Sunday, July 19, 2015

El Chapo will be extradited to the USA when recaptured

Translated by Otis B Fly-Wheel for Borderland Beat from a Milenio article

[ Subject Matter: El Chapo, extradition
Recommendation: No prior subject matter knowledge required]

The president of the Bicameral (twin house) Commission, Adriana Gomez, said that they had known that since June 2012 the movement sensors at Altiplano had stopped working.


Reporter: Milenio Digital
The extradition process against Joaquin Guzman Loera "El Chapo", has already started, for when he is recaptured he will be immediately extradited to the United States, said Adriana Gonzalez, president of the Bicameral Commission.

"Yes I have personally asked Miguel Angel Osorio chong about the extradition of El Chapo, and he said that the process was started and will continue with the re capture of the criminal, she said in an interview with Ciro Gomez Leyva, for Grupo Formula.

He said that after an investigation they made, they found out that since June of 2012 the motion sensors had malfunctioned.

I asked explicitly when they had malfunctioned, these sensors that detect whichever movement in the cell block. They said to me that in april of 2012 they had started to play up, and in June stopped working altogether.



In an interview with Milenio television, the Senator Fernando Yunes after his meeting yesterday with the Secretary of the Republic, Miguel Angel Osorio Chongo, and the Attorney General Arely Gomez, and the Commissioner, Monte Alejandro Rubio, it was very exhaustive.

The official was very exhaustive and it served to resolve some doubts about what happened on Saturday. The idea stays with me that there has been complicity, but we cannot yet say to what level.

Original article in Spanish at Milenio

81 comments:

  1. Tomorrow's Headline: "El Chapo Will Not Be Extradited to the USA When (if) Recaptured"

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  2. I think the 1 and a half years he was in prison was just a show, I have a feeling he made some sort of deal with the government, to be "imprisoned" for a while to make it seem like the govt are actually trying to lock him up, to combat all the rumors of the govt working with him. Then they let him escape through the tunnel they probably created years ago, since NO ONE in the area saw any type of excavation going on at that ranch he popped up at. And wheres the dozens of truck loads worth of dirt that wouldve been left behind?

    99% sure he will never be arrested again.

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    1. Dozens of truck loads? The hole looks like that it is 2 cubic meters high times 1500 = 3000 cubic meters plus 30% expansion when it is out of the ground. ten wheelers' in mexico hold about ten cubic yards. About 350 truck loads. I think it is a plausible conclusion. Also They would have to start from the bathroom, or have inside info foe engineering purposes.

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    2. Coul`d his lock up also played some other rolles (besides the gov. looking good)?
      Par example; Is it possible that Chapo snitched on rival cartels to decimate their power? Is it possible that he wanted "old" drugstrutures to fall apart and let "new" structures to form (it seems like CJNG has grown much stronger during Chapos imprisonment)?

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    3. The dirt that was excavated was sold. Thats how construction works. And regardless of his size El Chapo was smart no matter how u look at it.

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    4. This sounds like the way they had it planned out. Pretend to catch him the tunnel was made way before and then release him

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    5. Uhmm ok? You do know that ALL around the prison they have been excavating for the last year, putting in new piping for drainage i beleive. I do agree with you that this was a show, but as for all the dirt that you say hasnt been moved theres been dumptrucks movinf dirt in and out all around the prison within the last year.

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    6. Honestly i thought the same thing. I mean come on he was captured in a resort without any men. Its all bullshit

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    7. El Chapo didn't allow himself to be captured or make any kind of deal with the government to allow him to be imprisoned for any length of time. Just look at the way they humilated him when he was captured, theres no way a man of his arrogance would allow himslef to be paraded in front of cameras being treated like a dog on a chain. IMO, he became to well known and the public face for the war on drugs. Just like Pablo he became too big for his britches. I do believe he had inside help escaping but it didn't rise to the level of EPN. Chapo was EPN's greatest triumph in the war against the cartels and now has become his greatest embarrassment. El Chapo's escape will mean more instability and more needless deaths in their efforts to recapture him. It's the last thing EPN wanted, the rest of Mexico is a different story. I'm sure many people throughout Mexico were happy to hear of his escape.

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    8. i hope he does not get captured

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  3. IF HE IS RECAPTURED.....

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    1. 6:30. Agreed.media is saying he had 19mins.to escape. B.S. Just shows with alot of money,escape is a sure thing! In the USA cooperating and 40 Million....can get you 15 years. It's all a joke.jaja.

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    2. Your damn right on that!! It's proven look at osiel Cardenas and his damn nephew!! Now imagine chapo with all that money!! One other thing I have on my mind is how he escaped only AFTER all his enemies are locked up already like Trevinos bro, el H, el viceroy, not to mention la tuta, that chump Arellano Felix.. Nobody really stands in his way so corruption in the government yea maybe not EPN but someone up there..?? Most definitely!!!

