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Monday, October 7, 2013

Indigenous woman gives birth on the hospital's lawn

El Diario (10-4-13) By Staff -Proceso (10-5-13) By Pedro Matias

Translated by un vato for Borderland Beat

 This story appeared in several Mexican news media on October 4. Although it has been posted in the Borderland Beat Forum by "Aquiniga", I felt it deserved a more detailed translation. Also, I decided to post the two versions that have appeared in several journals because they give slightly different accounts of this shameful incident. I want to make it clear that there is nothing shameful on the mother's part. What is shameful is how she was treated simply because she is Mazateca.

El Diario version: "Indigenous woman from Oaxaca gives birth on the hospital's yard because they would not admit her."

Oaxaca-- A woman went to seek help at the Health Center at the Jalapa de Diaz Municipality, however, she did not get the help she needed to give birth, and, for that reason, was forced to deliver her baby in the courtyard of the medical institution.

The events took place on October 2, and, according to witness statements, the woman, who was of Mazateco ethnicity, arrived at the clinic at noon and for two hours requested help so that she could give birth under optimal conditions. However, personnel at the clinic, which is managed by Dr. Adrian Rene Cruz Cabrera, ignored the woman, who began labor on the patio.

The Jalapa de Diaz Municipal President, Silvia Flores Pena, confirmed the conditions under which the woman gave birth and said the mother as well as the baby were in good health. Flores Pena also said that she was not present in the municipality when the events took place and therefore did not know the name of the mother or the place she was transferred to. However, she said that as soon as she became aware of the incident, she sought medical help for the woman and her child.

The (Municipal) president also said that this is not the first time that medical services have refused to assist women in labor; there was a similar incident a month and a half before, and she explained that the Health Center is undergoing a work stoppage for political reasons, that she has submitted the appropriate complaint to the Tuxtepec Sanitary Jurisdiction but has not gotten an answer. For this reason, she will take the report before the Oaxaca  Health Secretariat, headed by German Tenorio.

The Deputy Secretary of Health in Oaxaca, Maurilio Mayoral, claims that accidental birth is a constant fact in medicine and the problem must have been that the woman was turned away, which is why he would investigate the incident to know what happened.

In July, employees with Section 35 of the National Syndicate of Health Secretariat Workers engaged in graduated (work) stoppages demanding relocation of work areas in the Tuxtepec region. In August, the management of the union changed in the state and there was a proposal to lift the work stoppages, but the stoppages continued.  

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Proceso
OAXACA, Oax. (apro).- With labor pains upon her, Irma arrived at the Jalapa de Diaz Health Center when it was still dark, accompanied by her husband. The clinic was undergoing a partial work stoppage, so she told the few employees working there that she was about to give birth. She had had contractions for several hour and she was fully dilated.

The doctors asked her a few questions but did not attend her. Afterwards, they would argue that, because the Mazatec Indian woman 's Spanish was not perfect, they could not understand her. Or that, since she had been attended by midwives during her pregnancy, they did not understand clearly what was happening. For whatever reason, they decided they could not understand her and ignored the obvious: the woman needed help.

Irma Lopez Aurelio waited for two more hours. She tried to get help from nurses and administrative personnel, but nobody would admit her.

This is why, at dawn this past Wednesday, when the sun had just come up, she went to the health center's garden and there, without any help, she gave birth to a baby that weighed 5.5 lbs.

Only then did they help them.

The controversy

A citizen who was there took a photograph of what was happening, right after the delivery. The woman is seen squatting, and the baby on the grass, still attached by its umbilical cord.

In his Facebook page, Eloy Pacheco Lopez explained: "After waiting and asking for help for two hours she gave birth in the yard of the hospital after she was ignored by personnel working under the alleged doctor Adrian Rene Cruz Cabrera" (sic).

The image was taken up by Portal Ruta 35 and began to get disseminated on Twitter, where comments multiplied, criticizing the conduct of the hospital's medical personnel and that of Health Secretary German Tenorio Vasconcelos.

