Saturday, December 28, 2013

Teen Sicario "El Ponchis" said Back in Mexico

Chivis Martínez for Borderland Beat
Ponchis at the time of his arrest
After spending a month in the United States, “EL Ponchis” the notorious teen sicario is back in Mexico.
Diario Morelos is reporting that after leaving Centre custodial Measures for Implementation of Freedom for Teenagers (CEMPLA) last November 26, Edgar, alias "El Ponchis", decided to return to his family in  the state of Morelos, to continue his life at his home in Tejalpa
The newspaper reports; “Ponchis spent his first Christmas with his mother and her family in San Diego California, United States.”  While it may be true that he was in San Diego, which is where he was always targeted to be sent, it was not to visit his mother.  His mother was deported after serving her prison sentence and her whereabouts are unknown. 
Ponchis with his beloved grandmother and siblings.  Grandmother adopted all of the children.
 Ponchis did well under her care but when she died of cancer he was left without guidance
 at the age of 11, the age when he confesses to have made his first killing.
Ponchis does have an uncle who lives in Fontana, California in the county of San Bernardino, but the uncle who has become an US citizen, has no criminal history and has led an exemplary life, unlike his brother, the father of Ponchis.  Because of this difference in lifestyle, the brothers have been estranged for many years and Ponchis does not have a relationship with his uncle.
The newpaper is reporting that Ponchis has decided to start a new way of living, away from organized crime and according to police authorities in Cuernavaca, since December 25th has been seen around Tejalpa village streets.
Ponchis has dual citizenship; he was born in San Diego (National City) and was adopted by his grandmother in Mexico thereby granting him a Mexican citizenship.  He is free to travel in either country.
(Photo below is Ponchis father David after returning to Mexico, he also was deported after serving his prison sentence for drug conviction)
When Ponchis was released in Mexico, false information of his transfer to San Antonio spread on both sides of the border, based on one Mexican official in the state of Morelos.  He then corrected his statement, but by then it was reported as fact.
If he has in fact retuned to Mexico, that would be a surprising turn of events.  At 17 he is still a minor, and would be a ward of the court resulting in placement in a group home or foster care.. 
 
After his 18th birthday he most likely would benefit from the California law initiated in 2012, that provides resources for children in transition from being a ward of the court, proving housing, education, counseling and other resources until he reaches his 21st birthday.

43 comments:

  1. That fuckers getting wacked green light sos aka shoot on sight atte el californiano

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    1. Only a chilanguillo would nickname himself,"el Californiano"...Menso,haha.

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  2. sweet little boy,
    Mexico please protect him
    he is not adult yet

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  3. Poor kid is gona be dead soon

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    1. The sooner the better.

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  4. Hopefuly this piece of shit gets popped soon.. I'm willing to bet he'll return to his old ways

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  5. He'll wind up dead its only a matter of time now.

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    1. Good, I hope they make his little ass suffer the most horrible death.

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  6. Very likely he would be in a video getting his head cut off,many murderers want him.

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  7. He dead meat, he know 2 much, he snitched. He fool for returning to narcoland.

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  8. Poor kid he is a moving target in Methsico, he'll get hung and whacked like a Diego pinata if not worse. Stay in 'murica u fool!

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  9. It's only matter of time before this young man returns to a life a crime. He has no direction and no govt. agency that could provide assistance or rehabilitate him out of a life of crime. Before long we will hear that he got killed, arrested, or missing, after being killed and buried in a narco fosa. Unfortunately for Ponchos, that is the destino that awaits this illiterate youth with a serial killer past in Mexico.

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  10. Either hell wind up dead or he will begin his killing again

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  11. I glad he not incarcerated. He'll be dead soon you can bet a cartel going to want payback. He would only go back to how he used to be anyway.

    Hope you feel the pain that you made others feel you little s**t!

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  12. He probably didnt want to stay in texas cause he commit those kind of crimes there off to huntsville he go!! He wouldnt have to worry about a rival then.the state of texas would have taken care of his punkass then!!

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  13. It is truly sad to see such a sweet looking little boy can grow up to do such evil things. Unfortunately, he is past the point of no return.

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  14. Hi Chivis, thanks for the update!
    Do you know any details of the rehabilitation Ponchis went through in prison? I just saw a great movie called City Of God about young slum thugs in Rio De Janeiro, and got thinking a lot about the idea of youth corruption and the feasibility of re-adaptation. I've usually been a proponent of the idea that nature/genetics plays a significant role in kids' predispositions toward crime, as opposed to only the way they were raised (I know that not a single person in Mexico would agree with me on that). But this movie emphasized how big a role kids' peers can play in sending them down the wrong path, and that kids who might otherwise be completely normal can be 'conditioned' to consider murder fair game. So it made me curious about how effective rehab for murderers can be, especially kids.
    Any info on Ponchis' rehab would be cool, and I'm also interested in any perspective you have from your work in Latin America on corruptibility, nature vs nurture etc.

    Regards,
    Feynman

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  15. SAD.QUE TRISTEZA.

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  16. Hi Ponchis, will you be writing to negro radilla? Maybe you can visit him now that you are in Mexico.

    Exiliado

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  17. Why would he even come back.

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  18. El ponchis es un buen ciudadano y un ejemplo por que ya no quiere volver a cometer mas crimenes por eso me da gusto que las autoridades mexicanas le den otra opurtunidad .

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  19. I'm curious why he would return to Mexico..? Isn't it dangerous for him there?

