Saturday, March 16, 2013

Knights Templar Leader "El Tio" "Reported" Killed

Borderland Beat

Note from Chivis:
Excelsior broke this story at noon Friday, Unofficially reporting of more than five people being killed, including soldiers and members of the armed group, revealed a federal government source to Excelsior newspaper.  Although the newspaper reported a 'leader' was killed, it did not name which leader of Knights Templar died though  some blogs are speculating it is Dionisio Plancarte aka el Tio from los Caballeros Templarios (Knights Templar) see photo below on left.  At this point it is conjecture by a couple of narco blogs, as it could very well be a lower level leader my sense is that it is more likely not him than is, but I wanted readers to know what the buzz is but present the information  with a big qualifier.  Noteworthy is none of the reliable regional media outlets or blogs in Michoacán are reporting the story, they have however reported two clashes in  Apatzingan that resulted in deaths.


EXCELSIOR
Morelia, Michoacán, March 15. - An alleged leader “jefe de la plaza” of the cartel group known as Knights Templar, died early Friday after clashing with elements of the Mexican Army in the vicinity of the Alcalde community in the municipality of Apatzingan , Michoacán .
The death toll could exceed 5 between soldiers and members of the armed group , a federal government source reported to  Excelsior.
According to police corporations, versions confirmed by state, a convoy of three military vehicles crossed gaps of Tierra Caliente around 2 in the morning and found themselves faced with armed civilians aboard SUV trucks. 
 
They were ordered to  disarm but far from obeying  the order of the soldiers they fired their weapons, thereby a shootout commenced.
 In the conflict  men were killed on both sides, so far the death toll has not been given.. Military forces made ​​a strong security operation in the area but have not given details on the facts.

39 comments:

  1. The only way a cartel leader should go...guns blazin.

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  2. Commander Diablo is a midget,honest look in forum.

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  3. Will they announce his death like chayos or will it be another blackout and only the citizens know what's going on..I tell you EPN Isnt making it easy to figure things out or getting facts....Intel.suggests that he did indeed get killed by military forces, and that it should.be pronounced to the people of Michoacan within the next four to.five.days...wether or.not the media.outlets pick.up.on it is anyone's guess..

    atte. ThinkTank 28.7 N.V.

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  4. Without these young bucks,the soldiers,you would have absolute chaos,think about it?How much worse would it be without them,yes,they may do"questionable"things,but without them?

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  5. Watch how people hate this dude. You can't dress up like Knights. You can't pretend you're good for the people. You're not a real cartel. Good Riddance to fake cartels they will say. Gimme Sinaloa any day they will tell each other while caressing a boggle doll of Chaputo.

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  6. Think Tank

    It is very difficult to get information, it is up to the Mexican society to place pressure on its elected officials, especially the state level, to reject this murky reporting EPN has initiated. It does nothing to wrap the activities of organized crime in a shroud of secrecy, in fact it does great harm.

    I am hoping that Michoacán will demonstrate their willingness to refute EPN and at least announce the truth, similar to what Sinaloa did when Fantasma was captured.

    As it is now we are reliant on reliable citizen groups and sources on the ground, and messages from narcos. I am very fortunate to have good sources in various areas, but I no longer have sources in Michoacán. If anyone can help with that please contact me, either email, I have a Mex and US email, or by comment which will be left for me if it is a personal message, or thru the BB email here on this page, that will get to me also. We really are anonymous and your information will be treated as such.

    Censorship is the best friend of those who wish to control and harm.....Paz, Chivis

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    1. Maybe the manner and means of reporting cartel news needs tweaking; just the facts and no glorification. Seems that some might argue that yellow journalism (sensationalism) just increases the problem as everyone fights for their fifteen minutes of fame in front of the camera.

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  7. i know us american may not like to hear this but, it looks like mexican police and military forces see more action on the regular and are most likely more experienced in firefights in adverse conditions, so if i were in charge of paying mexico's armed police and military. i'd start to pay them what they are worth so they dont need to entertain any illicit offers

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  8. people in mexico should start to do like the russians have started doing, get a dash mounted cam or some type of camera hidden in the grille or wherever, you people need them, so you can capture all the crazy shit that happens in public and out in the rural areas...

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  9. For all the people that think that el Tio is death, you have to be that ignorant to believe it. I'll give some reasons this is not true. Apatzingan is the home base of the Templarios, and they have a lot personal working in that area of Michoacan. There are a bunch of halcones and sicarios that work day and night in that area even the Michoacan state police and the municipal police work for them. Why would el tio be in that part of Michoacan with the things happening in la Ruana? Use logic, a lot marines, army, and federales.. No good to be in that area if you are a high rank for a cartel. Finally, do not believe everything you read without prove.

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    1. Ur stupid too and ignorant. let him die for killing innocents and kidnapping.

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  10. Como se a dicho antesLos caballeros templarios no se Rajan ante la amenaza de los enemigos sea quien sea aunque allá fallecido el tío se sigue rifando Al 100% en Tierra Caliente! adelante con la tuta!

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    1. Que pendejo eres. Its people like you that my country is a mess. I hate all these cartel cheerleaders. el pinche de la tuta es puro pedo.