The state government issued a bulletin in response in which it points out that it ordered "an impartial and thorough investigation of the medical personnel in the Jalapa de Diaz Health Center to determine responsibility for the alleged medical negligence in the treatment of Mrs. Irma Lopez Aurelio, who gave birth at dawn on Wednesday, October 3".

However, the Secretary of Health tried to shift the spotlight elsewhere. The government's statement says: "I find it reprehensible that this unfortunate incident was used for morbid purposes throughout the social networks, injuring the image of the woman and her child and second, affecting the image of health workers."

The official's irritation grew because the cybernaut who uploaded the photograph had added to his post the following: "POLL: Do you think the government of CHANGE is living up to its promise to improve Oaxaca's health system?" (sic)

The responses to the question were overwhelmingly against the government.
Maybe yes, maybe no
Employees who have worked at the Rural Health Center "C" in the municipality (county) have told of the shortages, material and human, with which they are supposed to provide (medical) care to women who go there to give birth.

In the case of the rural clinic, it does not have enough childbirth rooms, and there are frequent shortages of medications such as oxitocin, a medication used to trigger or accelerate uterine contractions.

Contradicting this information, the Secretary of Health stated, via a communication, that the woman showed up at the Jalapa de Diaz Health Center with a full term birth and advanced dilation, which caused the baby's expulsion before medical personnel admitted her to the medical installation to receive care. 

He said that the incident took place "at dawn this past Wednesday, October 3" and not at noon as stated by the Facebook user. The problem is that October 3 was a Thursday.

"The advanced stage of the woman's labor, in addition to the lack of night personnel in the Jalapa de Diaz Health Center, resulted in the woman giving birth under inadequate conditions."

He explained that according to the Jalapa de Diaz Health Center personnel working that shift, early on Wednesday morning the woman, accompanied by her husband, went to that medical unit for medical attention, for which she received detailed instructions on how to prepare herself for childbirth, insofar as she evidenced a very advanced stage of labor.

"Unfortunately, the woman, in desperation, decided to go out to the rear of that space, where her son was finally born, showing good health and registering a weight of 2 kilos 400 grams (approx. 5.5 lbs) and a length of 48 centimeters (about 19 in.).   

In the meantime, he stated that the newborn child and his mother were provided immediate attention. The baby was given his vaccines and neonatal procedures, while the mother received appropriate treatment.

Subsequently, in an interview with Milenio Television, he insisted that the center's staff told her to wait "outside while they got the services ready", which is when she went to the rear of the place, but "when they went out to look for her, they couldn't find her".

The woman "has problems understanding Spanish", but "none of that is an excuse", he admitted, "even if it were the most remote areas of the country, like the Mazatec Mountains." 

Questioned about the alleged work stoppage at the center, he admitted that there is some suspension of activities in some of the units, but he emphasized that the union has been "very responsible" in closing only administrative offices and "by no means" denying (medical) care to the citizenry.
Jalapa de Diaz is situated adjacent to a lone highway and
 many miles from other cities [click on image to enlarge]
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Other investigations

The National Human Rights Commission (CNDH) initiated a complaint for the alleged violation of the Mazatec woman's human rights.

The organization indicated that adjunct investigators (visitadores)  went to the location to interview the wronged party and her family members, in addition to requesting information from the (government) agency involved in this matter in order to compile evidence and put together a file.

"The CNDH has repeatedly stated that the right to protect health is a basic right for persons who belong to an indigenous group, and particularly for pregnant women," states the text.

The Oaxaca Human Rights Commission, in turn, initiated its own complaint to investigate whether there was negligence in the case and requested information from the state's Health Secretariat, according to EFE news agency.

The director of that organization, Bernabe Hernandez, announced that Commission personnel will travel tomorrow to that area, which is located seven hours from the state capital, to locate the woman and obtain her version, as well as the testimony of persons who witnessed the event.

78 comments:

  1. This is the only time i would approve of a death squad going into that hospital ward and executing everyone of those monsters working there, not helping a pregnant women begging you for help who cares if she spoke bad Spanish your eyes can tell that she needs help

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  2. I love when Mexicans protest in the USA about being here illegal and free health care and education when Mexico treats immigrants and indigenous people a whole lot worse. They call us racist when truly they are just a bunch of hypocritical no good freeloaders.