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  4. He never going back alive. They kill him

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  5. If they cant recapture Caro Quintero, i really dont even think Mexico is looking for Quintero anymore, they sure as hell wont find Chapo.

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  6. This man will never be caught again now that he knows he wont stay in mexico he long gone focus on someone else bro u all fucked up u all had him but he worth to much to mexico he will never set foot in the usa he knows too much about EPN its the same thing that happend with caro when will the us goverment learn mexico is mexico and they will never give up caro nor chapo end of store go get el mencho or those new people these people own the goverment chapo and caro shit about to hit the fan

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  7. keep dreaming cause he's never getting recaptured lmfao......

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  8. This cannot be accurate. There is a process, it must be presented to a provisional judge to determine if there is enough evidence for the provisional trial to proceed. this process takes 6 months. the entire process with appeals etc is 1-3 years.

    As of Friday the formal request had not even been presented to a judge.

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    1. Let it be known that chapo guzman, has been charged with terrorist acts against american interest and government officials, therefore he is eligible for extradition under the "Patriot act " same act that allowed USA armed forces to extract hostile terrorist aka osama binladen, by force or political mean..PS mexican oil is up for sale to the highest bidder please inquire at office in Los pinos......sincerely your king and Aztec ruler. --" ENRIQUE peña nieto --" corruption and violence since 1911..

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    2. That punk AS$
      Owes chivas an apology!
      "Trollita"

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    3. jajaja...well now I did not expect the love, 7 comments coming in slamming this willis for calling me a dumbass? Its ok, A) I have been called worse, B) I consider the source,

      In Extradition and legal processes that involve neighboring nations Mexico at least gives the illusion of following the process. They are not going to violate Joaquin Guzman's due process. Because of an array of reasons.

      I took the dumbass down....Paz, Dumbass

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    4. that's right chivis. they will trample on due process any ol time, except when using the "neighboring" nation rules. they may draaaaaaaaaag the process it out but not undercut.

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    5. HI Chivis, nice to read your posts, hope you are well.

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  9. El Chapo will not be recaptured, he is protected by a 300 man army all ex special forces and mercernaries fully armed .He is working with los Senores El Mayo,Caro Quintero,and El Mencho .

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    1. De cual fumas para que pases un toque..decirle señor y ponerlo junto con el Mayo y el # 1...no seas mencho por no decirte pe$%&o..
      Y arriba el señor de las montañas y todo triángulo dorado...

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    2. Where was his 300 man army the first time they caught him?

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    3. It was a negotiated arrest .notice all his adversaries were captured ...z40 z42 H beltran el inge..zetas beltranes juarez leadership then he escaped....el Patron Chapo es pura mente inteligente
      atte El Servicio Secreto del Chapo Guzman

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    4. Holding the camera and putting cuffs on him ??

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  10. Proceso are carrying the story too, its not just milenio

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  11. “If” Chapo is recaptured and he is extradited to the USA I can assure you that Miguel Angel Osorio Chong or anyone responsible for his extradition will be assassinated. I will also predict that if he is extradited that all kinds of violence against the Mexican Government on all levels will break out like nothing ever seen before. There will be a lot of blood in the streets and chaos will take hold for a while. This will be the greatest political disaster in Mexico’s history.

    If Chapo is sent to the USA, there will also be retaliation on the US side like never before. I predict Chapos men will start systematically killing people and causing problems just as a show of respect for Chapo as well as it will turn into an anti government movement and be hijacked by others who have needed a reason to riot and cause trouble. It won’t be good at all!

    We had better hope that Chapo simply remains hidden deep inside the sierra of Durango and fades into folklore history never to be captured or killed but dies of old age happy in his sleep. After all even killing him will not stop the flow of drugs or the work of his empire.

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  12. He'll be transferred to San Fransico's custody, serve a few months for drug charges, then released to the sanctuary full of unarmed civilians

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  13. Que pena, they make themselfs look worst.... Mexico is embarrassing.. They support all that violence and corruption, its there business

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  14. I dont even think it was him in jail all this time. He went in, signdd the forms, took the mug shot and calmly exited the premises of Altiplano y les metio el dedo por el ano!

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  15. He is in Guatamala by now

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  16. Thats a great idea maybe they can put him in the same cell with sasquatch or chupacabra or maybe even Elvis the list goes on.......

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  17. He'll never be taken alive . If Mexico was serious about extraditing him they could of done it immediately after his arrest.

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  18. Next time the group lucky enough to find him will kill him. He's not the fucking folk hero narcorridos make him out to be but seems to have as much juice as any gangster in history. Live by the sword and you shall die by that bitch too.

