewhere in South America

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    1. hes in witness protection probably in some shitty apt in pittsburgh...they are not allowed to leave the country dum dum

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  9. Chapo and snitchaloa are the biggest snitches of them all they only survived against the Zetas who were spanking them left and right all across the country thanks to the u.s and mexican government LOL

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    1. It was for the better. Who wants the zetas around?

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    2. Thats a half truth, its true that the Mex and US govt teamed up with Sinaloa to fight the Zetas, but snitching is not accurate. They had a working relation, and when you are that high up on the ladder you don't need to send your own boys to always hunt, you can request your partners (govt) send their ppl (military) All narcos wish they could obtain this status.

      Snitching is you getting caught and did the crime but cant do the time so you pass the buck to get time shaved off.

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    3. @6:42 Z were created by PRI government. Stop talking smack.

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    4. @3:40 yea cuz snitchaloas have never ratted on anyone to save their own asses.... delusional tacuaches I tell you

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    5. 3:40 what about Alfredo ? Chapo snitched on him to get his son out

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  10. Dammm so chapo saved his life and he still ratted on him...what a coward.

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  11. I wasn't betrayal, it was revenge for what Sapo did to their dad.

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    1. They were already snitching.....that's why the dad was killed.

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    2. BTW it was the DEA that strongly warned Flores Sr. to not travel into Mexico. The tribune reported that the father was disgusted by the twins ratting and working as a cooperative. Allegedly he was not speaking to them when he went to Sinaloa and disappeared.

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    3. Thank you Chivis and ElGrandeRojo, I didn't know that.

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    4. Wait one second. So the twins were snitching so it's ok to kill the dad?

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    5. 11:38 what do you think happens in this life. you fuck up and your family pays the price too, and your dog, and your neighbors, and the mail man too.
      better not to get involved if you can't handle it

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    6. 11:38 are you serious? Sinaloa Cartel left a note on his car window saying "Keep your mouths shut or else" and they kept on singing so the father was never heard from again.

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    7. I forget the guys name- but 1 of chapos guys owed the twins 6.6 million- they kidnapped his dad, and (like idiots) said "pay us 6.6 million, and we'll let him go"
      They didnt pay- but they obviously knew who did it

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  12. I grew up with these 2 in Chicagos little village neighborhood, us the Latin Kings gave them protection but they never gang banged , we knew they were heavy back then, they weren't about violence , one time their sister and mom were kidnapped by some kings in the neighborhood , we eventually found out who but they didn't care, they paid 75k and a few kilos of coke to let them free and never retaliated for them it was all about the money. And they were loaded, they used to rent a basketball court in downtown and R Kelly would come play with them. I would have never thought they would turn to rats, i remember when their dad left the neighborhood after they got busted, and they begged him not to go back to Mexico but he did and eventually he was killed out there because they snitched, they'll never be safe and i know the hood would never protect them again, but i knew these fools very well
    OLD SCHOOL LATIN KING

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    1. Kidnappings like that happen all the time in the USA low key, innocent captain America types think it only happens in Mexico.

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    2. Every Sinaloa capo turns snitch when busted.
      It's survival of the fittest.

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    3. Latin kings worse enemy is THEIR gang..
      They constantly backstabbing, WORSE than CDS

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    4. I’m assuming you were also familiar with Cato...?

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    5. They were absolutely about violence. Just didn’t get their hands dirty. Had other people do the dirty work. Killed Cato and took his wife.

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    6. 10:22 the flores twins got Kato Rangel killed over his "stealing 200 pound of cocaine" from them, but all they wanted was Kato's girlfriend, wife, whatever, she is the daughter of a chicago police officer, the other twin's wife too...ass involved in the business is no good.

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    7. 11:35 Cato Kaelin,
      or Kato Rangel?

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    8. @11:35 yeah I knew Kato as well he was a good brother. Definitely baller not like the twins but he had his own thing going, i can speak on this now because its been years , but Kato wasn't jacked by the 4 corner hustlers as it was reported when he was found he had all his jewelry, see kato had rank in the nation he didn't need to ask the twins for a plug he told them he wanted a plug he had his own thing going the twins moved the majority of their stuff through the kings, but kato sold to other gangs , GDs BGDs , vice lords etc. Kato took 100 kilos from someone and they came back hard on him for it , he was set up by his own crew, he never ever went anywhere alone, but he was also respected amongst the other gangs because he was a plug, a business man. His crew set him up for money and told the 4CH where he would be when he was getting his haircut that day they let him get shot, its true as I say it now a Latin Kings worst enemy is another Latin King .
      OLD SCHOOL LATIN KING

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    9. Lol cool story. I don’t know if you noticed. But according to the audios his father is alive and under protection in the US. About the Latin Kings, they are all the same rat trash. This brothers for sure have a stash of money somewhere and they will not longer need the Latin Kings trash protection. Never the less. They hit a lot more fame and money then all the Latin Kings combined. And if they talk to the police it was because the enemy was a real one not like the Latinas Cahavalas de Lating Kong’s. Lol.

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    10. Thanks for the insight 10:22. Have any more stories you can safely share?

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  13. Im guessing they got at least 100 mill- i was already listening to all these- the new orleans 1 is good also

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    1. 11:04 2 billion dollars worth of twins gains, in cash, businesses and properties, they were allowed to keep it all for their cooperation with the chicago federal prostitution

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    2. no they werent- im not sure how much the feds got exactly- but the feds let them "keep" 300k$- also, the twins had to pay for a lot of those loads that got busted. Even that 1 load for pseudo that was 40 million- it was a bust- but they 100% have tons of money the feds dont know about- and im guessing most of those warehouses were in other peoples names etc- good luck coming back to get it- theyll be dead in no time-
      I cant believe theyre OUT ALREADY

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  14. These rats are pieces of shit.. They should have got life...

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  15. Where are the exhibits/pictures??? Link anyone???

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  16. Shorty gon realize short time ain't nothing but a sentence. One yr in is a complete super stack that a supermax can't hold.

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  17. All the hood rats on here are always going on and on about how snitches should die and all that nonsense. The fact is, when you are at the top of the chain snitching is part of the game. Every cartel head gives info to the authorities when they are in power, it's part of how they survive. They trade with the Mexican govt, and when they get extradited, if they are offered a deal, they all take it. Chapo was never offered one, that's why he didn't. Neither was Benjamin Arellano Felix. The only one that comes to mind is Alfredo Beltran Leyva. We'll file him under 'A' for anomaly. Naive little children...

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    1. let me guess. Youre from sinaloa?

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    2. Yea, that may be the snitchaloan way of doing things but there are a lot of independent traffickers that work quietly without snitching. Also, chapo wasn’t offered a deal because of the overwhelming evidence and cooperative witnesses. Not because they knew he’d stay quiet lmao 😂 or respectable one is el Mochomo. Botas blancas went out blasting, not crying on tv like chapo.

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    3. You got that right.

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  18. Awesome content add. Bravo Chivis

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  19. The father is alive. He went to a hideout with millions of dollars.

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  20. A couple of posts about KATO
    http://www.borderlandbeat.com/2018/12/videos-kato-rangel-murder-chicago-latin.html
    http://www.borderlandbeat.com/2018/12/el-chapo-trial-drug-deals-dea-bathroom.html

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