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    1. You are an idiot,and give Americans a bad name.Go back to watching Duck Dynasty.

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    2. Mexican citizens are protesting about this situation, and you are an ignorant racist pig for calling all mexicans freeloaders.

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    3. Please people be civil,while racist pig will not be going to heaven with the lord,for badmouthing the freeloaders,when his own son was one of us,the duck dynasty does not use slave labor,they love each other,they stand up for their rights,I have seen them out at night,and they don't wear bedspreads or blankets to fuck around with nobody,and the main thing,they won't shave for their pretty wives,like real men you know?so Yank someone else 's chain

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    4. verb (used without object) Informal.
      1.
      to take advantage of others for free food, entertainment, etc.

      verb (used with object)
      2.
      to get by freeloading: He freeloaded several meals a week.

      Not just the Mexicans its all races. The problems is we need to get rid of welfare and all of the Gov.crap and force people to take on responsibility and be productive and not lazy.

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  3. Estas son mamadas! Al fin del dias siempre hay alguien que tomo la decision de negarle servicio medico a esa mujer. Solo hay que encontrarlo

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    1. The hospital personnel says it was"too early before sunrise"but the motherfucking sun is shining on the whole scene,all of them fucking workers could have let her use a bed,just for comfort,but even the lowest motherfucker in Mexico believes they are all that because they work for the government,truth is union rights do not exist for government workers like these,in the us it would be a big fat lawsuit,in north Korea a bullet to the head let's see what the fucking Mexican government does with these motherfuckers.it shows how corruption totally works,from the top all the way to the bottom,now the presidente will send the gafes to silence this new mother, they thought the Indians were gone damnit!!!!

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  4. Wtf does this have to do with borderland?? lol.

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    1. @11:19 a.m u are seriously stupid!! At least it aint a decap video which is probably what your dumbass was looking for! Meanwhile a first year paramedic could have figured out that she was in labor.there has been a couple of cases in the u.s cause of insurance reasons and the hospital got the hell sued out of them.shame on these ppl at the hospital as she could have spoken any language it wouldnt have mattered.they obviously knew she was in the last stages of pregnancy!!!

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  5. "Questioned about the alleged work stoppage at the center, he admitted that there is some suspension of activities in some of the units, but he emphasized that the union has been "very responsible" in closing only administrative offices and "by no means" denying (medical) care to the citizenry."

    And there it is. A UNION work stoppage. The truth buried at the very end of this article.

    Union leftists refused treatment to a pregnant woman. SHAME.

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  6. Us Mexican are just as bad or worse racist than ignorant Americans. This is some fucked up shit what this indigenous woman went though.

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  7. @11:19
    if you have to ask that question you know so little about Mexico

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  8. Who needs health care ? Ask yourself .

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  9. couldn't they give her a blanket?

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  10. "I love when Mexicans protest in the USA about being here illegal and free health care and education when Mexico treats immigrants and indigenous people a whole lot worse. They call us racist when truly they are just a bunch of hypocritical no good freeloaders."

    Your comment is idiotic.

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    1. Buffalo bill,show your face and you will find health benefits...--->--->--->

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  11. if the gates had been there,that woman would have been taken care of,like the Mexican independence,she would be dead and buried before the child was born and nobody would be yapping about it.by the way,if you work for the government,thank God for your good luck and get the fuck out as soon as possible,and good luck in your private practice,a strike sounds too much like treason against the people..

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  12. America was made of immigrants .

    just cause the white man bullied there way in back in the days the want to call it there land .
    one day the usa is going to hit shit and is going to suffer all the casualties and pain it has cost against other countries . hope ur asses could speak Russian and Chinese , bitches . I luv my country , hate my government .

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    1. You mean the United States of America was/is made of immigrants. AMERICA is a continent all the way from the North Pole to the South Pole, the United States is a country. I really believe that you need some geography classes.