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  19. Did you know they switched the normal guards that night with office staff for them to fall as patsies? The corruption went all the way up. No coincidence.

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    1. Who says that the guards were replacements?
      Because I do not doubt it, just for confirmation...
      --La puta tuta is said to have said he has aids por pendejo, but you need doctors to say and confirm it is so...Ora nadie lo va a querer en la carcel, pobre puta tuta...

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  20. Headlines the next weekend: "El Chapo Will Not Be Extradited to the USA"

    :-)

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    1. No one used the word conspiracy, as in between Mexico and US for info from El Chapo. US gun walked a couple thousand weapons in FAST N' FURIOUS plan into Mexico to cartels. Why not this. US PREZ BO would broker a deal for info. GUNS FOR INTEL was just one plan. This one tops it. White House needs disinfecting.

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  21. El chapo got the minions hiding him.. They will never find him again.

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  22. Ivan Archivaldo tiene comprada la policia municipal por casi 2 años, ahora ustedes creen que el gobierno estatal de Sinaloa no sabe de eso. Gobierno es igual que un malandrin, hasta peor. Lo que pasa es que mucha gente que usa estos blogs, especialmente los que viven en US estan muy joven y ingenuos y no saben lo que en realidad pasa.

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  23. Thats one thing the US will never have chapo on any of its prisons. We all know and they know it.

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  24. Mr guzman is in LA Sierra already giving orders, and is protected my hundreds of gunmen. There is no way anyone will arrest him. La DEA se la pela..- el morroñis de la palma navolato, sinaloa

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  25. Is there something going down in RGV? 60-100 state troopers all headed south on 281.

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  26. a big problem in Mexico, in general, is crappy maintenance. there is little or no payoff in maintenance, only in building. when one government builds something, the following governments let them rot and instead build new stuff. everything, everywhere deteriorates. everything rots in Mexico. nothing is taken care of because there are no kickbacks and payoffs with mainteance.

    for example, in the area around nuevo vallarta the past president of the municipio "rata" cervantes stole concrete, rebar and many other materials, along with ayuntamiento labor to build private property, ranchos and roads for himself. he did this with tax money and fraudulent loans, and by not paying bills for material charged to providers. all of the public works in the municipio were undercut with kickbacks and roads and other works were left incomplete or broke down soon after the work.

    SO, if the security system in the prison broke down it would not be fixed because there would be no money... all the money would have been plundered under other uses, mostly capital improvements or equipment like buying a fleet of vehicles. government vehicles remain on station because officials and workers steal the gasoline. cops can't patrol because their tanks are empty.

    then there is the problem of initiative. with an authoriatarian approach to everything in mexico the drive to do anything comes from externals, from above. it no one says, "fix the cameras", the lazy guards or workers will sit on their asses and say nothing... waiting for some jefe to tell them what to do. but since the jefes are all looking for ways to rob the system there is no initiative to fix anything. Mexicans are famous for their apathy.

    Mexico is following the path of the fucked up countries of Africa.

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    1. 2:02, yeah, mexico is getting recolonized, like africa, russia and LatinAmerica, and Cuba, just wait and see, them there Cubans are "planning to blow another US ship" to get it started again, now that we are friends again...

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  27. How many of you do not realize that the Mexican government will say anything to anybody just so that they can be left alone to carry on with their day to day bullshit.. come on now

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    1. And most importantly to continue to receive free money from North! (Merida)

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    2. Before mexico receives any money from the "north" it has been cut and split with the lobby that got it on the first place, with the mexican drug lords politician bosses putting their part in the bank for retirement purposes...whatever trickles down to operations is used to keep the indians in line...peaceful and singing on the plantation...

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  28. He will never be taken alive again.

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    1. that's good, we don't want him alive or any of his scum cockroach fucking family.

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  29. Terrorism definition:
    Any ideology that threatens Americas capitalist system and its 1%! Drug trafficking does not threaten the Capitalist system and in reality is a part of it! It keeps the millions of underclass employed and drug stupid and stimulates the greater economy. Drug traffickers need all different kind of widgets and tools and labour to make tunnels and safe compartments in vehicles etc etc...You in the know understand the economic stimulas of drugs in America!
    For that reason the War on Drugs is a scam and the Gvt will never end it!
    As long as the Mexican elites/gvt murder communists and brutally suppress the masses of mexico who seek a better life, who are being robbed and raped and destroyed by the Mexican 1% elites, they can rob, drug deal and murder forever!
    Drugs are a tool by the Capitalist/1% to keep the underclass marginalized, political retards!
    The Capitalist/1% worst nightmare is the billions of poor find a unified voice and weapons and a burning desire to no more be marginalized!

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    1. Your the retard for not standing up against your Dear Mexico and taking up the fight. You ran like a coward keyboard commando. Return to Mexico and fight.