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    1. @ 8:02, 8:41 & 9:24

      This f#$ken muskrat went back to continue working as a sicario. Why would else would you go back being that he has the chance to start his lifE over in the U.S. of A

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    2. Its a shitty life being ward of the state,this kid is smarter than that..he would rather be free then locked up like an animal,there is a lot of difference between mex and us,one of them is the freedom people have..

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  20. No word on charges of corruption of a minor being worked on by Mexican law enforcement?
    Corruptors of minors need the death penalty...

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  21. Feyman..
    It is an impossible question to answer in this small space. BUT, I will say I have worked side by side with "psychologists" in Mexico and was taken aback at what is considered certified psychologist in Mexico. There is no degree required or internship as is structured in the US for a PHD, no boards, nothing. Just teachers, who BTW do not have to be certified to teach, but they go to government sponsored workshops.

    They do have medical doctors of course that are psychiatrists. But those are usually heads of large facilities or departments of medical centers.

    And I will give you an example of a case I funded of a 10 year old suicidal child. She was in numbing grief after losing her best friend and cousin who was 3 months younger than her. They were glued at the hip. I took her to one therapist who feel asleep TWICE in therapy. Then to a shrink who advised "allow the natural grieving process for a year and then we can treat" she attempted suicide. and this was a MD.

    for Ponchis. he was "assessed" by either a shrink or psychologist, but not treated in the traditional way as we know treatment to be. Mexico does not spend money on: troubled kids, kids traumatized by the drugwar, impoverished kids, and marginalized groups of children such as found in indigenous communities.

    I do not think Ponchis can be saved. especially since he is not receiving help. actually the best thing would have been that he stay in the US to get the help, helping him helps humanity.

    But my heart strings are tugged at by the fotos of him as a toddler. He had no chance, he was born addicted to cocaine, placed in foster care, adopted by the one positive force in his life...his grandmother, who then dies a couple of years later. He was then on the streets.

    What you say about genetic component I believe has validity. Though I think environment, and medical treatment can supersede that. But Once unleashed it is just about impossible to put the genie back in the bottle.

    what bothers me mostly and is so telling is Ponchis saying after the first two he killed just to kill, without orders to kill. An example riding in a taxis and deciding to kill the driver.

    That is the genie that exploded from the bottle IMO.
    Paz

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  22. Word here in san diego, he's green litt by Logan rs, he's dead if he is found...

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  23. Chivis I agree that their is no hope for this kid. my opinion Even with the professional help of a real phsychologist he couldn't get help. He has lost his humanity. His innocents. The only thing to help him would be a life altering event. Like a brush with death, birth of a child, you get the point. THen he must decide for himself that what he did was wrong. Just because someone else tells him he was wrong doesn't matter. Lets not forget that most true phychologist are just people who went to school and learned from a book. This doesn't teach them life skills, nor does it mean they will be successful at helping others. I personally hold no value to anyone callling themselves a psychologist. I think that there are people out their who have a natural ability to help others. Just as their are people who are natural speakers, writers, artist.... This people could be anyone from an uncle, priest, even a homeless person. You never know who will be able to reach out to others and actually help.
    I feel as if he is to dangerous to be on the loose again for the sake of other innocent people who may find the misfortune of crossing paths with him. Everyone naturally knows that a life is precious. But just as any other sin once you cross that line it is hard to get back.

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  24. chivis please delete last comment about hanging, beating and decapitating. It was not sent by me. thank you.

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  25. I find nauseating to think of human corpses, playing with them even worse,but as I understand there are those that fall into it and become addicted,to the point of no return.
    When somebody corrupts a minor into that especial vice,or any vice,they should pay with their lives,just like el negro radilla initiated el ponchis,el ponchis went to murdering on his own,taking a few disciples on to spread their art,and they are there,hiding,reproducing and replicating each other,free and on the prowl...
    And coming to the US!!!

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  26. Can't wait to see this one on youtube. Little fucker will get what he deserves.

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  27. Would be glad to see you dead, you fucking son-of-a-bitch killer.

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  28. This rat fuck should die.

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    1. He is still a f*ing mocoso, id smack his ass anyday

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  29. I notice this comment string has only either comments like Feynman's and Chivis', or "hpoe this littel sh* get rape in prson" comments.

    Chivis, that's pretty interesting that there's so little actual rehabilitation done in prisons. This sounds like a "get him out of here as soon as the judge says we can" situation rather than a "he's fit to return to society" situation.

    Feynman, City of God is a great movie for stimulating thought about young hoodlums. I agree that the genetic component of how a kid turns out (especially as an adult) is generally overlooked, especially by the gossiping mothers of the community who want to exclusively blame the kids' parents. Since the 'nurture' side is the only thing we can really tackle in our society though, do you believe in eugenics? As in, the government's preventing people like repeat sex offenders from having children? (this would obviously never fly in ANY country, much less an 'honour-by-offspring-number' country like Mexico).

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  30. Honestly by ponchis going back Mexico he's gonna end up N a you tube video :) this guy bullshitD the media pretty good making people's feel sorry 4 his ass

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  31. Euthanasia is what this little prick needs.

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  32. Mochenle el buche al puto

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  33. Its very hard to look at his childhood pictures and imagine what such a sweet innocent face became, but i guess at some point they all were innocent. Thanks for the story chivis. ... El Paso Ro

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  34. Chivaaa! Not to scare you,but to help you see the result of mental rehabilitation in Latin-America, see: Pedro Alonso Lopez,el monstruo de los Andes,350 young girls,raped and murdered...

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  35. Does anyone know what happened to him? Is he still alive?

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