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    2. Did you know that things are not what they seem to be?in all reality the world has been presented to us upside down and the north pole is in reality the south pole,and what passes for the south pole is
      really the north pole,check your charts...

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    3. Did you know that some owls aren't all that wise?

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    4. Wise asses are definitely wise,24/7

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  13. mexico says it has health care and education for everyone. rights do not extend to indigenous peoples, they are ignored and scorned, that is why they must self govern, self police, etc.

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    1. They have self government,but the caciques steal everything, as long as they deliver the votes and toe the company line,there is no accountability,if the rabble complain,they are determined to be insurgent communist socialist parasites in need of straightening by the gafes...

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  14. way to go Mexico, you must be so proud. (sarcasm)

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  15. I'm sure they will find a way to blame the USA. We are too generous.

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    1. @ 3:27pm

      Most retarded comment ever on BB.

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    2. Lol! I second that!

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    3. While we all love the American people,its government's fights against insurgencies, the help it provides to the Mexican government like weapons and military training for its sicarios rain blessings like this on the Mexican people and other poor people like this,I can only hope the USA wake up before it is too late,for there is certainly blame to spread around...

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    4. The American people are generous and do share,problem is somebody is sharing too much of the American people's,to the breaking point,and the conscience is hard to run away,when you get there you find out who the hell you really are,judas iscariote is my witness,hope I got his name right....

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    5. 3:27 the biggest help,like the mierda initiative,consist of weaponizing the Mexican robberment to keep on the satrapy,no feed for the chicken...

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  16. When the democrats ruin the health care system over here and the doctors are unionized, the same thing will happen.

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    1. Not all doctors are hungry wolves,many do try and help,even if it is after they tire of making all that money.problem is in Mexico the politicians never tire of stealing all the money,they are now stealing for the next twenty years,with the greatest impunity that can be expected from the big capitalist countries in cahoots with the"failing" banking "industries",nobody is against a free economy,with liberal libertarian policies,but the libertinism they award themselves in detriment of everybody else is the root cause of all evil in the world.please note that I am not an activist for either side,I am just an observer,very independent,I am just a witness of life in our times,you need what you need and take what you can,God help us ????!!!! oh,oh busy signal... @#$%&*!

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    2. I live in america and love my country and ppl just sick of what our gvt is doing.we need to throw the bums out of office and stop letting bankers run this country!!!

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    3. 4:47 when Asia gets all the American jobs you will be begging on your knees for obamacare,which is wrong on a few things like working with insurances,the government should own the hospitals and going there should be a free option,the government can pay the doctors better than the insurances,the only thing worse than socializing healthcare is privatizing it
      let's argue about it,not just condemn "obamacare".why was it good when mitt Romney implanted it in massachussets and now is it just not good?find the answer in your heart,think and argue

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  17. This what happened people let me splain it to you all when you go to the dpctor in mexico a lot of times they ask you for the money to pay for it if you do not have it they do not help you and this is fucking true

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    1. Hospitals directors steal all the money,the workers steal the supplies,the professionals have to make money on the side...in the us the professionals pass the bill,whatever it is, to the government,and want to keep it that way,they don't want to deal with the insurances'assholes,that is what is wrong with the whole picture,they think it is easier to shakedown the fucking government they despise so much...

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  18. The mexican government can say whatever they want to try to save face,like so many other countries, I am glad this came up like this to shame the fucking Mexican government,too busy hoarding all the money they steal from Mexico in their foreign banks.investing in Mexico?not!!!

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  19. Pinch pais de Mexico ni para ayudar la pobre gente sirve por eso se los esta llevando a la chingada. Lo que siembras sera lo que cosechas.