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    2. 4:58 yeah, I see you on your soapbox in the middle of the plaza, "anonymous"...
      --Maybe if you would find some enemies on the other side instead of on BB you could get sompim' started, maybe... need some glasses?

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  30. the sinaloense boss is not getting capture alive i been following el chapos guzman storys all the way here in russia we know those sinaloense have huevos de toro like they said in mexico se van a kedar con las ganas los estadonidense sorry for my spanish

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    1. 3:55 This is the PITS, a Russian writing in spanglish and apologizing for it...
      Hey give our regards to Eddie and buy him a Russian beer and a shot of mexican tequila con Sal y limon, And stay away from those hairy unshaven big fat russian nimphets, they get heavier and hairier and bearded like russian bears...uuuuuuh!!!
      And keep writing...

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  31. These motherfuckers are just grandstanding for maybe they get chosen to be president next, soon as peña nieto dies or is done by cancer or time...
    --they will keep up with their very 'exhaustive meetings' until they say "ya me canse " tambien...

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    1. It's already a smooth transition - pendejo.

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  32. CHAPITA WILL BE DEAD BEFORE THE END OF SUMMER 2015
    ATT:Z40

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    1. Chapita was dead for a few years in Puente Grande, but nothing changed...
      And chapita was dead for 1.5 year in almoloya, while nothing changed...
      --Now we hope it all gets worse, if for a change, and something changed, the military are murdering children now, in glorious daylight because "el chapo escaped"...

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  33. Osario Chong said "NO!" Loud and clear to US offers of "assistance to help recapture Guzman"

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  34. They will fake his death in a confrontation with federales ....end of story ..chapo lives happily ever after

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  35. If there is a person out there that did not expect this decision to come down the pike, you should have. This is his punishment. Also the decision the US will not be helping will go out the door as well. It will take a bit, but he will be caught or killed. His escape wasn.t the great escape the media made it out to be. Any prisoner can escape if everyone turns a blind eye and allow you to do it. When you have weak security guards being threatened they will give you what you want. The US will be different. He will not have access to his money as it is considered financial gain through crimes. He will have to be appointed an attorney because his assets will not be available. This will prevent any outside contact with his cartel. Stay hiding, no chance to weasel your way out if sent to the US. Especially since it is known that is all he does is plot escaping. Mexico let this happen. It is so obvious many was involved. Everyone cheering like it was a one man plan. Whatever! Half of those cheering will be the victims next month. Just stupid.

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  36. Such an up roar for a poor farmer named Chapo, LMAO Trust me on this one, no matter what the governments say publicly, they want Chaop back in charge. They like organized crime that they can cut deals with and control by having working agreements.

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  37. Z42 suegro was caught
    thttp://www.jornada.unam.mx/ultimas/2015/07/17/suegro-de-omar-trevino-el-z-42-fue-detenido-en-hotel-de-cancun-2017.html

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  38. Chapo is in another country like Columbia or Argentina already making love to El Mayo! They are never going to find the two sob's!

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  39. How is Chapo going to sign his appeal if his on the run?

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  40. dead or alive DEA would have it no other way

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  41. Of course the 1.5 years in jail was for show, but a lot more was accomplished within that span. All competitors with the exception of Mencho have either been captured or killed. Fausto Isidro Meza Flores is also not to be heard of. Seems like a well planned move to be in the safest of locations and use legit muscle to do your dirty work

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    1. That 1 is brilliant! Makes sense.Makes El Presidente look good taking down various Capos wheras Chapo safe and enemies eliminated and all ready to operate again and make more $ for the politicos.

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  42. Blah blah blah

    Blah blah

    Blah

    Not to be extradited to the US in 300 years.

    Blah blah

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  43. It's going to be a long thirty year wait.

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    1. How's that about 'sick-ops', el chapo rules:
      "Aqui estuvo El Chapo" will somebody make a poster and hang it on his cell?
      --There may be some tourism flushed to Almoloya, what with a trip on chapo's bike in the tunnel, china may be making towels and Nikes and reeboks for souvenirs...
      The end of disneyland...

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  44. The US should go ahead and try to recapture that rat bastard without the Mexican governments approval as they did with Bin Laden. Pakistan had no idea a raid was going on supposedly. The Mexican government needs an overhaul. EPN is a short crooked criminal for a president!!

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  45. The US should take Chapo out like Osama bin laden.Mexico is without hope.The honest good people like Dr Mierles get locked up while the people do nothing but take it up the a#s..You get what you deserve.

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  46. Chapo is long gone. He isn't in Mexico lol

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  47. Put a bullet on his noggin next time.

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  48. Will this be the last time el chapo is capture? What would happen to the rest of his money

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