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    2. @1:30pm - idiota.

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  11. my respect to el tio thats the way to answer any questions die fighting

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  12. If dead which is not true by the way it will be a big blow but his cousin el kike plancarte is one of the main leaders So there wont be no change unless he finds out that someone gave him up then,michoacan will turn too hell

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  13. I heard el Jt son just got whacked in culican aint hus pops gonna come home sonme maybe thats what lies ahead fir hum peace Loks. http://www.razon.com.mx/spip.php?article25381

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  14. My apologize I'm 3 years off sorry

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  15. He is not dead. Televisa runs the country pri strategy is to misimform and as so say they defeated the cartels next election. Cartels will lay low and be allowed to work. And please Stop mocking the Ct no one has michoacan under control that is not michoacan zetas sinaloa golfo triyed it and see how it worked out. They have massive power and the plastic helmets were gifts for kids to indoctrinate them to aspire to be templarios when they reach 13 and older. Use your mind before speaking. Michoacan para michoacan not for sinaloa or golf or zetas or Mexican govt. The real revolution will start in guerrero/michoacan.

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    1. This I believe -

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    2. The Zetas taught "El Chayo" how to organize. If not CT or La Familia would still be running bales of "mota" down the mountains on donkeys..LOL.... michoacanos are treacherous dogs that bite the hand that feeds them..Indios Analfabetos....

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    3. Cgingas a tu madre pemdejo. A Michoacan me lo respetas.

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  16. Guardia michoacan inside.michoacan is basically non functioning only.in their zones even there , their authority is not iron hand, its being.challenged on several.fronts,.evidence.of this.is the ongoing demolition.of el.chayo capillas across the strongholds, further evidence shows lfm /Zs gaining importance inside michoacan ..while knights keep.spreading out to.different regions with Tuta behind he push.to gain territories. if and when they show.us.el.tio is dead.the Guardia M is systematically and slowing disbanding in Michoacan
    atte. ThinkTank 28.7 N.V.

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  17. I hope cjng gets their hands on la tuta. they are hot for teacher.

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  18. On a different subject chivis Javier Torres was supposing release from prison today you think he will back to the Sinaloa cartel to support mayo and chapo or you think his drug dealing days are over ? Thks

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  19. @ Loks
    6:09
    I thought he was killed 6 mos ago? at least that was what mundo reported?

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  20. Hey readers there is a reader (see 5:54) that objects to my posting this story. and honestly I always feel on the fence about these unconfirmed stories. However in this case since Excelsior and Proceso both ran it I decided to post it with a huge disclaimer because honestly I felt if he was killed regional blogs and papers would have something and they did not.

    I do know there are reports of several shootouts and killings (see video for one) but even Excelsior does not name the leader, as I stated in my intro note. that was Mundo I believe that took that leap saying they were told exclusively.

    I was getting many emails asking for the story so I decided to post it. I wonder what you guys think? I don't post rumor unless there is a qualifier of some type, as in excelsior. In this case I gave you all the facts and have been checking back for updates and felt you would want to know what I know.

    or?

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  21. @5:30

    and how does one determine facts when the government decides what can be released to the public? Under Calderon administration at least there were confirmations and a degree of transparency.

    This is a new playing field and now we are without a comfort zone of verification. Nothing on federal websites and no word from government. SO the future begins now of cloudy reporting based on ground resources. That is not bad but no one has the luxury of stringers in every city that can provide verification and feed quality news.

    It is a new, frustrating censorship, we can only do our best.

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  22. Chivis someone of importance to CT has obviously perished under fire,this story is already made most sights so it was a good choice putting it up, this sights better than most cause at least you tell us if the story's bit fishy..

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  23. Que a toda madre! Muerte a todos los pinches perros extorsionadores, asesinos de mujeres y bebes! Ojala y que el ejercito los haga mierda a todos. Ya dejaron a Mexico lleno de huerfanos, hijos de su reperra madre. Sigues tu pinche Tuta culero!

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  24. @4:55- Vete a la verga pinche racista!

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  25. 4:19p.m. mira cabron.!ahora resulta que los ct tienen la culpa de todo el desmadre que es México la desigualdad y pobreza en su país la tiene los templarios. Usted lo sabé que los policías y militares son una bola de corruptos inéptos, desde el más arriba funcionario, hasta el más bajo municipal.Los templarios no más hacen el trabajó que ellos no puede, ó no quieren hacer. el ct no mas hace la limpieza social y ganarse el pan de cada dia Con mucho Honor y respeto!!! seguie el CT al frente con la tuta

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  26. Does anyone know who is Lucas within caballeros templarios? I just heard it was him and not el tio who has been killed...just another rumor so take it for what it is, I´m just trying to figure out if it makes any sense.

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  27. The guy in the big photo is Enrique Plancarte the one in the black and white photo that is small is El Tio
    Twister

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  28. Todos los narcos michoacanos son Indios Bestias!!!!! Que un teremoto destruya a el estado que se lo trage el mar....que se salve la gente inocente trabajadora..

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  29. if he was dead the news would have blown up

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