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    1. se les van a llegar un karma bien jodido por cierto! HP

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  20. the should decapitate the efing people that turn them away ! sad to see this

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  21. These hospital employees are not sorry they didn't provide adequate medical services to this indigenous woman, they are sorry they got caught. If nothing wrong happened in this incident, then why are they worried about disseminated in social media. This is probably a case of discrimination against this women due to her ethnicity. Knowing that they have indigenous people that live in the region, why aren't interpreters provided by hospitals were these communites are prevelant. These hospital workers should be fired immediately, hard to
    as union workers, and have their certifications revoked on ethical grounds. Witnesses even corroborated that this not the first time an incident like this happened. There seems to be a systemic pattern of discriminatory practices against indigenous woman, pregnant or otherwise in Jalapa de Diaz Hospital. Then again a systematic pattern of discrimination against indigenous people has existed in Mexico society as whole.

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    1. IDLE NO MORE:
      http://www.idlenomore.ca/

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    2. "that woman"didn't need their fucking help in the last instance,she did teach them a lesson they will not soon forget.and took the motherfucking government of Mexico to task too,that the world knows.blessed be thy name

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  22. I note the many explainations of why the hospital could not recognize and treat a common medical condition. None of the excuses justifies the negligence of 'trained' medical personnel. No matter how you slice it; it comes up 'peanuts'.

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  23. Thank you for posting this. I had heard about racism and exclusion of certain groups or dark skinned people in Mexico. I am connecting the dots of "why" bad things happen in such astounding numbers. I've noticed many dark skinned, young faces always being among the narco dead, I though it was due to lack of education and life choices, but I see it goes much deeper than that.

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    1. Yes bro,cut to the bone,observe and report,don't let"them"sweep it under the carpet,at least we have rotten places like BB to come and spew our venom,thanks BB!!

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  24. she could've been rich it it had happened in a US hospital!!!

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  25. I live here and there is no free medical for many. If you do not work and pay into social security, you do not have as much government insurance. So if you live on the street you only insurance have insurance popular. If you are an American in Mexico and cannot pat your way, you just might die. They will not wait for insurance payment from an insurance company in the USA. I know, because I had a heart attack and went through it. Medical insurance popular will not treat cancer, heart problems and major surgery do to illness. It is a terrible system.

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    1. and? don't go to Mexico,not without insurance,have your medicals before you go and be ready with the ransom,for there is no insurance against kidnapping or decapitation...by the way regional hospitals and health care centers are supposed to be free for the poor,an equipped well and properly staffed,but there is always some cocksucker trying to exact his pound of money,heads will roll I am sure if only for a while,to cover up for a while...

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  26. Dios mio !!!

    J-E-S-U-S !!!!

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  27. Hey --> October 7, 2013 at 10:40 AM <--, CALM DOWN !!

    Muchisimas gracias, Many thanks
    .

    ¿Are there Any Borderland Beat VISITORS h.e.r.e. right n.o.w. who Would Delight IN HELPING THAT 't.r.a.u.m.a.t.i.z.e.d. MOTHER / MOM R.E.C.O.V.E.R. from what 'SHE' HAS SUFFERED n.e.e.d.l.e.s.s.l.y??

    If enough of US chip in WE can send HER & her New Born enough pesos to assist in making their lives a bit easier

    s.p


    S'il Vous Plait, faite votre devoir, aidez au autres humains si possible

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    1. Sir, 10:40a.m. is not serious about what he is saying. He is just voicing his frustration at a gross injustice that was carried out against this woman and the, lest we ignore, newborn child she gave birth too. I'am American of Mexican ethnicity. Let me tell you something sir -- any warm blooded American that would've seen the condition that this woman was in would've assisted her in any form or fashion without hesitation. Maybe something as simple as taking their shirt off their back so that she could've used it as a blanket while she delivered her baby. Money or no money, there is no single hospital in the U.S.A. that would've denied her
      medical attention. We might have some indifferent corrupt political leaders/elite that could care less about their fellow citizens; however the American public is not those indifferent people.

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  28. @ 3:27pm
    Most retarded comment ever on BB.
    October 7, 2013 at 9:06 PM

    and if you liked that comment, you'll love this one ... soon after the ACA is fully implemented, look for yours, mine and everyone elses medical records to show up on Wikileaks ... also, look for a major push to unionize, doctors, nurses and staff ... the beginning of the end.

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  29. while everything seems to be going to hell in mexico pena nieto has been taking a nap since he was elected el president.Can someone wake that idiot up and tell him to at least try to do something,after all he is the president.Damn everyone knew things would get worse in mexico,but damn all seems to be spiraling ouf of control, guess the only thing to do is pray for the good people of mexico because don't seem like pena nieto will ever even lift one finger......

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  30. This is so wrong no matter how you look at this.. No woman should be treated this way regaldless of the racial background. This is a new low Mexico.

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  31. Mexico sucks ! Period !

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  32. CHIVIS,

    I JUST READ ON YAHOO.COM.MX THAT THEY ARE NOW CHARGING HER FOR SERVICES?????!!!!!!!! THIS IS SUCH A GROSS INJUSTICE.

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    1. Id send em a thank u note saying BITE MY ASS!!! lol

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    2. Dr. Adrian Rene Cruz Cabrera to woman: " sorry lady, there is no room at the inn". LOL! Karma will come for you, Dr.

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  33. @2:24: Several stories in Mexican news media have reported that the hospital is trying to collect fees from the couple as if they had received routine childbirth services. Irma's husband stated that they asked him to purchase certain supplies (soap, antiseptic, etc.), and tried to collect 1,500 pesos from him for the use of the hospital room where she theoretically gave birth. When he told them he had no money, the hospital discharged them at 8:00 p.m. that night, according to a video interview of the mother. By the way, the hospital also kept the 400 pesos worth of supplies and medications that the husband bought and paid for.

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  34. No disrespect for the women and her child. This is what the Obama care is going to look like..

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  35. Saludos,

    -> October 8, 2013 at 5:02 PM <-


    Yes but, ¿where are THE 'orders' coming from? Who gave the Hospital the Book Of Rules on 'Dealing With PATIENTS.' ?? = WHO IN THE HELL IS MAKING POLICY?!!


    ATT: The Pesos.Gram Guy, Salva

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  36. why do people get pregnant when they cannot afford a child? how could they think about having sex ??? SORRY, THERE ARE NO EXCUSES

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  37. No disrespect for the women and her child. This is what the Obama care is going to look like..
    October 8, 2013 at 6:23 PM

    Our nation is facing a hemorrhoid epidemic of biblical proportions.

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  38. I never comment but this time im gonna bcus that dumbass that called all mexicans freeloader is a fucking idiot.

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    1. That mofo has never taken on somebody bigger than he,needs to look down on others to feel good about himself,that a wacko...

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  39. Breaks my heart wish there was a way to get this lady baby clothes or anything she needs

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  40. One wonders if the incident isn't so much a reflection about Mexico's troubled health care system but also it's troubled attitude and continuing discrimination against poorer indigineous locals....

    One could only imagine the real horror had this woman actually come from the right part of town....

    http://scallywagandvagabond.com/2013/10/mexican-health-director-suspended-indigenous-woman-gives-birth-lawn/

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  41. and yet the white people who "settled" these lands (i.e. committed genocide to take them over) labeled the natives as the uncivilized race! truth is, the people who allow this to happen when the power is in their hands to disallow it are the uncivilized ones and we should be fighting like hell to remove the power from the hands of those who wield it against the people instead of for the good of the human race!!

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  42. If all the inigenous and poor (clearly the majority) agree with and want the US way of life and government, they need to support US annexation of Mexico and South America, execution of the gangs/their entire families/corrupt officials and return of all the hoity toity plundering immigrants back home to Spain. At least our indigenous people have casinos, etc. and all the benefits afforded a US citizen.

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  43. Does the baby survive?

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  44. A. Where was her husband or family members?
    B. Another reason so many Mexicans want to come to the USA
    C. The future of the USA under 0bamacare.

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  45. The ACA is only insurance reform, retards. "Obamacare" is not a healthcare plan. Why Americans think affordable health insurance that cannot exclude you because you were either born with something or have something, is beyond all comprehension.

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  46. October 14, 2013 at 12:47 PM you really need to do research

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  47. Salvador because he saved himself.

    "oh my God mom, I have to get out of here! This is inappropriate!"

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